The welfare culture in Britain

Why is their such a massive welfare culture in Britain? I have been fortunate to travel to many parts of the world and Britain seems to have this problem more than most.

At the expense of the working population those on benefits get solar panels, new kitchens and other things that people who work would have to pay for out of their own pocket.

This rewarding of laziness needs to stop as its created a dependency culture.

Why are you on your high horse James?

Feeling bored of mummy and daddys summer home?

I'm not on a high horse Paul. Why are you attacking the poster rather than answering the above question? Do you think its fair that people on benefits get freebies whilst people like Brownie, who get up and work long hours, would have to pay for those same things?

And no, to answer your question, I am not bored at all. I just wanted to gather peoples views on the above matter and whether or not they think this is a good thing. Also, its not a summer home. We live here full time.

what needs to happen is a raising of the minimum wage so people can stand on their own two feet.

social housing is a shocking waste of money but the real scroungers are the landlords who pocket the taxpayers cash by buying up scarce housing and renting it back to people who don't earn enough to stand on their own two feet.

if you got out there and met people you'd realise that the vast majority of people dont want to be a drain on the taxpayer. wages are being depressed by access to unlimited labour from europe aswell. those are the main problems...

landlords provide housing for people who otherwise have no were to live
and yes its a investment they aim to earn money from, do you go to work for
free ?.

i am a landlord and i can tell you its not easy money and if you get bad tenant then yoy
lose a lot of money,

Life is too short. I don't care about people living off benefits. I enjoy working.

what needs to happen is a raising of the minimum wage so people can stand on their own two feet.

social housing is a shocking waste of money but the real scroungers are the landlords who pocket the taxpayers cash by buying up scarce housing and renting it back to people who don't earn enough to stand on their own two feet.

if you got out there and met people you'd realise that the vast majority of people dont want to be a drain on the taxpayer. wages are being depressed by access to unlimited labour from europe aswell. those are the main problems...

The mininum wage is fine as it is in all places apart from london.

It should rise and fall with inflation. But weve been the same the months. Theyve even talked about deflation havent they?.

landlords provide housing for people who otherwise have no were to live
and yes its a investment they aim to earn money from, do you go to work for
free ?.

i am a landlord and i can tell you its not easy money and if you get bad tenant then yoy
lose a lot of money,

if social housing was owned and run by the council they could reinvest the money, as it stands it goes straight into the pocket of landlords, who also push up the cost of housing for people who want to own their own home but are stuck in the vicious circle of renting.

and were do you think people would live
without private landlords .

social housing is not enough to provide the
amount of people that need housing

landlords provide housing for people who otherwise have no were to live
and yes its a investment they aim to earn money from, do you go to work for
free ?.

i am a landlord and i can tell you its not easy money and if you get bad tenant then yoy
lose a lot of money,

if social housing was owned and run by the council they could reinvest the money, as it stands it goes straight into the pocket of landlords, who also push up the cost of housing for people who want to own their own home but are stuck in the vicious circle of renting.

Like the £9,9 million of overcharging Merthyr Council done to its housing tenants and keep it to themselves for 3 decades..? Can you imagine if a private landlord ripped their tenants off like that..?

I fully agree with Spikey, I had a bad tenant and it cost me over £10k in repairs yet I was almost sent to prison for only threatening to take legal action against them and was handed a £3K fine on top of that!!!

I'm not on a high horse Paul. Why are you attacking the poster rather than answering the above question? Do you think its fair that people on benefits get freebies whilst people like Brownie, who get up and work long hours, would have to pay for those same things?

And no, to answer your question, I am not bored at all. I just wanted to gather peoples views on the above matter and whether or not they think this is a good thing. Also, its not a summer home. We live here full time.

I love working to be honest and the constant risk pushes me and you just cant get that in PAYE working. Ive always said that everyone should be effectively self employed and made to do their own tax returns. That way people would have a much better understanding of the tax system in this country and stop listening to one sided newspapers or union barons.

same as me mate tenant trashed my house
cost me 10k to repair . had to go court to get
them out. cost them nothing as as on benefits.


marland house the housing people tell them to
stay in property until they go court or they
wont help them .

and then you get emails off them aking if
you got houses they can use !!.

Most people claiming benefits actually work, unless you read the Daily Mail.Having worked with the unemployed of course there are those who do not want to work,is this new ?? I think not but I will tell you something I know Job Centres have given up with the basket cases and hassle those newly unemployed or those genuinely trying to find work.The 30 year brigade are left alone, that is a fact so it is up to those in power to make these slobs work Create a work programme for those on benefits longer than one year.There is plenty to do, so what is the excuse?Too many employers take advantage of people and keep them on 16 hours or under ,plain and simple. Blanket accusations because of brain dead newspaper articles or outrageous shitty TV programmes are meant for the stupid or uneducated.

same as me mate tenant trashed my house
cost me 10k to repair . had to go court to get
them out. cost them nothing as as on benefits.


marland house the housing people tell them to
stay in property until they go court or they
wont help them .

and then you get emails off them aking if
you got houses they can use !!.

That's right the council tell them to stay in the house until the court date arrives this makes sure that the landlord continues to lose more and more money

Why is their such a massive welfare culture in Britain? I have been fortunate to travel to many parts of the world and Britain seems to have this problem more than most.

At the expense of the working population those on benefits get solar panels, new kitchens and other things that people who work would have to pay for out of their own pocket.

This rewarding of laziness needs to stop as its created a dependency culture.

what needs to happen is a raising of the minimum wage so people can stand on their own two feet.

social housing is a shocking waste of money but the real scroungers are the landlords who pocket the taxpayers cash by buying up scarce housing and renting it back to people who don't earn enough to stand on their own two feet.

if you got out there and met people you'd realise that the vast majority of people dont want to be a drain on the taxpayer. wages are being depressed by access to unlimited labour from europe aswell. those are the main problems...

To be honest, as much as it sounds great minimum wage going up this year (£7 I believe), I think it's pointless raising it. Why? Because prices will go up to match it. You watch.

Living wage however I'm all for. Living wage is what we, the people at the "lower" end of the working spectrum, should be on.

Most people claiming benefits actually work, unless you read the Daily Mail.

Nobody other than yourself has stated otherwise. This culture of dependency is not going to stop when people on benefits are being rewarded with new kitchens and solar panels. All it is going to do is annoy the population who do not get benefits in any form and create a divide of resentment within society. Immigrants get a lot of stick in the UK, but across the street from me there used to be an asian family where every single one of them worked hard every day getting up early in the morning. Then there'd be brits with 2-3 kids in their late teens claiming for fun whilst living it up. When you reward this culture you are essentially not only condoning it but you are positively encouraging it.

What a well thought out response.

What a well thought out response.

Couldn't agree more!

I'm not on a high horse Paul. Why are you attacking the poster rather than answering the above question? Do you think its fair that people on benefits get freebies whilst people like Brownie, who get up and work long hours, would have to pay for those same things?

And no, to answer your question, I am not bored at all. I just wanted to gather peoples views on the above matter and whether or not they think this is a good thing. Also, its not a summer home. We live here full time.

I love working to be honest and the constant risk pushes me and you just cant get that in PAYE working. Ive always said that everyone should be effectively self employed and made to do their own tax returns. That way people would have a much better understanding of the tax system in this country and stop listening to one sided newspapers or union barons.

Do there own tax returns right.

Like you I'm self employed and this tax return business is there basically to generate jobs for accountants and individual who are not productive. The tax system could be made a lot easier even for those on PAYE but no the governments of today make it difficult, putting people off therefore forcing them to use accountants who basically do the dirty work of the Government at the tax payers expense.

I'm not on a high horse Paul. Why are you attacking the poster rather than answering the above question? Do you think its fair that people on benefits get freebies whilst people like Brownie, who get up and work long hours, would have to pay for those same things?

And no, to answer your question, I am not bored at all. I just wanted to gather peoples views on the above matter and whether or not they think this is a good thing. Also, its not a summer home. We live here full time.

I love working to be honest and the constant risk pushes me and you just cant get that in PAYE working. Ive always said that everyone should be effectively self employed and made to do their own tax returns. That way people would have a much better understanding of the tax system in this country and stop listening to one sided newspapers or union barons.

Do there own tax returns right.

Like you I'm self employed and this tax return business is there basically to generate jobs for accountants and individual who are not productive. The tax system could be made a lot easier even for those on PAYE but no the governments of today make it difficult, putting people off therefore forcing them to use accountants who basically do the dirty work of the Government at the tax payers expense.

You don't have to use an accountant if you don't want too and anyway using an accountant is cheaper than paying too much tax.
Also by everyone being self employed then the sickness records for work will go down because of you don't work you won't earn and it's as simple as that

what needs to happen is a raising of the minimum wage so people can stand on their own two feet.

social housing is a shocking waste of money but the real scroungers are the landlords who pocket the taxpayers cash by buying up scarce housing and renting it back to people who don't earn enough to stand on their own two feet.

if you got out there and met people you'd realise that the vast majority of people dont want to be a drain on the taxpayer. wages are being depressed by access to unlimited labour from europe aswell. those are the main problems...

Good response to several loaded questions.

"Collecting peoples views" as he stated is the furthest thing from his mind.