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Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budget

Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:54 pm

Fair play to them for doing this: http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-05- ... world-cup/

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:58 pm

Actually a good idea but. ...f**k russia :D

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:18 am

Good idea

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:40 am

Terrible idea. Why should criminals who cant abide by the rules of society be allowed back out to work in society and earn money as well? They should be locked up for 23 hours a day, given little food and water and have to undergo military style training to teach them some bloody respect.

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:18 am

balkanblue wrote:Terrible idea. Why should criminals who cant abide by the rules of society be allowed back out to work in society and earn money as well? They should be locked up for 23 hours a day, given little food and water and have to undergo military style training to teach them some bloody respect.



Or give them a chance at rehabilitation and to get some invaluable skills that they could use on their release.
Locking people up and throwing away the key just means more neglect, which is many cases is the reason they are there or will reoffend.
Some crimes yeah maybe, but not everyone in prison is a rapist or murderer.

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:57 pm

Them Russian prisons are fuking brutal (black dolphin) probably the worst of them. You have to be incredibly stupid or extremely desperate to Break the law in that country knowing what's waiting for you if you get caught lol I wouldn't wish one of them prisons on my worst enemy. If the UK took a leaf out of their book and made our prisons with similar regimes, in willing to bet you'd see a huge drop in crime overnight. All these repeat offenders would soon straighten themselves out

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:13 pm

unless you are a construction worker, who now loses his job as he can't compete with cheap prison labour.

which is why it should never happen. it pleases right wing people who want prisoners to work for slave / very low wages but puts people out of jobs.

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:11 pm

nubbsy wrote:
balkanblue wrote:Terrible idea. Why should criminals who cant abide by the rules of society be allowed back out to work in society and earn money as well? They should be locked up for 23 hours a day, given little food and water and have to undergo military style training to teach them some bloody respect.



Or give them a chance at rehabilitation and to get some invaluable skills that they could use on their release.
Locking people up and throwing away the key just means more neglect, which is many cases is the reason they are there or will reoffend.
Some crimes yeah maybe, but not everyone in prison is a rapist or murderer.

They had their chance the first time. They broke the law. They made their bed now let them lay in it.

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:11 pm

mr'mogreenz wrote:Them Russian prisons are fuking brutal (black dolphin) probably the worst of them. You have to be incredibly stupid or extremely desperate to Break the law in that country knowing what's waiting for you if you get caught lol I wouldn't wish one of them prisons on my worst enemy. If the UK took a leaf out of their book and made our prisons with similar regimes, in willing to bet you'd see a huge drop in crime overnight. All these repeat offenders would soon straighten themselves out

Not all Russian prisons are like that.

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:17 pm

balkanblue wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
balkanblue wrote:Terrible idea. Why should criminals who cant abide by the rules of society be allowed back out to work in society and earn money as well? They should be locked up for 23 hours a day, given little food and water and have to undergo military style training to teach them some bloody respect.



Or give them a chance at rehabilitation and to get some invaluable skills that they could use on their release.
Locking people up and throwing away the key just means more neglect, which is many cases is the reason they are there or will reoffend.
Some crimes yeah maybe, but not everyone in prison is a rapist or murderer.

They had their chance the first time. They broke the law. They made their bed now let them lay in it.




You obviously don't believe in second chances, you must be a saint.

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:25 pm

nubbsy wrote:You obviously don't believe in second chances

I don't.

you must be a saint.

I am.

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:31 pm

SwampCCFC wrote:unless you are a construction worker, who now loses his job as he can't compete with cheap prison labour.

which is why it should never happen. it pleases right wing people who want prisoners to work for slave / very low wages but puts people out of jobs.


This is the catch 22 situation.

We could clean up our roads and other areas using prison labour. Most would live with that. The problem is how far do we go. What other jobs would they take so those in power can gain.

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Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:00 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:We could clean up our roads and other areas using prison labour. Most would live with that. The problem is how far do we go. What other jobs would they take so those in power can gain.

Get them to fill potholes. There's lots of them in the UK and those responsible for repairing them do not do it quick enough.

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Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:25 pm

balkanblue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:We could clean up our roads and other areas using prison labour. Most would live with that. The problem is how far do we go. What other jobs would they take so those in power can gain.

Get them to fill potholes. There's lots of them in the UK and those responsible for repairing them do not do it quick enough.


And don't have the money thanks to the amazing cuts

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:14 pm

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
balkanblue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:We could clean up our roads and other areas using prison labour. Most would live with that. The problem is how far do we go. What other jobs would they take so those in power can gain.

Get them to fill potholes. There's lots of them in the UK and those responsible for repairing them do not do it quick enough.


And don't have the money thanks to the amazing cuts


Using prisoners would SAVE money rather than using council staff or contractors ?

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:31 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
balkanblue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:We could clean up our roads and other areas using prison labour. Most would live with that. The problem is how far do we go. What other jobs would they take so those in power can gain.

Get them to fill potholes. There's lots of them in the UK and those responsible for repairing them do not do it quick enough.


And don't have the money thanks to the amazing cuts


Using prisoners would SAVE money rather than using council staff or contractors ?

or rip off agencies

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:33 pm

Yeah well it's all good for the taxpayer then

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Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:43 pm

Military Junta wrote:Yeah well it's all good for the taxpayer then

how's it saving taxpayers

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Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:58 pm

laws88 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Yeah well it's all good for the taxpayer then

how's it saving taxpayers


Are you seriously asking me this question ? Cheaper labour on state projects mean that the price of the project which is paid for by the taxpayer is cheaper!!

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:20 pm

If we get prisoners out of thier cells and learning a trade while out grafting in the day, then it will save us a fortune in the long run. Not saying all prisoners. Just the little kunt repeat offender drugged up liitle cretin type short stay fukers......like I was lol. I turned my own corner after a decent sentence, but surely there is a better option than locking these little kunts up time and time again. It does no fuking good. I aint no (give a hoodie a hug) type. But locking them up, and doing fukall with them when they're locked up ain't doing anyone any good. All these education type courses in prison are a load of bollox. Get them out grafting in the day that's what they need.

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:34 pm

SAME LINE OF WORK YOU DO, CHEAP LABOUR, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE POOR, BUT IT PAYS YOUR MORGAGE :oops:

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:36 pm

ninianblue wrote:SAME LINE OF WORK YOU DO, CHEAP LABOUR, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE POOR, BUT IT PAYS YOUR MORGAGE :oops:


The difference is that the prisoners have no choice whereas people who don't have to work for me don't

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:52 pm

your employing desperate people who want to work, and make a life for them and there families, but you degrade them and take advantage of them by paying a non living wage 6 pound an hour odd , its slavery, and how much do you charge the companies for there service, i repeat its slavery, and people like you make a living from the desperate

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:54 pm

ninianblue wrote:your employing desperate people who want to work, and make a life for them and there families, but you degrade them and take advantage of them by paying a non living wage 6 pound an hour odd , its slavery, and how much do you charge the companies for there service, i repeat its slavery, and people like you make a living from the desperate


You clearly haven't got a clue. Do you know in construction the vast amount of trades actually use agencies to fill in gaps between their private work ? In haulage many agency drivers actually earn more than employed people working for the same firm ?

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:02 pm

i understand that supply teachers etc earn more than teachers in a year etc, but thats not what you advertise, you are at the bottom end of the job market, laboures etc, low pay jobs

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:05 pm

ninianblue wrote:i understand that supply teachers etc earn more than teachers in a year etc, but thats not what you advertise, you are at the bottom end of the job market, laboures etc, low pay jobs


No I don't, I also supply HGV drivers, construction trades and many other higher scale jobs but I put the lower positions on here because Believe it or not I have always kept my word that I will advertise work on here fire t before anywhere else to help fellow posters

Re: Russians use prisoners to bring World Cup in under budge

Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:15 pm

balkanblue wrote:Terrible idea. Why should criminals who cant abide by the rules of society be allowed back out to work in society and earn money as well? They should be locked up for 23 hours a day, given little food and water and have to undergo military style training to teach them some bloody respect.

Somehow I don't think old Putin will pay em so much as one Rubble