' It's our fans that's clueless (part1) '

It's some of our fans that's clueless not Russell slade
Yes some of our fans are still labelling slade clueless .
Surely it can't still be becouse he's tans man
And it defo can't be about the style of play anymore
Anyone who as watched (live) our pre season and three competitive games this season ,must be able to see the improvement he is getting from our players .
A question to those still calling him clueless do you take into consideration the opposition and wether we are home or away or do you think it makes no difference
Look at q.p.r. Away on Saturday
He set us up to defend from the front play football from the back and to keep possession
This worked well as we had 62% possession and we won the ball back very quickly when we lost it
Unfortunately for slade (not his fault) silly mistake by peltier giving needless corner away and Morrison not marking his man from the corner gave them the first goal against the run of play
Then two hand balls by them went unnoticed by the very inept referee gave them a second undeserved goal
Some one said in another thread the players on our bench were the best bench in the championship ,this I agree with ,as it had a two fold look about it ,the right players as cover for injuries ,but also the right amount of game changers ,and slade used it perfectly to get us a well deserved point ,that Could so easily been three
And all but for moores mistake against Fulham ,we could be sitting up there on 4/6 points not 2

Part two I will give my opinion on our starting 11 and and my reasons why slade has got it right And why the subs are more effective as subs and not starters

Your being much too positive, and I definitely agree with every word.

We could have had 4 or 6 points, but supporters of many teams will be saying "what if" in the same way as us. QPR fans will probably be saying what if they had'nt missed an absolute sitter just before we equalised. It will happen in every close game we have throughout the season, we will always say that if only we had'nt missed an open goal, or if the ref had spotted the push on the goalkeeper before the opposition scored etc. The only thing that counts is the scoreline, and if it was'nt for two contenders for goal of the month, we could be on nil points in the same way that we could be on six points. I thought we would take 5 points from our first 5 games by beating Fulham and drawing with QPR & Blackburn. I'm still hoping we can get to that total, but I think we will do well do get anything from Wolves or Forest matches. Definitely improving on last season, and I don't see us having any problems with staying well clear of the relegation fight.

Great points made there, Steve!

I am encouraged by the improvement to the team since March! We definitely seem to be better at keeping possession and our fitness looks to be much improved, as demonstrated with us scoring last minute goals in our two league games to date.

However, I do still have question marks about Slade's team selection and tactics. In my opinion Revel should not be starting and Ralls should not be out wide. I am also concerned that we only ever play 4 4 2 and there is no flexibility.

Despite this Slade is operating under difficult circumstances and while it is still very early days I am becoming more positive. For me we still need to see where we are after 10 games to really judge him though.

Great points made there, Steve!

Which Steve?

Good post by the OP,problem is he's appealing to knuckleheads who rarely give any thought before opening their gob.f**k me it must have taken ages for them to learn the line "Slade is clueless"and now you want to tell them different.

The Fulham and qpr game I enjoyed watching we played football and were the better team on both occasions

If it weren't for little mistakes we would of taken all points , moore gifted Fulham a goal and what was Peilter doing giving away that corner

Little mistakes but we really are improving cut the mistakes and we can be a solid team challenging for top 6

Slade is doing fine

Instead of calling people "clueless" try to understand that this forum is all about opinions, some you will agree with, others you wont

Instead of calling people "clueless" try to understand that this forum is all about opinions, some you will agree with, others you wont

Agreed!

Instead of calling people "clueless" try to understand that this forum is all about opinions, some you will agree with, others you wont

It's aimed at those who are still calling slade clueless

I am encouraged by the improvement to the team since March! We definitely seem to be better at keeping possession and our fitness looks to be much improved, as demonstrated with us scoring last minute goals in our two league games to date.

However, I do still have question marks about Slade's team selection and tactics. In my opinion Revel should not be starting and Ralls should not be out wide. I am also concerned that we only ever play 4 4 2 and there is no flexibility.

Despite this Slade is operating under difficult circumstances and while it is still very early days I am becoming more positive. For me we still need to see where we are after 10 games to really judge him though.

Jimbo ralls has a free role IMO having watched every game so far
See part two for my opinion of revell and the others

Instead of calling people "clueless" try to understand that this forum is all about opinions, some you will agree with, others you wont

It's aimed at those who are still calling slade clueless

And why in your opinion, people should not be able to call Slade "clueless" if that's their opinion, which I'm sure you think their entitled to

Great points made there, Steve!

Which Steve?

It was meant for 'troobloo' Steve TBH, but I agree with much of your post too!

Instead of calling people "clueless" try to understand that this forum is all about opinions, some you will agree with, others you wont

It's aimed at those who are still calling slade clueless

And why in your opinion, people should not be able to call Slade "clueless" if that's their opinion, which I'm sure you think their entitled to

But it started way back last season ,and is continuing now ,and the improvement in our play is there for all to see
Or are they just sticking to there same old comments becouse he's tans man ,

Instead of calling people "clueless" try to understand that this forum is all about opinions, some you will agree with, others you wont

It's aimed at those who are still calling slade clueless

And why in your opinion, people should not be able to call Slade "clueless" if that's their opinion, which I'm sure you think their entitled to

But it started way back last season ,and is continuing now ,and the improvement in our play is there for all to see
Or are they just sticking to there same old comments becouse he's tans man ,

Some people see things differently Steve; that's just the way of the world. The thing to do to win them over is critique them, not abuse them

Steve, you say the mistake from Peltier wasn't Slade's fault? In a way it wasn't, but he can take some blame. He should be coaching all our players on concentration and passing accuracy. If he'd have done that properly, there wouldn't have been an issue.

In both our league games it has taken us to go a goal down before we start attacking their goal properly. Why not from the start? And why are our best players left on the bench until the last half an hour?

He's got lucky in the first two league games with two very good late goals to give us a draw. Sooner or later he's going to have to show that his team can take the lead, retain the lead and build on the lead. Is he capable? I'm not sure.

I expect us to win tomorrow night, Blackburn have start poorly and their heads will be down. Let's hope Slade can manage that, and then he has to build on it.

Instead of calling people "clueless" try to understand that this forum is all about opinions, some you will agree with, others you wont

It's aimed at those who are still calling slade clueless

And why in your opinion, people should not be able to call Slade "clueless" if that's their opinion, which I'm sure you think their entitled to

But it started way back last season ,and is continuing now ,and the improvement in our play is there for all to see
Or are they just sticking to there same old comments becouse he's tans man ,

At the end of the day its their opinion, which their entitled to,I hope we are all adult enough on here to disagree with some opinions without resulting to name calling

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and if it does not fall into line with ones thinking it does not make them 'clueless'.

It's all based on observations. Noone had 12/13 minutes against Fulham and scored a wonder goal, he then scored a goal against Wimbledon and appeared to be our most potent threat. So what does Slade do for the next match, ignore him!.

Ravel who had a shocker against Fulham was picked again to lead the attack, why not start with Jones for the first 60 minutes and then bring Doyle on for the last 30? I can only recall Ravell heading the ball once against QPR and he did little else. How can those performances justify selection when you have Jones, Doyle and Ameobi on the bench! That is bizarre and that's why some fans may think that Slade is clueless.

He has a habit of ignoring players in form. How many other managers do that?

Well over 700 games and won nothing. Clueless part two

Well over 700 games and won nothing. Clueless part two

Who woke you up

Instead of calling people "clueless" try to understand that this forum is all about opinions, some you will agree with, others you wont

It's aimed at those who are still calling slade clueless

And why in your opinion, people should not be able to call Slade "clueless" if that's their opinion, which I'm sure you think their entitled to

But it started way back last season ,and is continuing now ,and the improvement in our play is there for all to see
Or are they just sticking to there same old comments becouse he's tans man ,

Some people see things differently Steve; that's just the way of the world. The thing to do to win them over is critique them, not abuse them

I'm not abusing anyone
Or are you saying using the would clueless is abuse
If so why are some of fans abusing our manager

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and if it does not fall into line with ones thinking it does not make them 'clueless'.

It's all based on observations. Noone had 12/13 minutes against Fulham and scored a wonder goal, he then scored a goal against Wimbledon and appeared to be our most potent threat. So what does Slade do for the next match, ignore him!.

Ravel who had a shocker against Fulham was picked again to lead the attack, why not start with Jones for the first 60 minutes and then bring Doyle on for the last 30? I can only recall Ravell heading the ball once against QPR and he did little else. How can those performances justify selection when you have Jones, Doyle and Ameobi on the bench! That is bizarre and that's why some fans may think that Slade is clueless.

He has a habit of ignoring players in form. How many other managers do that?

But noone started so many games last season and was not very good see part 2 for why noone IMO opinion is being picked correctly on the bench

Instead of calling people "clueless" try to understand that this forum is all about opinions, some you will agree with, others you wont

It's aimed at those who are still calling slade clueless

And why in your opinion, people should not be able to call Slade "clueless" if that's their opinion, which I'm sure you think their entitled to

But it started way back last season ,and is continuing now ,and the improvement in our play is there for all to see
Or are they just sticking to there same old comments becouse he's tans man ,

Some people see things differently Steve; that's just the way of the world. The thing to do to win them over is critique them, not abuse them

I'm not abusing anyone
Or are you saying using the would clueless is abuse
If so why are some of fans abusing our manager

"Clueless" not good Steve! In the interests of harmony and maintaining good relations "Mistaken" would have been a better choice

It's some of our fans that's clueless not Russell slade
Yes some of our fans are still labelling slade clueless .
Surely it can't still be becouse he's tans man
And it defo can't be about the style of play anymore
Anyone who as watched (live) our pre season and three competitive games this season ,must be able to see the improvement he is getting from our players .
A question to those still calling him clueless do you take into consideration the opposition and wether we are home or away or do you think it makes no difference
Look at q.p.r. Away on Saturday
He set us up to defend from the front play football from the back and to keep possession
This worked well as we had 62% possession and we won the ball back very quickly when we lost it
Unfortunately for slade (not his fault) silly mistake by peltier giving needless corner away and Morrison not marking his man from the corner gave them the first goal against the run of play
Then two hand balls by them went unnoticed by the very inept referee gave them a second undeserved goal
Some one said in another thread the players on our bench were the best bench in the championship ,this I agree with ,as it had a two fold look about it ,the right players as cover for injuries ,but also the right amount of game changers ,and slade used it perfectly to get us a well deserved point ,that Could so easily been three
And all but for moores mistake against Fulham ,we could be sitting up there on 4/6 points not 2

Part two I will give my opinion on our starting 11 and and my reasons why slade has got it right And why the subs are more effective as subs and not starters

Just because someone has a different opinion to you does'nt mean they are clueless. Unless I am mistaken, we have 2 points from a possible 6, and managed to beat a side from the bottom division by a single goal. While I agree there is an improvement from last season (we could have hardly got worse), it's a results game and we are not exactly setting the world alight so far. May have been better to have posted this after 10 or so games, because if our results don't improve and we are in the bottom half of the table, it may not be the many fans who have slated Slade who will be looking clueless.

Instead of calling people "clueless" try to understand that this forum is all about opinions, some you will agree with, others you wont

It's aimed at those who are still calling slade clueless

And why in your opinion, people should not be able to call Slade "clueless" if that's their opinion, which I'm sure you think their entitled to

But it started way back last season ,and is continuing now ,and the improvement in our play is there for all to see
Or are they just sticking to there same old comments becouse he's tans man ,

Some people see things differently Steve; that's just the way of the world. The thing to do to win them over is critique them, not abuse them

I'm not abusing anyone
Or are you saying using the would clueless is abuse
If so why are some of fans abusing our manager

"Clueless" not good Steve! In the interests of harmony and maintaining good relations "Mistaken" would have been a better choice

The last time I got on my high horse was over ruddy gestede and we all know how that has ended up

Instead of calling people "clueless" try to understand that this forum is all about opinions, some you will agree with, others you wont

It's aimed at those who are still calling slade clueless

And why in your opinion, people should not be able to call Slade "clueless" if that's their opinion, which I'm sure you think their entitled to

But it started way back last season ,and is continuing now ,and the improvement in our play is there for all to see
Or are they just sticking to there same old comments becouse he's tans man ,

Some people see things differently Steve; that's just the way of the world. The thing to do to win them over is critique them, not abuse them

I'm not abusing anyone
Or are you saying using the would clueless is abuse
If so why are some of fans abusing our manager

"Clueless" not good Steve! In the interests of harmony and maintaining good relations "Mistaken" would have been a better choice

The last time I got on my high horse was over ruddy gestede and we all know how that has ended up

Good point Steve! Some of us are embarrassed, including yours truly That ruddy Gestede!

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and if it does not fall into line with ones thinking it does not make them 'clueless'.

It's all based on observations. Noone had 12/13 minutes against Fulham and scored a wonder goal, he then scored a goal against Wimbledon and appeared to be our most potent threat. So what does Slade do for the next match, ignore him!.

Ravel who had a shocker against Fulham was picked again to lead the attack, why not start with Jones for the first 60 minutes and then bring Doyle on for the last 30? I can only recall Ravell heading the ball once against QPR and he did little else. How can those performances justify selection when you have Jones, Doyle and Ameobi on the bench! That is bizarre and that's why some fans may think that Slade is clueless.

He has a habit of ignoring players in form. How many other managers do that?

But noone started so many games last season and was not very good see part 2 for why noone IMO opinion is being picked correctly on the bench

That was last season. We are talking present time. If a player is in form then surely they need to be picked. It's not rocket science. I can understand the thinking with away games but for home games we should carry more threat in the middle of the park. Whitts and Ralls are the same type of player and Ralls is certainly not a wide man but he is being played in that position. We have Noone, Ameobi, and Kennedy who carry an attacking threat but none of them are being used. Kennedy was outstanding last season and he cannot even get in the squad.We are too slow and predictable with Whitts & Ralls together with Pilkington being our only creative player. Let's have another wide man and attack visiting teams.

Let's use our creative players from the start and not bring then on when we are losing and chasing the game.

The only clueless person is the OP. Maybe instead of trying to force your viewpoint on everyone and attack those who don't fall in line with stupid names, like some religious nutter, maybe you should appreciate that others will see things in a different way to you.

To suggest they are wrong and you are right is utterly ridiculous. Finally, preseason doesn't mean a thing in terms of results. How did our preseason go the year we went up? How many premier league clubs have been inconsistent during preseason then have gone on to win it? Its all about fitness and trying to get an understanding between players before the season kicks off.

I fully agree that people s opinions are different and if they are not the same as someone else doesn t make them clueless.

On Saturday for me Mason was eased off the ball too many times...he has no real pace and I dont think he is our answer up front...as for Revell.. he is shocking at this level...4 goals so far in three games 2 by Noone who continues to occupy the bench and two by defenders...our forwards are poor..and and Slade isn t up to it 700 games never achieved anything ..at his age if he was any good he would have been in the championship years ago... and that's my opinion and I have been following city since 1967-8 played welsh league football.... and I don't play football manager...and if people like Troobloo don t agree with me that's fine...they have their opinions and I respect them