Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:16 pm
Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:27 pm
Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:05 pm
Sneggyblubird wrote:Que,sera,sera
nothing unusual about it or is this another dig at slade/club, as seems to be trend lately to blame everyone except player? Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:29 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:Que,sera,sera
99.9% of players who leave any club its because a manager didnt want them!nothing unusual about it or is this another dig at slade/club, as seems to be trend lately to blame everyone except player?
Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:00 pm
Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:01 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:Que,sera,sera
99.9% of players who leave any club its because a manager didnt want them!nothing unusual about it or is this another dig at slade/club, as seems to be trend lately to blame everyone except player?
Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:17 pm
Turk-Bluebird! wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:Que,sera,sera
99.9% of players who leave any club its because a manager didnt want them!nothing unusual about it or is this another dig at slade/club, as seems to be trend lately to blame everyone except player?
I don't understand why most people blame salads and the club for people moving on. If you look at what most of the players who have left within the last year, I can't think of any that have made us all be in awe of them playing for us. Obviously the players who left for bigger clubs like Mutch, Campbell and Medel deserved a better club. But why people keep saying ALF and Guerra have been treated badly I don't understand it. They've both shown they have class at other clubs but obviously they are not setting the world on fire with us. ALF was very poor every time he played for us. And Guerra wasn't even given a chance under OGS who signed him. And with Adeyemi he wasn't exactly playing well in the numerous games he had for us.
Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:21 pm
City Slicker wrote:Turk-Bluebird! wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:Que,sera,sera
99.9% of players who leave any club its because a manager didnt want them!nothing unusual about it or is this another dig at slade/club, as seems to be trend lately to blame everyone except player?
I don't understand why most people blame salads and the club for people moving on. If you look at what most of the players who have left within the last year, I can't think of any that have made us all be in awe of them playing for us. Obviously the players who left for bigger clubs like Mutch, Campbell and Medel deserved a better club. But why people keep saying ALF and Guerra have been treated badly I don't understand it. They've both shown they have class at other clubs but obviously they are not setting the world on fire with us. ALF was very poor every time he played for us. And Guerra wasn't even given a chance under OGS who signed him. And with Adeyemi he wasn't exactly playing well in the numerous games he had for us.
Salads can be blamed for lack of energy. In this case, Russell Salad can be blamed for being thick
Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:28 pm
Turk-Bluebird! wrote:City Slicker wrote:Turk-Bluebird! wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:Que,sera,sera
99.9% of players who leave any club its because a manager didnt want them!nothing unusual about it or is this another dig at slade/club, as seems to be trend lately to blame everyone except player?
I don't understand why most people blame salads and the club for people moving on. If you look at what most of the players who have left within the last year, I can't think of any that have made us all be in awe of them playing for us. Obviously the players who left for bigger clubs like Mutch, Campbell and Medel deserved a better club. But why people keep saying ALF and Guerra have been treated badly I don't understand it. They've both shown they have class at other clubs but obviously they are not setting the world on fire with us. ALF was very poor every time he played for us. And Guerra wasn't even given a chance under OGS who signed him. And with Adeyemi he wasn't exactly playing well in the numerous games he had for us.
Salads can be blamed for lack of energy. In this case, Russell Salad can be blamed for being thick
Haha I was waiting for that, I tried to edit it but I didn't have the option to.
Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:58 am
Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:05 am
Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:56 pm
SwampCCFC wrote:to be fair, i can't disagree with slade's assessment of adeyemi as a player that we could do without. he was average here and so forgettable that i still don't know what his strengths are.
maybe he can start putting a shift in on loan and come back into our team next season or get a move to another club.
Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:23 pm
2blue2handle wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:to be fair, i can't disagree with slade's assessment of adeyemi as a player that we could do without. he was average here and so forgettable that i still don't know what his strengths are.
maybe he can start putting a shift in on loan and come back into our team next season or get a move to another club.
Probably because he has had limited game time.
I think he would have been ideal for us, fully expect him to do well at Leeds this season.
I thought he was supposed to be injuredjust frozen out
Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:27 pm
City Slicker wrote:2blue2handle wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:to be fair, i can't disagree with slade's assessment of adeyemi as a player that we could do without. he was average here and so forgettable that i still don't know what his strengths are.
maybe he can start putting a shift in on loan and come back into our team next season or get a move to another club.
Probably because he has had limited game time.
I think he would have been ideal for us, fully expect him to do well at Leeds this season.
I thought he was supposed to be injuredjust frozen out
Exactly! He was much better than people make out and he was slotted into a poor midfield so was on the back foot constantly. On top of that he wasnt given enough game time. He is exactly what we need backed up by a talented Midfield General. He was the right age too. Instead we let him go and keep other ineffective players at the fag end of their career. You couldn't make it up!
Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:35 pm
Turk-Bluebird! wrote:City Slicker wrote:2blue2handle wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:to be fair, i can't disagree with slade's assessment of adeyemi as a player that we could do without. he was average here and so forgettable that i still don't know what his strengths are.
maybe he can start putting a shift in on loan and come back into our team next season or get a move to another club.
Probably because he has had limited game time.
I think he would have been ideal for us, fully expect him to do well at Leeds this season.
I thought he was supposed to be injuredjust frozen out
Exactly! He was much better than people make out and he was slotted into a poor midfield so was on the back foot constantly. On top of that he wasnt given enough game time. He is exactly what we need backed up by a talented Midfield General. He was the right age too. Instead we let him go and keep other ineffective players at the fag end of their career. You couldn't make it up!
You say that we were a poor midfield but if he was playing centrally in that then he is a big factor of it being poor. The season we go promoted we had Whittingham and Gunnar in the middle of the park so it wasn't that poor a midfield. What did Adeyemi show us last year to back up your comments? If we had a manager people liked this would be seen as a cracking loan because he will be playing football and he wouldn't get much in our team. He will never be a starter in front of Whittingham, Gunnarson and now Ralls.
Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:41 pm
City Slicker wrote:Turk-Bluebird! wrote:City Slicker wrote:2blue2handle wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:to be fair, i can't disagree with slade's assessment of adeyemi as a player that we could do without. he was average here and so forgettable that i still don't know what his strengths are.
maybe he can start putting a shift in on loan and come back into our team next season or get a move to another club.
Probably because he has had limited game time.
I think he would have been ideal for us, fully expect him to do well at Leeds this season.
I thought he was supposed to be injuredjust frozen out
Exactly! He was much better than people make out and he was slotted into a poor midfield so was on the back foot constantly. On top of that he wasnt given enough game time. He is exactly what we need backed up by a talented Midfield General. He was the right age too. Instead we let him go and keep other ineffective players at the fag end of their career. You couldn't make it up!
You say that we were a poor midfield but if he was playing centrally in that then he is a big factor of it being poor. The season we go promoted we had Whittingham and Gunnar in the middle of the park so it wasn't that poor a midfield. What did Adeyemi show us last year to back up your comments? If we had a manager people liked this would be seen as a cracking loan because he will be playing football and he wouldn't get much in our team. He will never be a starter in front of Whittingham, Gunnarson and now Ralls.
Turk,
a) He wasn't playing regularly, he was a bit part figure hauled on as sub more often than not. Usually when on he was just clearing up other peoples mistakes.
b) Remember the Whittingham-Gunnar axis had to be disbanded during the promotion season otherwise we would not have got over the line.
c) If we had a DECENT manager that people liked this loan would never have happened.
d) Your fourth point is absolutely correct. Under Slade he would never have started. However, boy he, Gunnar and Ralls would have been one hell of a midfield. Sadly we can only dream about what might have been
Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:46 pm
Turk-Bluebird! wrote:City Slicker wrote:Turk-Bluebird! wrote:City Slicker wrote:2blue2handle wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:to be fair, i can't disagree with slade's assessment of adeyemi as a player that we could do without. he was average here and so forgettable that i still don't know what his strengths are.
maybe he can start putting a shift in on loan and come back into our team next season or get a move to another club.
Probably because he has had limited game time.
I think he would have been ideal for us, fully expect him to do well at Leeds this season.
I thought he was supposed to be injuredjust frozen out
Exactly! He was much better than people make out and he was slotted into a poor midfield so was on the back foot constantly. On top of that he wasnt given enough game time. He is exactly what we need backed up by a talented Midfield General. He was the right age too. Instead we let him go and keep other ineffective players at the fag end of their career. You couldn't make it up!
You say that we were a poor midfield but if he was playing centrally in that then he is a big factor of it being poor. The season we go promoted we had Whittingham and Gunnar in the middle of the park so it wasn't that poor a midfield. What did Adeyemi show us last year to back up your comments? If we had a manager people liked this would be seen as a cracking loan because he will be playing football and he wouldn't get much in our team. He will never be a starter in front of Whittingham, Gunnarson and now Ralls.
Turk,
a) He wasn't playing regularly, he was a bit part figure hauled on as sub more often than not. Usually when on he was just clearing up other peoples mistakes.
b) Remember the Whittingham-Gunnar axis had to be disbanded during the promotion season otherwise we would not have got over the line.
c) If we had a DECENT manager that people liked this loan would never have happened.
d) Your fourth point is absolutely correct. Under Slade he would never have started. However, boy he, Gunnar and Ralls would have been one hell of a midfield. Sadly we can only dream about what might have been
But like you said he was a bit part player under two managers, yes injury hampered him at times but even fully fit he didn't do anything. His distribution of the ball was league 2 standard at times. And regardless of fitness you never lose your ability of passing. Their partnership got broken up at the end yes because Whittz was struggling for form but it's still what got us into the position for promotion. I hope Tom does go on and prove me wrong this year as he is still technically a Cardiff player, but I can't see it personally. The thing that annoys me is people try and use this to get on Slade's back which is just ridiculous.
Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:52 pm
City Slicker wrote:Turk-Bluebird! wrote:City Slicker wrote:Turk-Bluebird! wrote:City Slicker wrote:2blue2handle wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:to be fair, i can't disagree with slade's assessment of adeyemi as a player that we could do without. he was average here and so forgettable that i still don't know what his strengths are.
maybe he can start putting a shift in on loan and come back into our team next season or get a move to another club.
Probably because he has had limited game time.
I think he would have been ideal for us, fully expect him to do well at Leeds this season.
I thought he was supposed to be injuredjust frozen out
Exactly! He was much better than people make out and he was slotted into a poor midfield so was on the back foot constantly. On top of that he wasnt given enough game time. He is exactly what we need backed up by a talented Midfield General. He was the right age too. Instead we let him go and keep other ineffective players at the fag end of their career. You couldn't make it up!
You say that we were a poor midfield but if he was playing centrally in that then he is a big factor of it being poor. The season we go promoted we had Whittingham and Gunnar in the middle of the park so it wasn't that poor a midfield. What did Adeyemi show us last year to back up your comments? If we had a manager people liked this would be seen as a cracking loan because he will be playing football and he wouldn't get much in our team. He will never be a starter in front of Whittingham, Gunnarson and now Ralls.
Turk,
a) He wasn't playing regularly, he was a bit part figure hauled on as sub more often than not. Usually when on he was just clearing up other peoples mistakes.
b) Remember the Whittingham-Gunnar axis had to be disbanded during the promotion season otherwise we would not have got over the line.
c) If we had a DECENT manager that people liked this loan would never have happened.
d) Your fourth point is absolutely correct. Under Slade he would never have started. However, boy he, Gunnar and Ralls would have been one hell of a midfield. Sadly we can only dream about what might have been
But like you said he was a bit part player under two managers, yes injury hampered him at times but even fully fit he didn't do anything. His distribution of the ball was league 2 standard at times. And regardless of fitness you never lose your ability of passing. Their partnership got broken up at the end yes because Whittz was struggling for form but it's still what got us into the position for promotion. I hope Tom does go on and prove me wrong this year as he is still technically a Cardiff player, but I can't see it personally. The thing that annoys me is people try and use this to get on Slade's back which is just ridiculous.
Well we are obviously not going to agree on this one Turk, but I tell you what, if you had the time to spare I could find a shed full of other things to get on Slade's back apart from this idiotic decision
Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:59 pm
Turk-Bluebird! wrote:City Slicker wrote:Turk-Bluebird! wrote:City Slicker wrote:Turk-Bluebird! wrote:City Slicker wrote:2blue2handle wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:to be fair, i can't disagree with slade's assessment of adeyemi as a player that we could do without. he was average here and so forgettable that i still don't know what his strengths are.
maybe he can start putting a shift in on loan and come back into our team next season or get a move to another club.
Probably because he has had limited game time.
I think he would have been ideal for us, fully expect him to do well at Leeds this season.
I thought he was supposed to be injuredjust frozen out
Exactly! He was much better than people make out and he was slotted into a poor midfield so was on the back foot constantly. On top of that he wasnt given enough game time. He is exactly what we need backed up by a talented Midfield General. He was the right age too. Instead we let him go and keep other ineffective players at the fag end of their career. You couldn't make it up!
You say that we were a poor midfield but if he was playing centrally in that then he is a big factor of it being poor. The season we go promoted we had Whittingham and Gunnar in the middle of the park so it wasn't that poor a midfield. What did Adeyemi show us last year to back up your comments? If we had a manager people liked this would be seen as a cracking loan because he will be playing football and he wouldn't get much in our team. He will never be a starter in front of Whittingham, Gunnarson and now Ralls.
Turk,
a) He wasn't playing regularly, he was a bit part figure hauled on as sub more often than not. Usually when on he was just clearing up other peoples mistakes.
b) Remember the Whittingham-Gunnar axis had to be disbanded during the promotion season otherwise we would not have got over the line.
c) If we had a DECENT manager that people liked this loan would never have happened.
d) Your fourth point is absolutely correct. Under Slade he would never have started. However, boy he, Gunnar and Ralls would have been one hell of a midfield. Sadly we can only dream about what might have been
But like you said he was a bit part player under two managers, yes injury hampered him at times but even fully fit he didn't do anything. His distribution of the ball was league 2 standard at times. And regardless of fitness you never lose your ability of passing. Their partnership got broken up at the end yes because Whittz was struggling for form but it's still what got us into the position for promotion. I hope Tom does go on and prove me wrong this year as he is still technically a Cardiff player, but I can't see it personally. The thing that annoys me is people try and use this to get on Slade's back which is just ridiculous.
Well we are obviously not going to agree on this one Turk, but I tell you what, if you had the time to spare I could find a shed full of other things to get on Slade's back apart from this idiotic decision
Well fair enough, but how about just letting the results do the talking from now on. If he fails then you were right to feel like this, but I just see this season as a fresh start and a clean slate for slade to prove what he can do.
Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:49 pm
Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:33 pm
City Slicker wrote:2blue2handle wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:to be fair, i can't disagree with slade's assessment of adeyemi as a player that we could do without. he was average here and so forgettable that i still don't know what his strengths are.
maybe he can start putting a shift in on loan and come back into our team next season or get a move to another club.
Probably because he has had limited game time.
I think he would have been ideal for us, fully expect him to do well at Leeds this season.
I thought he was supposed to be injuredjust frozen out
Exactly! He was much better than people make out and he was slotted into a poor midfield so was on the back foot constantly. On top of that he wasnt given enough game time. He is exactly what we need backed up by a talented Midfield General. He was the right age too. Instead we let him go and keep other ineffective players at the fag end of their career. You couldn't make it up!
Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:28 am
Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:37 pm