' GUTTED WITH THE RESULT BUT DO WE NEED TO LEARN ? '

I felt I was very much in the minority on Saturday, especially with my assessment of our first half performance against Huddersfield, as I said then it weren't the most attractive football but it was a patient and effective display.

Tonight City played with energy, drive and a purpose to their play, which is what many fans and pundits were calling to see but how many clear cut chances did we create ?

On Saturday in that first half I can recall two clear chances but tonight I don't recall anything in the whole match except a header by Ameobi near the end that posed very little threat to Alan McGregor in the Hull goal.

Of course I want to see more of the type of play that gets you out of your seat but not to the detriment of the result.

I, and I am sure most would agree, would rather have come away tonight without losing and witnessing a display akin to that of Saturday's performance than losing and being credited with a better display but no real chances created.

I am not taking anything away from the effort by the players tonight or from the tactics of Rusell Slade but as fans, collectively do we need to be more patient with the transition ?

Carl we will play worse and win, that's football!

Carl we will play worse and win, that's football!

Definitely Roger, as I said I am all for entertainment in our style of play but sometimes is it a case of be careful what you wish for ?

Did we expose ourselves defensively in search of trying to get on top ?

Losing while playing good football is the start of something.

Losing while playing good football is the start of something.

Winning and playing poorly may be better ?

Carl, that was our problem, we created nothing? and yet played superb.

Great report Carl. Good to see you again tonight

It's even more dussapointing when you play well and lose than play terrible and lose, if that makes sense.

We were unlucky tonight though, and we need to get back to winning ways on Saturday or we may get caught in a bad run of form. We need to create more chances than we did tonight, like you say.

It's still very early days.

Losing while playing good football is the start of something.

Winning and playing poorly may be better ?

I don't think that's right way long term but Winning and playing good football is and is looking like Slade is doing that Rome wasn't built in a day.

Hull are no Huddersfield. If we played badly against them we would have been hammered. We gave it our best shot, but they were too physical and dominant at the back and they had the luck. The problem is we have to keep improving as there will be better teams than hull in this division.

Hull are no Huddersfield. If we played badly against them we would have been hammered. We gave it our best shot, but they were too physical and dominant at the back and they had the luck. The problem is we have to keep improving as there will be better teams than hull in this division.

Good point made.

But I don't think we played as bad as people thought on Saturday though.

Tonight was a better midfield performance in particular.

Losing while playing good football is the start of something.

Winning and playing poorly may be better ? [/quote

Get promoted playing poorly would be fine with me, but this ref and linesman who have only ever reffed in the lower leagues, and have never reffed in the championship, gave us nothing tonight at least two blatant stonewall penalties

Hull are no Huddersfield. If we played badly against them we would have been hammered. We gave it our best shot, but they were too physical and dominant at the back and they had the luck. The problem is we have to keep improving as there will be better teams than hull in this division.

Good point made.

But I don't think we played as bad as people thought on Saturday though.

Tonight was a better midfield performance in particular.

I agree, I don't think we were that bad on Saturday, just sometimes you get dragged down to the level of the opposition. Some of our passing tonight was sublime. One touch, flicks and some real understanding of each other's movement. I can't remember seeing this at all last season. Unfortunately tonight we just couldn't find that killer ball, but have we seen the seeds of something?

Don't think anyone has said we played bad on Saturdat Carl it was just fooking boring to watch.

We had no one able to make runs and turn their defence maybe a Frazier Campbell type player and what on earth do we do on the training ground practice musical statues? Every corner we took was too easy for hull to defend. Sorry I was not really impressed.

We have no actual striker to play off the shoulder of the defender and get in behind them!

We need to be more direct and create, we had little width and whitts and digackoi where in the same place too many times! We were excellent in possession but no cutting edge in the final 3rd. Too many times mason and jones had to come way back to receive the ball!

On a plus side, digackoi is getting much fitter, Fabio was possessed!!! He just has a will to succeed and just wants to play and do well! Clear man of the match last night! "No wonder there's no medium shirts left in the shop, Fabio used about 4 of them"

Hard work but no end product last night, we didn't really have a clear cut opportunity!

Thought it was a good performance and our players could'nt be faulted for the effort they put in. I also thought Hull played the perfect away game, well organised defence and dangerous where it counted. Still think we are lacking a bit of pace and creativity, but on another day we may have got something out of a game like this. Hopefully the improvement will continue at Rotherham, and a win there will keep us on track.

Carl usually agree like your posts but that's a shocker! One difference tonight we played hull not Huddersfield, they had quality throughout two real premiership centre backs and were totally organised and we couldn't break them down. It's not a case of being careful what you wish for. Saturday we played in second gear occasionally 3 and got the job done. Had we played at Saturday's tempo again at Hull they would have destroyed us.

Last night city surprised me, I knew we were more organised and playing better but last night showed we can definitely play and against other teams that level of performance would see a win 9 times out of 10. The critics can say we lack this or that and I agree with them, but we are a work in progress and will only improve.

Well done Cardiff City, the future is bright not back ten years which was being thrown about last season. Also add Ralls and Fabio two touch football was a joy to watch

I felt I was very much in the minority on Saturday, especially with my assessment of our first half performance against Huddersfield, as I said then it weren't the most attractive football but it was a patient and effective display.

Tonight City played with energy, drive and a purpose to their play, which is what many fans and pundits were calling to see but how many clear cut chances did we create ?

On Saturday in that first half I can recall two clear chances but tonight I don't recall anything in the whole match except a header by Ameobi near the end that posed very little threat to Alan McGregor in the Hull goal.

Of course I want to see more of the type of play that gets you out of your seat but not to the detriment of the result.

I, and I am sure most would agree, would rather have come away tonight without losing and witnessing a display akin to that of Saturday's performance than losing and being credited with a better display but no real chances created.

I am not taking anything away from the effort by the players tonight or from the tactics of Rusell Slade but as fans, collectively do we need to be more patient with the transition ?

If we play with the pace and intensity of last night against Rotherham on Saturday, I think we will win comfortably! Just need to carve out a few more clear cut chances.

Hull are a team that know how to defend, which is what you would expect from a team managed by Steve Bruce. They deployed 3 big centre backs to counter the threat of Kenwynne Jones and they were able to absorb our attacking pressure all night. We didn't seem to react tactically to this until after an hour had passed when Ameobi was introduced. Then his running with pace and skillful ball control gave them something else to try and deal with and it was at this point that we looked most dangerous. I just wish we had reacted to their tactics earlier. Bruce set up to counter the long ball, so we should have tried to get in behind them more but sadly we were lacking the pace and width required.
Having said all that it was a far more enjoyable game to watch than Saturday's game, bar the result itself.

Steve Bruce had his tactics spot on.

Just watched the game on the City Player and it has to be said Hull were superb defensively, and as others have said Bruce got his tactics spot on. They were tough to break down and looked dangerous on the break. Whilst we might see better teams across the season at the CCS i'd be surprised if we see as solid a defensive performance as that again this season.

Still think if we'd had just got one break, had the ref given one of those penalties for example, then it may well have been a different game, equally if we hadn't conceded a sloppy goal early doors it may have been very different. As it was it wa just one of those games unfortunately.

Plenty to be positive about at the moment though even in the face of our first defeat of the season. Credit to Slade and the boys for turning the club back in the right direction.

"No wonder there's no medium shirts left in the shop, Fabio used about 4 of them"

Slade must've known they'd play three at the back, but there was no change in personnel or tactics, which is worrying. Ameobi and possibly Noone should 've started. It doesn't bode well for any matches v better sides.

Slade must've known they'd play three at the back, but there was no change in personnel or tactics, which is worrying. Ameobi and possibly Noone should 've started. It doesn't bode well for any matches v better sides.

I don't see why Slade "must've known" as they have not been playing 3 at the back this season so far - however I do agree that he should have reacted much quicker and made a change in personnel/formation/tactics to react to the way they set up.

Slade made a big error playing the same team and style v Hull.

He had to adapt to the opposition who have a manager who is so far ahead of our incompetent it is not true.

Hull had 7-8 players who were much better than City's players.

It just showed that City were 2nd due to the quality of the first 6 clubs they played more than anything.

Until Slade goes and we have a manager who knows how his onions, and gets in players with pace and a goal scorer (Mason is terrible), City will probably beat the lesser clubs and lose to the better ones ie City are a mid table outfit at the moment.

[quote="Danny Says"]Slade made a big error playing the same team and style v Hull.

He had to adapt to the opposition who have a manager who is so far ahead of our incompetent it is not true.

Hull had 7-8 players who were much better than City's players.

It just showed that City were 2nd due to the quality of the first 6 clubs they played more than anything.

Until Slade goes and we have a manager who knows how his onions, and gets in players with pace and a goal scorer (Mason is terrible), City will probably beat the lesser clubs and lose to the better ones ie City are a mid table outfit at the moment.

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No slade fan but doing a great job and the fact he has the boys playing like they did last night is a credit, am no mason fan either but things take time.

Slade made a big error playing the same team and style v Hull.

He had to adapt to the opposition who have a manager who is so far ahead of our incompetent it is not true.

Hull had 7-8 players who were much better than City's players.

It just showed that City were 2nd due to the quality of the first 6 clubs they played more than anything.

Until Slade goes and we have a manager who knows how his onions, and gets in players with pace and a goal scorer (Mason is terrible), City will probably beat the lesser clubs and lose to the better ones ie City are a mid table outfit at the moment.

What bollocks! so you change side every game we play to suite opposition? What happened to continuity? And you imply 1st six sides were easy mmmm we know your agenda regarding Slade and as of now its not in tune with most other fans opinion.