Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:34 am
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:52 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Fair enough I suppose although in theory if you play half the game with an extra man you should win. That said I can remember them sticking 11 behind the ball at CCS last season to earn a 0-0, so using the same logic that was a travesty for us.
If I have a concern its this lethargy which we sometimes start games with. It seems to strike without warning and I'm baffled why it happens as surely the players are wound up before taking the field.
Whatever it is the coaching staff need to address it and certainly we shouldn't be going to Rotherham looking for a 0-0 draw.
Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:03 am
Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:16 am
Lawnmower wrote:They had marginally the better of a dour first half, then the sending off changes the game completely.
I think selecting Noone over Pilks left us lightweight against a physical midfield on a narrow pitch and didn't help, but as in many games this season I was expecting us to get better in the 2nd half and go on to win.
After the sending off then we were always going to be on the back foot, but we defended well, restricting them to only 2-3 chances.
The og in the last minute of injury time was a killer.
However, they didn't 'murder' us at all.
Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:55 am
Bakedalasker wrote:Lawnmower wrote:They had marginally the better of a dour first half, then the sending off changes the game completely.
I think selecting Noone over Pilks left us lightweight against a physical midfield on a narrow pitch and didn't help, but as in many games this season I was expecting us to get better in the 2nd half and go on to win.
After the sending off then we were always going to be on the back foot, but we defended well, restricting them to only 2-3 chances.
The og in the last minute of injury time was a killer.
However, they didn't 'murder' us at all.
I thought Rotherham played the right tactics in the 2nd half against our 10. I thought our 10 were awesome against them in that half. Rotherham nudged it in the last 45 minutes and showed why they have been struggling to score. Fortunately for them they got the luck. Did they deserve it? Its a fine line on yes or no there.
Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:13 pm
Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:15 pm
Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:21 pm
Rydogsccfc wrote:He and his team were lucky.
Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:02 pm
Lawnmower wrote:They had marginally the better of a dour first half, then the sending off changes the game completely.
I think selecting Noone over Pilks left us lightweight against a physical midfield on a narrow pitch and didn't help, but as in many games this season I was expecting us to get better in the 2nd half and go on to win.
After the sending off then we were always going to be on the back foot, but we defended well, restricting them to only 2-3 chances.
The og in the last minute of injury time was a killer.
However, they didn't 'murder' us at all.
Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:03 pm
Lawnmower wrote:They had marginally the better of a dour first half, then the sending off changes the game completely.
I think selecting Noone over Pilks left us lightweight against a physical midfield on a narrow pitch and didn't help, but as in many games this season I was expecting us to get better in the 2nd half and go on to win.
After the sending off then we were always going to be on the back foot, but we defended well, restricting them to only 2-3 chances.
The og in the last minute of injury time was a killer.
However, they didn't 'murder' us at all.
Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:27 pm
buckleys brewery wrote:Lawnmower wrote:They had marginally the better of a dour first half, then the sending off changes the game completely.
I think selecting Noone over Pilks left us lightweight against a physical midfield on a narrow pitch and didn't help, but as in many games this season I was expecting us to get better in the 2nd half and go on to win.
After the sending off then we were always going to be on the back foot, but we defended well, restricting them to only 2-3 chances.
The og in the last minute of injury time was a killer.
However, they didn't 'murder' us at all.
Can you explain the physical midfield bit.
Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:37 pm
davids wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:He and his team were lucky.
They weren't lucky to be honest. Even before Marshall's sending off they were much the better team (although both teams were poor).
They were indeed fortunate to be awarded a penalty but in the second half I don't think we had one decent attempt on their goal. They on the other hand should have scored with a point blank header which went straight at Moore and then a fine shot which hit the post so overall we really can't say they were lucky.
Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:14 pm
Rydogsccfc wrote:davids wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:He and his team were lucky.
They weren't lucky to be honest. Even before Marshall's sending off they were much the better team (although both teams were poor).
They were indeed fortunate to be awarded a penalty but in the second half I don't think we had one decent attempt on their goal. They on the other hand should have scored with a point blank header which went straight at Moore and then a fine shot which hit the post so overall we really can't say they were lucky.
We were settling into the game then Marshall and the ref ruined it for us and we can't attack much with 10 men can we? and we conceded an unlucky OG by our tiring defence that had work much harder to make up for the one player.![]()
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:54 pm
davids wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:davids wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:He and his team were lucky.
They weren't lucky to be honest. Even before Marshall's sending off they were much the better team (although both teams were poor).
They were indeed fortunate to be awarded a penalty but in the second half I don't think we had one decent attempt on their goal. They on the other hand should have scored with a point blank header which went straight at Moore and then a fine shot which hit the post so overall we really can't say they were lucky.
We were settling into the game then Marshall and the ref ruined it for us and we can't attack much with 10 men can we? and we conceded an unlucky OG by our tiring defence that had work much harder to make up for the one player.![]()
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Settling into the game?Marshall didn't get sent off until virtually half time - how long does it take us to "settle into the game"?
I appreciate that it's tougher with ten men and that there was an element of luck about their winning goal but as mentioned previously we were non existent as an attacking force in the second half against a team who had the worst defensive record in the league and who had three extremely near misses before they forced an error by Connolly.
Of course it's impossible to know what would have happened if it was 11 v 11 for the whole game but the performance up to the dismissal of Marshall was nowhere near what it was against Hull and we were posing virtually no attacking threat at all.
Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:12 pm
Rydogsccfc wrote:davids wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:davids wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:He and his team were lucky.
They weren't lucky to be honest. Even before Marshall's sending off they were much the better team (although both teams were poor).
They were indeed fortunate to be awarded a penalty but in the second half I don't think we had one decent attempt on their goal. They on the other hand should have scored with a point blank header which went straight at Moore and then a fine shot which hit the post so overall we really can't say they were lucky.
We were settling into the game then Marshall and the ref ruined it for us and we can't attack much with 10 men can we? and we conceded an unlucky OG by our tiring defence that had work much harder to make up for the one player.![]()
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Settling into the game?Marshall didn't get sent off until virtually half time - how long does it take us to "settle into the game"?
I appreciate that it's tougher with ten men and that there was an element of luck about their winning goal but as mentioned previously we were non existent as an attacking force in the second half against a team who had the worst defensive record in the league and who had three extremely near misses before they forced an error by Connolly.
Of course it's impossible to know what would have happened if it was 11 v 11 for the whole game but the performance up to the dismissal of Marshall was nowhere near what it was against Hull and we were posing virtually no attacking threat at all.
Because Rotherham were always going to come at us for the majority of the first half because they are desperate for a result stats don't mean much in the championship anyone can beat anyone on the day. So we were just about to settle into the game then Marshall got sent off and had to sacrifice Mason For another keeper and wrongly been given a pen but luckily we got one ourselves and the second half was always going to be Rotherham's and our chance of 3 points was now ruined and our 10 tiring men making up for the one player conceded an unlucky OG we should just move on from now and look forward to Charlton and get a run going again.![]()
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:14 pm
davids wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:davids wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:davids wrote:Rydogsccfc wrote:He and his team were lucky.
They weren't lucky to be honest. Even before Marshall's sending off they were much the better team (although both teams were poor).
They were indeed fortunate to be awarded a penalty but in the second half I don't think we had one decent attempt on their goal. They on the other hand should have scored with a point blank header which went straight at Moore and then a fine shot which hit the post so overall we really can't say they were lucky.
We were settling into the game then Marshall and the ref ruined it for us and we can't attack much with 10 men can we? and we conceded an unlucky OG by our tiring defence that had work much harder to make up for the one player.![]()
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Settling into the game?Marshall didn't get sent off until virtually half time - how long does it take us to "settle into the game"?
I appreciate that it's tougher with ten men and that there was an element of luck about their winning goal but as mentioned previously we were non existent as an attacking force in the second half against a team who had the worst defensive record in the league and who had three extremely near misses before they forced an error by Connolly.
Of course it's impossible to know what would have happened if it was 11 v 11 for the whole game but the performance up to the dismissal of Marshall was nowhere near what it was against Hull and we were posing virtually no attacking threat at all.
Because Rotherham were always going to come at us for the majority of the first half because they are desperate for a result stats don't mean much in the championship anyone can beat anyone on the day. So we were just about to settle into the game then Marshall got sent off and had to sacrifice Mason For another keeper and wrongly been given a pen but luckily we got one ourselves and the second half was always going to be Rotherham's and our chance of 3 points was now ruined and our 10 tiring men making up for the one player conceded an unlucky OG we should just move on from now and look forward to Charlton and get a run going again.![]()
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:43 pm
Forever Blue wrote:" Anything less than a win would of been a Travesty "
Sunday 20th Sept 2015
Daily Star Rotherham
Steve Evans said after his bottom-placed team's first league success: "The win has been coming for me.
"I think if it would have been anything other than a win it would have been a travesty. We've been the best side by a million miles from the first minute.
"The referee has got the two big decisions right.
"We played some super football and played on the front foot and as Rotherham United under Steve Evans. That was more like us.
On Marshall's dismissal, Evans added: "You can't kick out. He's been a bit foolish and he'll be disappointed with that.
"I thought we were battering them at 11 versus 11. They showed no interest in going forward in the second half and were camped behind the ball.
"The question was in the second half could we get the goal that our momentum deserved? You think it's not going to be our day.
"I think we were fantastic. We beat a top side full of quality players. We gave them a bit of a hiding."
Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:27 am
Lawnmower wrote:buckleys brewery wrote:Lawnmower wrote:They had marginally the better of a dour first half, then the sending off changes the game completely.
I think selecting Noone over Pilks left us lightweight against a physical midfield on a narrow pitch and didn't help, but as in many games this season I was expecting us to get better in the 2nd half and go on to win.
After the sending off then we were always going to be on the back foot, but we defended well, restricting them to only 2-3 chances.
The og in the last minute of injury time was a killer.
However, they didn't 'murder' us at all.
Can you explain the physical midfield bit.
Yeah. They got stuck in and won most of the loose balls and 50/50 s.
Both No one and Whitts got bullied off the ball a few times.
KD was excellent though and Ralls had a go but we lost the fight in there, probably for the first time this season.
Pilkington isn't The Hulk, but he does stand his ground well and wins a fair share of ball.
Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:48 pm
buckleys brewery wrote:Lawnmower wrote:buckleys brewery wrote:Lawnmower wrote:They had marginally the better of a dour first half, then the sending off changes the game completely.
I think selecting Noone over Pilks left us lightweight against a physical midfield on a narrow pitch and didn't help, but as in many games this season I was expecting us to get better in the 2nd half and go on to win.
After the sending off then we were always going to be on the back foot, but we defended well, restricting them to only 2-3 chances.
The og in the last minute of injury time was a killer.
However, they didn't 'murder' us at all.
Can you explain the physical midfield bit.
Yeah. They got stuck in and won most of the loose balls and 50/50 s.
Both No one and Whitts got bullied off the ball a few times.
KD was excellent though and Ralls had a go but we lost the fight in there, probably for the first time this season.
Pilkington isn't The Hulk, but he does stand his ground well and wins a fair share of ball.
They didn't Get stuck in though, as we hardly had any possession of the ball. All I saw was their number 22 running the show, spraying the ball about with ease, and their 24 making runs past Whitts at will. You make it sound like they had 4 Roy Keane's in midfield. We obviously watched a different game.