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Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:45 pm

CARDIFF CITY TO SHIP OUT SEMI AJAYI
Cardiff City to ship out Semi Ajayi
Semi Ajayi

Wednesday Sep 09, 2015.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=162615 :ayatollah:

Former Nigeria youth international Semilore Ajayi, who joined Cardiff City from Arsenal August, may be sent out on loan to gain more experience, City boss Russell Slade has disclosed.

Cardiff City have 11 players out on loan and Ajayi may join this list soon.

"I have watched Semi in a couple of matches and he's done really well. I'd like him to play league matches,” said Slade.

"We allowed Rhys Healy to join Dundee FC to gain experience and it may be that Matty and Semi will benefit from similar opportunities."

The towering 21-year-old defender was part of the Nigeria U20 squad ahead of the 2013 FIFA U20 World Cup in Turkey.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY TO SHIP OUT NEW SIGNING '

Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:57 pm

I can sort of understand letting Ajayi go out on loan, as long as there is a recall option. Would give him some match experience.

But Kennedy shouldn't, he should be near the first team now. Did well when he played last season.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY TO SHIP OUT NEW SIGNING '

Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:23 pm

I wonder what the record is for most players out on loan at any one time?

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY TO SHIP OUT NEW SIGNING '

Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:49 pm

T1JMO wrote:I wonder what the record is for most players out on loan at any one time?


Read somewhere this morning that Chelsea have 33 players currently out on loan!

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY TO SHIP OUT NEW SIGNING '

Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:53 pm

LlwyncelynBlue wrote:
T1JMO wrote:I wonder what the record is for most players out on loan at any one time?


Read somewhere this morning that Chelsea have 33 players currently out on loan!

:shock:

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY TO SHIP OUT NEW SIGNING '

Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:39 pm

Wednesday Sep 09, 2015. 12:29
Former Nigeria youth international Semilore Ajayi, who joined Cardiff City from Arsenal, may be sent out on loan to gain more experience, City boss Russell Slade has disclosed.

Cardiff City have 11 players out on loan and Ajayi may join this list soon.

"I have watched Semi in a couple of matches and he's done really well. I'd like him to play league matches,” said Slade.

"We allowed Rhys Healy to join Dundee FC to gain experience and it may be that Matty and Semi will benefit from similar opportunities."

The towering 21-year-old defender was part of the Nigeria U20 squad ahead of the 2013 FIFA U20 World Cup in Turkey.

He has played for Charlton Athletic.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY TO SHIP OUT NEW SIGNING '

Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:53 pm

I cant understand kennedy going out on loan!

He should be around the starting line up

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY TO SHIP OUT NEW SIGNING '

Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:51 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
LlwyncelynBlue wrote:
T1JMO wrote:I wonder what the record is for most players out on loan at any one time?


Read somewhere this morning that Chelsea have 33 players currently out on loan!

:shock:


Found it:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34125476

From the same article, Juventus have 58 players out on loan. Farcical.

Premier League: Is the loan system being abused by clubs?

By Alistair Magowan
BBC Sport
While the mind boggled at a record £870m Premier League spend during the summer transfer window, another statistic caught the eye from a club that was relatively prudent.
Chelsea's net outlay amounted to £38m - the fourth-highest in the Premier League - but Nathaniel Chalobah's move to Napoli took the number of Blues players out on loan to 33.
The club are not breaking any rules, and it is a pattern repeated across Europe, with Juventus reportedly owning an additional 58 players not in their first-team squad.
Chelsea's tally could rise even further with the emergency loan window - which opens on Wednesday - giving Football League clubs the chance to sign players for between 28 and 93 days.
Clubs can only register a squad of 25 players for the Premier League - and some have been accused of "abusing" the system by stockpiling talent to the detriment of rivals and the players themselves.
So why does a club recruit players in this way and what are the consequences?
What's the motive?

Clubs might not like this analogy, but it can help to think of players in terms of property belonging to a landlord.
If you can afford to own 58 players rather than 25 and no-one is stopping you farming them out, it might make financial sense to do so, especially as big clubs aim to comply with Uefa's Financial Fair Play rules which cap spending in relation to income.
The hope is such players will improve and eventually reach the first team, as Chelsea goalkeeper Thibaut Courtois did. He was bought for £5m from Genk in 2011, sent on loan to Atletico Madrid for three seasons, and broke into the Chelsea side last season.
Even if they don't, the club may hope that a player's value will increase as he matures. Chelsea sent Romelu Lukaku on loan to West Brom and Everton before making a £10m profit on him when he was sold to the Toffees in 2014.
Best of all for the club bean-counters is the fact the loan club will usually pick up the tab for the player's wages.
Thibaut Courtois
Thibaut Courtois: A good example of how the loan system can benefit a player's development
"We don't send players out because we are trying to recover money, we send them because we want them to play and develop," Chelsea technical director Michael Emenalo has said.
"We felt it is better for players at 18-21 to go on loan somewhere where they get visibility and good competition."
Former Tottenham and Liverpool director of football Damien Comolli also believes clubs have players' best interests at heart, giving them the opportunity to play at a higher level than the current under-21 league, which has drawn criticism for its lack of competitiveness.
Comolli told BBC Sport: "I think Chelsea act in good faith, that they are concerned with the progress of young players. The number of players on loan is amazing, but for me there is no foul play."
Is the system fair?

Chelsea are not the only club to loan players out in this manner, but with great wealth at their disposal, they are certainly more efficient than other Premier League clubs.
Manchester City enjoy similar financial backing to the west London team, yet despite spending a record £160m in this window, they have 14 players on loan, including two who have agreed permanent deals for next season.
Liverpool have 15 players on loan, while Arsenal weigh in with 12, having extended Carl Jenkinson's contract before loaning him back to West Ham for another season. Manchester United only have six players being paid elsewhere this season.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY TO SHIP OUT NEW SIGNING '

Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:02 pm

boxerbob wrote:I cant understand kennedy going out on loan!

He should be around the starting line up


Very strange decision, Kennedy was possible our best player in the second half of last season.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY TO SHIP OUT NEW SIGNING '

Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:00 pm

Don't let them rot in the reserves if you wont play them so loan them out. :thumbright: :sladein: :ayatollah:

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY TO SHIP OUT NEW SIGNING '

Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:00 pm

Maybe Slade thinks he's another Kennedy since he dyed his hair!

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY TO SHIP OUT NEW SIGNING '

Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:06 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
LlwyncelynBlue wrote:
T1JMO wrote:I wonder what the record is for most players out on loan at any one time?


Read somewhere this morning that Chelsea have 33 players currently out on loan!

:shock:


At one point last season Man City had more than 50 out on loan!

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY TO SHIP OUT NEW SIGNING '

Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:11 pm

Money off the wage bill.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY TO SHIP OUT NEW SIGNING '

Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:48 am

Cardiff City to ship out Ajayi

Posted By: Our Reporteron: September 10, 2015

Cardiff City to ship out Ajayi

Former Nigeria youth international Semilore Ajayi, who joined Cardiff City from Arsenal, may be sent out on loan to gain more experience, City boss Russell Slade has disclosed.

Cardiff City have 11 players out on loan and Ajayi may join this list soon.

“I have watched Semi in a couple of matches and he’s done really well. I’d like him to play league matches,” said Slade.

“We allowed Rhys Healy to join Dundee FC to gain experience and it may be that Matty and Semi will benefit from similar opportunities.”

The towering 21-year-old defender was part of the Nigeria U20 squad ahead of the 2013 FIFA U20 World Cup in Turkey.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY TO SHIP OUT NEW SIGNING '

Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:40 am

so who are the 11 that are currently out on loan and where have they gone?

kiss
Velikonja
Healey
Tutonda
Oshilaja
le fondre
adeymi
doyle


who are the other 3?

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY TO SHIP OUT NEW SIGNING '

Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:53 pm

[quote="paulh_85"]so who are the 11 that are currently out on loan and where have they gone?

kiss
Velikonja
Healey
Tutonda
Oshilaja
le fondre
adeymi
doyle


who are the other 3?[/quote

There are 14 altogether counting the acadamy players.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... t-10005574

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY TO SHIP OUT NEW SIGNING '

Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:42 pm

Kennedy on loan is a strange 1, but with Noone coming back into form (hopefully) and putting pressure on Ralls and Pilkington and Ameobi who can play there that could make him 5th choice?