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Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sat Aug 15, 2015 7:50 pm

No energy again and way off the pace just passed the ball side to side and back all game. Just a passanger again today imo.

Dikgachoi looks a class act put himself about and looks a very solid defensive midfielder, just need a high energy midfield general alongside him to dictate play and we will have a quality midfield just hope slade sorts this out.

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:06 pm

BlueMagic wrote:No energy again and way off the pace just passed the ball side to side and back all game. Just a passanger again today imo.

Dikgachoi looks a class act put himself about and looks a very solid defensive midfielder, just need a high energy midfield general alongside him to dictate play and we will have a quality midfield just hope slade sorts this out.

Funny how people see things. Thought Whitts was good today and Ralls. Diko looked a bit lost sometimes but was solid enough just lacking match fitness, there's more to come from him for sure. Good performance today though.

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:14 pm

BlueMagic wrote:No energy again and way off the pace just passed the ball side to side and back all game. Just a passanger again today imo.

Dikgachoi looks a class act put himself about and looks a very solid defensive midfielder, just need a high energy midfield general alongside him to dictate play and we will have a quality midfield just hope slade sorts this out.


Whittingham disappointing again. The usual sideways shuffles and allowing the opposition to just walk through us like a knife through butter. How much longer should we be constrained to playing with just 10 men? However, I watched the match on tv and someone made a "world class" pass from about halfway inside our half to the wing. It was sublime. I thought it was Whittingham and will credit him with it but its the only thing I saw him do all match. In all fairness, I have seen some sublime passes from Gunnar and Ralls too but, like Whittingham, not often enough. Bring back Gunnar, all is forgiven!

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:53 pm

Whitts is the weak link for me
watch him closely he walks around un interested half the time unlike ralls who demands the ball at every opportunity
time people woke up whitts is passed his best / sell by date

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:25 am

troobloo3339 wrote:Whitts is the weak link for me
watch him closely he walks around un interested half the time unlike ralls who demands the ball at every opportunity
time people woke up whitts is passed his best / sell by date


Whitts plays with his brain mate, I watch him very closely and his movement to get on the ball the majority of the time spot on, you don't have to run around like headless chicken demanding the ball to be a good player. Same thing goes for his defending it's not in his character to go around hunting the ball back but he does his defending by staying on his feet ushering players into crowded areas etc. Our midfield at the moment looks really nicely balanced in my eyes, Ralls has energy and quality, Dikgacoi brings a presence and is composed on the ball, Whitts is our main ball player and keeps us ticking over well and Pilks brings attacking threat and creativity. Slades created a system to get our ball players on the ball as much as possible, I think that showed today in how we dominated possession. :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 1:37 am

BlueMagic wrote:No energy again and way off the pace just passed the ball side to side and back all game. Just a passanger again today imo.

Dikgachoi looks a class act put himself about and looks a very solid defensive midfielder, just need a high energy midfield general alongside him to dictate play and we will have a quality midfield just hope slade sorts this out.


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Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:39 am

Whitts was way of the pace I thought

We need more energy in midfield

Revelle again very poor and although Mason makes some nice runs he is so lightweight - needs a good meal to beef up a little

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:32 am

Drop Whitts, Revell and Peltier. Put Ralls in the middle, Noone or Ameobi out wide, Manga (if fit) alongside Morrison, Connolly right back and kenwynne up top.

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:36 am

I see Whitts has taken the mantle of "good Cardiff player who gets abused for everything"

Great corner for an important goal yesterday. Still not being used correctly and forming a new partnership in midfield

Be good football fans and give him 6-10 games to make it all work

Or be typical Cardiff fans and whine like we should be perfect every single time.

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:47 am

GotMeSingingTheBlues wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Whitts is the weak link for me
watch him closely he walks around un interested half the time unlike ralls who demands the ball at every opportunity
time people woke up whitts is passed his best / sell by date


Whitts plays with his brain mate, I watch him very closely and his movement to get on the ball the majority of the time spot on, you don't have to run around like headless chicken demanding the ball to be a good player. Same thing goes for his defending it's not in his character to go around hunting the ball back but he does his defending by staying on his feet ushering players into crowded areas etc. Our midfield at the moment looks really nicely balanced in my eyes, Ralls has energy and quality, Dikgacoi brings a presence and is composed on the ball, Whitts is our main ball player and keeps us ticking over well and Pilks brings attacking threat and creativity. Slades created a system to get our ball players on the ball as much as possible, I think that showed today in how we dominated possession. :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:

Very good assessment, quality player who gets more stick than deserved. He has never been a player who goes diving into challenges (if i remember right he went into a big one and won it last night). Like you said he plays with his brain

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:45 am

BlueMagic wrote:No energy again and way off the pace just passed the ball side to side and back all game. Just a passanger again today imo.

Dikgachoi looks a class act put himself about and looks a very solid defensive midfielder, just need a high energy midfield general alongside him to dictate play and we will have a quality midfield just hope slade sorts this out.

Oh dear, I suppose you do have a right to an opinion

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:48 am

GotMeSingingTheBlues wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Whitts is the weak link for me
watch him closely he walks around un interested half the time unlike ralls who demands the ball at every opportunity
time people woke up whitts is passed his best / sell by date


Whitts plays with his brain mate, I watch him very closely and his movement to get on the ball the majority of the time spot on, you don't have to run around like headless chicken demanding the ball to be a good player. Same thing goes for his defending it's not in his character to go around hunting the ball back but he does his defending by staying on his feet ushering players into crowded areas etc. Our midfield at the moment looks really nicely balanced in my eyes, Ralls has energy and quality, Dikgacoi brings a presence and is composed on the ball, Whitts is our main ball player and keeps us ticking over well and Pilks brings attacking threat and creativity. Slades created a system to get our ball players on the ball as much as possible, I think that showed today in how we dominated possession. :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:

Some people are just blinded mate, very good assessment from you and I totally agree 100% and exactly how I see it. Whitts has a football brain not a chicken that loses his head.
The possession we had today shows clearly that our midfield was very good, all four of them. :thumbup:

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:59 am

tenerife_blu wrote:
GotMeSingingTheBlues wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Whitts is the weak link for me
watch him closely he walks around un interested half the time unlike ralls who demands the ball at every opportunity
time people woke up whitts is passed his best / sell by date


Whitts plays with his brain mate, I watch him very closely and his movement to get on the ball the majority of the time spot on, you don't have to run around like headless chicken demanding the ball to be a good player. Same thing goes for his defending it's not in his character to go around hunting the ball back but he does his defending by staying on his feet ushering players into crowded areas etc. Our midfield at the moment looks really nicely balanced in my eyes, Ralls has energy and quality, Dikgacoi brings a presence and is composed on the ball, Whitts is our main ball player and keeps us ticking over well and Pilks brings attacking threat and creativity. Slades created a system to get our ball players on the ball as much as possible, I think that showed today in how we dominated possession. :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:

Some people are just blinded mate, very good assessment from you and I totally agree 100% and exactly how I see it. Whitts has a football brain not a chicken that loses his head.
The possession we had today shows clearly that our midfield was very good, all four of them. :thumbup:


Whitts has become a bit of a scapegoat for some of the moaners on here. He was much better yesterday, and when he finally got the range right for his passing in the second half began to show some of the old touches. What pleased me was that when Dikgacoi went off, Ralls was still able to protect Whitts to let him get on with his passing game. Unless there are injuries, looks like Gunnarsson could be spending a fair amount of time on the bench this season.

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:22 am

GotMeSingingTheBlues wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Whitts is the weak link for me
watch him closely he walks around un interested half the time unlike ralls who demands the ball at every opportunity
time people woke up whitts is passed his best / sell by date


Whitts plays with his brain mate, I watch him very closely and his movement to get on the ball the majority of the time spot on, you don't have to run around like headless chicken demanding the ball to be a good player. Same thing goes for his defending it's not in his character to go around hunting the ball back but he does his defending by staying on his feet ushering players into crowded areas etc. Our midfield at the moment looks really nicely balanced in my eyes, Ralls has energy and quality, Dikgacoi brings a presence and is composed on the ball, Whitts is our main ball player and keeps us ticking over well and Pilks brings attacking threat and creativity. Slades created a system to get our ball players on the ball as much as possible, I think that showed today in how we dominated possession. :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:


A few points on your post.....

1. A good midfield player who wants to dictate play WILL run around and demand the ball, dosent have to be like a headless chicken like u say but whitts dosent demand the ball or try to get us on the front foot and dictate play.

2. Yeh your right not in whitts character to go around hunting the ball, a good centre midfielder in a 442 should always do this, you say he ushers players into crowded areas,the only ushering i have seen from whitts last 2 years is him ushering players to run straight passed him with the ball, hes too slow and always second to the ball.

3. You say ralls has energy and quality then why not play him in centre mid and give him a chance to perform in there sure he will be a good player in there for us, leaving a chance for ameobi or noone to take ralls place on the wing then.

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:38 am

Our midfield 4 dominated their 5 man midfield yesterday. That doesn't happen if we are carrying 1 of the 4.

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:47 am

BlueMagic wrote:
GotMeSingingTheBlues wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Whitts is the weak link for me
watch him closely he walks around un interested half the time unlike ralls who demands the ball at every opportunity
time people woke up whitts is passed his best / sell by date


Whitts plays with his brain mate, I watch him very closely and his movement to get on the ball the majority of the time spot on, you don't have to run around like headless chicken demanding the ball to be a good player. Same thing goes for his defending it's not in his character to go around hunting the ball back but he does his defending by staying on his feet ushering players into crowded areas etc. Our midfield at the moment looks really nicely balanced in my eyes, Ralls has energy and quality, Dikgacoi brings a presence and is composed on the ball, Whitts is our main ball player and keeps us ticking over well and Pilks brings attacking threat and creativity. Slades created a system to get our ball players on the ball as much as possible, I think that showed today in how we dominated possession. :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:


A few points on your post.....

1. A good midfield player who wants to dictate play WILL run around and demand the ball, dosent have to be like a headless chicken like u say but whitts dosent demand the ball or try to get us on the front foot and dictate play.

2. Yeh your right not in whitts character to go around hunting the ball, a good centre midfielder in a 442 should always do this, you say he ushers players into crowded areas,the only ushering i have seen from whitts last 2 years is him ushering players to run straight passed him with the ball, hes too slow and always second to the ball.

3. You say ralls has energy and quality then why not play him in centre mid and give him a chance to perform in there sure he will be a good player in there for us, leaving a chance for ameobi or noone to take ralls place on the wing then.




I must have watched a different game to you. fella!

In my game, Whitts was always in position to take the ball off his team mates, often from defensive positions before passing the ball on swiftly and accurately, whilst certain other players are still giving the ball away far too cheaply

I would have thought people would have learned what Whitts is all about by now and what a continued asset he is, but (as usual) maybe a bit of familiarity has bred a little contempt for the overall work he does for the team! ;)

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:22 am

Dikgacoi still not match fit and still can't last more than 70 minutes.

How long does it take a professional sportsman to get fit enough to do his job properly. Has ther ever been a footballer who can't play for more than 70 minutes?

What happens if we ever have to make three substitutions before the 70th minute of a game? Will Dikcacoi be withdrawn after 70 minutes anyway or will he stay on the pitch blowing out of his arse as the opposition walk around him with the ball?

Let's guess the first game in which he plays a full 90 minutes this season - I'm going to say....it's not going to happen.

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:40 am

Sven wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
GotMeSingingTheBlues wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Whitts is the weak link for me
watch him closely he walks around un interested half the time unlike ralls who demands the ball at every opportunity
time people woke up whitts is passed his best / sell by date


Whitts plays with his brain mate, I watch him very closely and his movement to get on the ball the majority of the time spot on, you don't have to run around like headless chicken demanding the ball to be a good player. Same thing goes for his defending it's not in his character to go around hunting the ball back but he does his defending by staying on his feet ushering players into crowded areas etc. Our midfield at the moment looks really nicely balanced in my eyes, Ralls has energy and quality, Dikgacoi brings a presence and is composed on the ball, Whitts is our main ball player and keeps us ticking over well and Pilks brings attacking threat and creativity. Slades created a system to get our ball players on the ball as much as possible, I think that showed today in how we dominated possession. :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:


A few points on your post.....

1. A good midfield player who wants to dictate play WILL run around and demand the ball, dosent have to be like a headless chicken like u say but whitts dosent demand the ball or try to get us on the front foot and dictate play.

2. Yeh your right not in whitts character to go around hunting the ball, a good centre midfielder in a 442 should always do this, you say he ushers players into crowded areas,the only ushering i have seen from whitts last 2 years is him ushering players to run straight passed him with the ball, hes too slow and always second to the ball.

3. You say ralls has energy and quality then why not play him in centre mid and give him a chance to perform in there sure he will be a good player in there for us, leaving a chance for ameobi or noone to take ralls place on the wing then.




I must have watched a different game to you. fella!

In my game, Whitts was always in position to take the ball off his team mates, often from defensive positions before passing the ball on swiftly and accurately, whilst certain other players are still giving the ball away far too cheaply

I would have thought people would have learned what Whitts is all about by now and what a continued asset he is, but (as usual) maybe a bit of familiarity has bred a little contempt for the overall work he does for the team! ;)


Sums it up nicely mate.This thread just goes to show you can't be an expert pundit just by being good on football manager or fifa 15. :lol: Some of the comments both yesterday and today about the performance and players in yesterdays match left me speechless.I know its too early to know how the seasons going to pan out but the upward performance curve is there for all to see(except for some true idiots on here)and if it keeps going in this direction then we may just surprise a few including alot of our so-clled supporters it seems.

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:43 am

davids wrote:Dikgacoi still not match fit and still can't last more than 70 minutes.

How long does it take a professional sportsman to get fit enough to do his job properly. Has ther ever been a footballer who can't play for more than 70 minutes?

What happens if we ever have to make three substitutions before the 70th minute of a game? Will Dikcacoi be withdrawn after 70 minutes anyway or will he stay on the pitch blowing out of his arse as the opposition walk around him with the ball?

Let's guess the first game in which he plays a full 90 minutes this season - I'm going to say....it's not going to happen.


He could easily play 90 minutes. But granted he aint the fittest player in the team so whats the problem in bringing fresh legs on every other team in the country do it. He looked impressive yesterday, he missed a whole season last year his match fitness will be up to speed now in no time and he will be even better.

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:51 am

Sven wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
GotMeSingingTheBlues wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Whitts is the weak link for me
watch him closely he walks around un interested half the time unlike ralls who demands the ball at every opportunity
time people woke up whitts is passed his best / sell by date


Whitts plays with his brain mate, I watch him very closely and his movement to get on the ball the majority of the time spot on, you don't have to run around like headless chicken demanding the ball to be a good player. Same thing goes for his defending it's not in his character to go around hunting the ball back but he does his defending by staying on his feet ushering players into crowded areas etc. Our midfield at the moment looks really nicely balanced in my eyes, Ralls has energy and quality, Dikgacoi brings a presence and is composed on the ball, Whitts is our main ball player and keeps us ticking over well and Pilks brings attacking threat and creativity. Slades created a system to get our ball players on the ball as much as possible, I think that showed today in how we dominated possession. :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:


A few points on your post.....

1. A good midfield player who wants to dictate play WILL run around and demand the ball, dosent have to be like a headless chicken like u say but whitts dosent demand the ball or try to get us on the front foot and dictate play.

2. Yeh your right not in whitts character to go around hunting the ball, a good centre midfielder in a 442 should always do this, you say he ushers players into crowded areas,the only ushering i have seen from whitts last 2 years is him ushering players to run straight passed him with the ball, hes too slow and always second to the ball.

3. You say ralls has energy and quality then why not play him in centre mid and give him a chance to perform in there sure he will be a good player in there for us, leaving a chance for ameobi or noone to take ralls place on the wing then.




I must have watched a different game to you. fella!

In my game, Whitts was always in position to take the ball off his team mates, often from defensive positions before passing the ball on swiftly and accurately, whilst certain other players are still giving the ball away far too cheaply

I would have thought people would have learned what Whitts is all about by now and what a continued asset he is, but (as usual) maybe a bit of familiarity has bred a little contempt for the overall work he does for the team! ;)


Not all good midfielders are busy and always demanding the ball, now in no way shape or form am I comparing him to these players but you watch Pirlo, Carrick etc they use their heads by getting themselves into positions where they can receive the ball, find a team mate, make another angle and get on it again. Different midfielders have different styles of play, Whitts is our best ball player, he keeps the ball better than any other player in our squad and with the system Slade has created I think it works really well.
My only gripe would be is I'd like to see him be a little bit more positive, there was a pass yesterday when he had a runner down the right wing and he picked him out with a great pass and it got us from the edge of our box to the edge of theirs in the matter of seconds. I think we need to replace Revell up front with someone thats going to stretch the play so it starts to open up holes and space for Whitts to play passes into, Mason does well dropping into the holes but we need another option going the other way to stretch defences.

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:56 am

GotMeSingingTheBlues wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Whitts is the weak link for me
watch him closely he walks around un interested half the time unlike ralls who demands the ball at every opportunity
time people woke up whitts is passed his best / sell by date


Whitts plays with his brain mate, I watch him very closely and his movement to get on the ball the majority of the time spot on, you don't have to run around like headless chicken demanding the ball to be a good player. Same thing goes for his defending it's not in his character to go around hunting the ball back but he does his defending by staying on his feet ushering players into crowded areas etc. Our midfield at the moment looks really nicely balanced in my eyes, Ralls has energy and quality, Dikgacoi brings a presence and is composed on the ball, Whitts is our main ball player and keeps us ticking over well and Pilks brings attacking threat and creativity. Slades created a system to get our ball players on the ball as much as possible, I think that showed today in how we dominated possession. :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:


Spot on mate :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:55 pm

Sven wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
GotMeSingingTheBlues wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Whitts is the weak link for me
watch him closely he walks around un interested half the time unlike ralls who demands the ball at every opportunity
time people woke up whitts is passed his best / sell by date


Whitts plays with his brain mate, I watch him very closely and his movement to get on the ball the majority of the time spot on, you don't have to run around like headless chicken demanding the ball to be a good player. Same thing goes for his defending it's not in his character to go around hunting the ball back but he does his defending by staying on his feet ushering players into crowded areas etc. Our midfield at the moment looks really nicely balanced in my eyes, Ralls has energy and quality, Dikgacoi brings a presence and is composed on the ball, Whitts is our main ball player and keeps us ticking over well and Pilks brings attacking threat and creativity. Slades created a system to get our ball players on the ball as much as possible, I think that showed today in how we dominated possession. :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:


A few points on your post.....

1. A good midfield player who wants to dictate play WILL run around and demand the ball, dosent have to be like a headless chicken like u say but whitts dosent demand the ball or try to get us on the front foot and dictate play.

2. Yeh your right not in whitts character to go around hunting the ball, a good centre midfielder in a 442 should always do this, you say he ushers players into crowded areas,the only ushering i have seen from whitts last 2 years is him ushering players to run straight passed him with the ball, hes too slow and always second to the ball.

3. You say ralls has energy and quality then why not play him in centre mid and give him a chance to perform in there sure he will be a good player in there for us, leaving a chance for ameobi or noone to take ralls place on the wing then.




I must have watched a different game to you. fella!

In my game, Whitts was always in position to take the ball off his team mates, often from defensive positions before passing the ball on swiftly and accurately, whilst certain other players are still giving the ball away far too cheaply

I would have thought people would have learned what Whitts is all about by now and what a continued asset he is, but (as usual) maybe a bit of familiarity has bred a little contempt for the overall work he does for the team! ;)



basically he is saying we only had 3 midfield players on pitch yesterday, as whitts didnt contribute much to the team? all i can say is the other 3 players were fantastic to out play qpr's 5 midfielders!! :roll:

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:15 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Sven wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
GotMeSingingTheBlues wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Whitts is the weak link for me
watch him closely he walks around un interested half the time unlike ralls who demands the ball at every opportunity
time people woke up whitts is passed his best / sell by date


Whitts plays with his brain mate, I watch him very closely and his movement to get on the ball the majority of the time spot on, you don't have to run around like headless chicken demanding the ball to be a good player. Same thing goes for his defending it's not in his character to go around hunting the ball back but he does his defending by staying on his feet ushering players into crowded areas etc. Our midfield at the moment looks really nicely balanced in my eyes, Ralls has energy and quality, Dikgacoi brings a presence and is composed on the ball, Whitts is our main ball player and keeps us ticking over well and Pilks brings attacking threat and creativity. Slades created a system to get our ball players on the ball as much as possible, I think that showed today in how we dominated possession. :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:


A few points on your post.....

1. A good midfield player who wants to dictate play WILL run around and demand the ball, dosent have to be like a headless chicken like u say but whitts dosent demand the ball or try to get us on the front foot and dictate play.

2. Yeh your right not in whitts character to go around hunting the ball, a good centre midfielder in a 442 should always do this, you say he ushers players into crowded areas,the only ushering i have seen from whitts last 2 years is him ushering players to run straight passed him with the ball, hes too slow and always second to the ball.

3. You say ralls has energy and quality then why not play him in centre mid and give him a chance to perform in there sure he will be a good player in there for us, leaving a chance for ameobi or noone to take ralls place on the wing then.




I must have watched a different game to you. fella!

In my game, Whitts was always in position to take the ball off his team mates, often from defensive positions before passing the ball on swiftly and accurately, whilst certain other players are still giving the ball away far too cheaply

I would have thought people would have learned what Whitts is all about by now and what a continued asset he is, but (as usual) maybe a bit of familiarity has bred a little contempt for the overall work he does for the team! ;)



basically he is saying we only had 3 midfield players on pitch yesterday, as whitts didnt contribute much to the team? all i can say is the other 3 players were fantastic to out play qpr's 5 midfielders!! :roll:





Thanks, Allan :thumbup: :laughing6: :laughing6:

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:23 pm

BlueMagic wrote:No energy again and way off the pace just passed the ball side to side and back all game. Just a passanger again today imo.

Dikgachoi looks a class act put himself about and looks a very solid defensive midfielder, just need a high energy midfield general alongside him to dictate play and we will have a quality midfield just hope slade sorts this out.


Whitts played a huge role in our 62% possession in that game (which is impressive when you have a 4 man midfield against a 5 man midfield), try and watch his positioning next game. If Whitts wasn't on the pitch we would have lumped it up for 90 mins and probably lost.

He also sucks defenders out of the box when he has the ball 20 yards out because they know he can shoot accurately from that range.

The Whitts bashing is getting a bit boring now.

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:34 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Sven wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
GotMeSingingTheBlues wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Whitts is the weak link for me
watch him closely he walks around un interested half the time unlike ralls who demands the ball at every opportunity
time people woke up whitts is passed his best / sell by date


Whitts plays with his brain mate, I watch him very closely and his movement to get on the ball the majority of the time spot on, you don't have to run around like headless chicken demanding the ball to be a good player. Same thing goes for his defending it's not in his character to go around hunting the ball back but he does his defending by staying on his feet ushering players into crowded areas etc. Our midfield at the moment looks really nicely balanced in my eyes, Ralls has energy and quality, Dikgacoi brings a presence and is composed on the ball, Whitts is our main ball player and keeps us ticking over well and Pilks brings attacking threat and creativity. Slades created a system to get our ball players on the ball as much as possible, I think that showed today in how we dominated possession. :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:


A few points on your post.....

1. A good midfield player who wants to dictate play WILL run around and demand the ball, dosent have to be like a headless chicken like u say but whitts dosent demand the ball or try to get us on the front foot and dictate play.

2. Yeh your right not in whitts character to go around hunting the ball, a good centre midfielder in a 442 should always do this, you say he ushers players into crowded areas,the only ushering i have seen from whitts last 2 years is him ushering players to run straight passed him with the ball, hes too slow and always second to the ball.

3. You say ralls has energy and quality then why not play him in centre mid and give him a chance to perform in there sure he will be a good player in there for us, leaving a chance for ameobi or noone to take ralls place on the wing then.




I must have watched a different game to you. fella!

In my game, Whitts was always in position to take the ball off his team mates, often from defensive positions before passing the ball on swiftly and accurately, whilst certain other players are still giving the ball away far too cheaply

I would have thought people would have learned what Whitts is all about by now and what a continued asset he is, but (as usual) maybe a bit of familiarity has bred a little contempt for the overall work he does for the team! ;)



basically he is saying we only had 3 midfield players on pitch yesterday, as whitts didnt contribute much to the team? all i can say is the other 3 players were fantastic to out play qpr's 5 midfielders!! :roll:


Allan, I applaud you! You got it spot on at last. Think of the positives, how good would we be without a passenger?

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:23 am

Some people have made their mind up that Whitts is shit no matter what.

I like Whitts but don't think he can play in Slade's way of 4-4-2. Against Fulham he struggled and I though that could be the end.

However, against QPR I though he was excellent. He was always in a position to receive the ball and hardly gave it away. I've watched the game back and anyone saying Whitts was poor simply isn't watching the game. It does seem that Dikgacoi is a better partner for him that Gunnarrsson.

Judge Whitts on his current performances and give the guy a break.

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:39 am

City Slicker wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:No energy again and way off the pace just passed the ball side to side and back all game. Just a passanger again today imo.

Dikgachoi looks a class act put himself about and looks a very solid defensive midfielder, just need a high energy midfield general alongside him to dictate play and we will have a quality midfield just hope slade sorts this out.


Whittingham disappointing again. The usual sideways shuffles and allowing the opposition to just walk through us like a knife through butter. How much longer should we be constrained to playing with just 10 men? However, I watched the match on tv and someone made a "world class" pass from about halfway inside our half to the wing. It was sublime. I thought it was Whittingham and will credit him with it but its the only thing I saw him do all match. In all fairness, I have seen some sublime passes from Gunnar and Ralls too but, like Whittingham, not often enough. Bring back Gunnar, all is forgiven!



what a f*cking idiot! :lol:

when in the entire game did QPR "walk through us like a knife through butter"?

most of their counter attacks were down the flanks when we were pushing forward. We absolutely bossed their midfield despite being a man down in that area.

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:45 am

GotMeSingingTheBlues wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:Whitts is the weak link for me
watch him closely he walks around un interested half the time unlike ralls who demands the ball at every opportunity
time people woke up whitts is passed his best / sell by date


Whitts plays with his brain mate, I watch him very closely and his movement to get on the ball the majority of the time spot on, you don't have to run around like headless chicken demanding the ball to be a good player. Same thing goes for his defending it's not in his character to go around hunting the ball back but he does his defending by staying on his feet ushering players into crowded areas etc. Our midfield at the moment looks really nicely balanced in my eyes, Ralls has energy and quality, Dikgacoi brings a presence and is composed on the ball, Whitts is our main ball player and keeps us ticking over well and Pilks brings attacking threat and creativity. Slades created a system to get our ball players on the ball as much as possible, I think that showed today in how we dominated possession. :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:
agree with this, Whittingham never needs to run around like a headless chicken as he reads the game well and always positions himself in the right areas, Whittingham wasone of our best players at qpr

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:11 am

paulh_85 wrote:
City Slicker wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:No energy again and way off the pace just passed the ball side to side and back all game. Just a passanger again today imo.

Dikgachoi looks a class act put himself about and looks a very solid defensive midfielder, just need a high energy midfield general alongside him to dictate play and we will have a quality midfield just hope slade sorts this out.


Whittingham disappointing again. The usual sideways shuffles and allowing the opposition to just walk through us like a knife through butter. How much longer should we be constrained to playing with just 10 men? However, I watched the match on tv and someone made a "world class" pass from about halfway inside our half to the wing. It was sublime. I thought it was Whittingham and will credit him with it but its the only thing I saw him do all match. In all fairness, I have seen some sublime passes from Gunnar and Ralls too but, like Whittingham, not often enough. Bring back Gunnar, all is forgiven!



what a f*cking idiot! :lol:

when in the entire game did QPR "walk through us like a knife through butter"?

most of their counter attacks were down the flanks when we were pushing forward. We absolutely bossed their midfield despite being a man down in that area.


f**k up you cretin!

You obviously watched the match with your eyes closed or were too pissed to see properly.

There were many instances of balls played through the middle and Whittingham was like a statue. They happened to have a poor midfield yesterday. I doubt we would have had as much possession against a better assembled midfield and in sny case any positives from our midfield are Dikgakoi and Ralls. Your point about us playing with a man fown in midfield is exactly the point I made.

Re: Whitts Passenger Again/Dikgachoi

Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:44 am

BlueMagic wrote:
davids wrote:Dikgacoi still not match fit and still can't last more than 70 minutes.

How long does it take a professional sportsman to get fit enough to do his job properly. Has ther ever been a footballer who can't play for more than 70 minutes?

What happens if we ever have to make three substitutions before the 70th minute of a game? Will Dikcacoi be withdrawn after 70 minutes anyway or will he stay on the pitch blowing out of his arse as the opposition walk around him with the ball?

Let's guess the first game in which he plays a full 90 minutes this season - I'm going to say....it's not going to happen.


He could easily play 90 minutes. But granted he aint the fittest player in the team so whats the problem in bringing fresh legs on every other team in the country do it. He looked impressive yesterday, he missed a whole season last year his match fitness will be up to speed now in no time and he will be even better.


Are you sure he can "easily" play 90 minutes? All the evidence would suggest that he can't I'm afraid. Slade persists with selecting a player who is not fit enough to last a whole game. One substitute has to be used every game for Dikgacoi which is limiting Slade's options.