Why Cardiff are right to do so in their new transfer set-up

It’s getting towards the end of July and Cardiff have only made two signings.

One with any actual meaning. That player comes in the form of Newcastle wide-man Sammy Ameobi, on a season-long loan deal. The only other deal to note is signing former Arsenal man Semi Ajaji to a permanent deal after his loan spell after his stint in the developmental squad.

Before pre-season had even begun, the Bluebirds faithful ancipated a flury of departures were to come. Surprisingly, or maybe unsuprisingly, that is not the case. Russell Slade still has a lot of options to choose from. Before Slade had arrived, the club had continue to throw around money at anyone and anything. Previous managers Malky Mackay and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer seemed to have an open cheque book and owner Vincent Tan decided it had to stop.

During the season of 2011/2012, the club generated a profit of £251k on players, the following season Cardiff lost £345k, then in the season of 2013/2014, the club made a loss of £5m on player sales. Understandably, we will generate a profit from our sales after we were relegated from the Premier League. But that begs the case. What if wages are more important than just player sales in this case? In our promotion winning season, we spent £32.8m on wages, whilst Crystal Palace who have consolidated themselves in the Premier League by only paying £18.8m in that season. In our debt Premier League season, the wage bill was the 18th highest, £53m (up from £33m in 2013). The financial figures for last season are yet to come in but we will see not much of a change.

Solskjaer used the parachute payments and the money generated via player sales to bring in his own players. Although we generated money due to player sales, we did not sell as many players as we should have done. Solskjaer’s time as manager here is not to be remembered and the only thing that he is remembered by is how careless he was in squad management. At one point there were fourty players on the books here. His tenure came to an abrupt end in September and he was replaced by lower-league mogul Russell Slade. Slade immediately had his favourites and hung out to dry most purchases made by Solskjaer. The club acheived a top half finish, sixteen points off an expected play-off spot but managed to slash the wage-bill by £12m.

Slade has not been popular with many Cardiff fans, I myself have criticised his decisions but it’s time the Welsh capital gets behind him and understands that this is not a quick-fix and that we will have to go a few steps backwards to get back to where we belong. There is still plenty of work to be done to Russell Slade’s Cardiff side, slashing the wage budget even more is one of those missions. We have opted to pay off/come to a mutual agreement to cancel the contracts of some of our players rather than wait to sell them. Some would question this motive, but if they aren’t playing then their stock isn’t going to be very high. I would like to see us try to get any kind of transfer fee on our players though as it can go towards a kitty for Slade.

During the Dave Jones era, our transfer set-up would be to bring in players for cheap-fees and cheap wages and sell them off, with a few youth academy products being brought in, only to be sold to sides who trumped up with the cash. If you added the original fees of strikers Jay Bothroyd and Michael Chopra, it would come to only £750k, proving that you don’t have to spend big to get goals! I would like to see us go down that route again, at the moment we are edging towards that but not giving enough chances to youth academy products, with local boy Declan John who has Premier League experience under his belt, being shipped out on loan. Slade’s signings have been very astute, whilst none have set the world alight, they are signings that gives Bluebirds fans optimism.

Matthew Kennedy, arguably the best purchase under Slade, a cheap purchase from Everton has allowed Bluebirds fans to get rid of the old in Craig Noone and cry out for a chance for Kennedy to feature. Eoin Doyle who was the League One top goalscorer last season before his £950k move to the Bluebirds in January is another signing who may prove to be what the Bluebirds need. Scott Malone, Lee Peltier, Stuart O’Keefe and Alex Revell were all bought for just over £500k, showing that we can get quality for a very cheap price. The way Cardiff are now conducting their transfer business is right. Although flawed in some ways due to the fact we aren’t receiving as much in transfer fees, we are bringing in players who want to play for this football club, not for the money but for the opportunity to don the blue shirt and run out to the adoring Cardiff faithful.

Best of luck for this season to Russ and the lads, I don’t really have any set expectations but I’d love to be surprised, the sense of unity around the place during pre-season may surprise us! Long live the days of bargain buys!

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Spot on just our fans think we should be competing with premier league teams when we are far from it,if we finish top 6 then we will have done fantastic,on average it takes teams around 6 yrs to get back up so why our fans think we should be splashing cash on managers and big waged players,some of our fans need a reality check

How do you know Kennedy was cheap ? that is just assumption and guess work

How do you know Kennedy was cheap ? that is just assumption and guess work

Wasn't anything over £250k

It’s getting towards the end of July and Cardiff have only made two signings, one with any actual meaning. That player comes in the form of Newcastle wide-man Sammy Ameobi, on a season-long loan deal. The only other deal to note is signing former Arsenal man Semi Ajaji to a permanent deal after his loan spell after his stint in the developmental squad.

Before pre-season had even begun, the Bluebirds faithful ancipated a flury of departures were to come. Surprisingly, or maybe unsuprisingly, that is not the case. Russell Slade still has a lot of options to choose from. Before Slade had arrived, the club had continue to throw around money at anyone and anything. Previous managers Malky Mackay and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer seemed to have an open cheque book and owner Vincent Tan decided it had to stop.

During the season of 2011/2012, the club generated a profit of £251k on players, the following season Cardiff lost £345k, then in the season of 2013/2014, the club made a loss of £5m on player sales. Understandably, we will generate a profit from our sales after we were relegated from the Premier League. But that begs the case. What if wages are more important than just player sales in this case? In our promotion winning season, we spent £32.8m on wages, whilst Crystal Palace who have consolidated themselves in the Premier League by only paying £18.8m in that season. In our debt Premier League season, the wage bill was the 18th highest, £53m (up from £33m in 2013). The financial figures for last season are yet to come in but we will see not much of a change.

Solskjaer used the parachute payments and the money generated via player sales to bring in his own players. Although we generated money due to player sales, we did not sell as many players as we should have done. Solskjaer’s time as manager here is not to be remembered and the only thing that he is remembered by is how careless he was in squad management. At one point there were fourty players on the books here. His tenure came to an abrupt end in September and he was replaced by lower-league mogul Russell Slade. Slade immediately had his favourites and hung out to dry most purchases made by Solskjaer. The club acheived a top half finish, sixteen points off an expected play-off spot but managed to slash the wage-bill by £12m.

Slade has not been popular with many Cardiff fans, I myself have criticised his decisions but it’s time the Welsh capital gets behind him and understands that this is not a quick-fix and that we will have to go a few steps backwards to get back to where we belong. There is still plenty of work to be done to Russell Slade’s Cardiff side, slashing the wage budget even more is one of those missions. We have opted to pay off/come to a mutual agreement to cancel the contracts of some of our players rather than wait to sell them. Some would question this motive, but if they aren’t playing then their stock isn’t going to be very high. I would like to see us try to get any kind of transfer fee on our players though as it can go towards a kitty for Slade.

During the Dave Jones era, our transfer set-up would be to bring in players for cheap-fees and cheap wages and sell them off, with a few youth academy products being brought in, only to be sold to sides who trumped up with the cash. If you added the original fees of strikers Jay Bothroyd and Michael Chopra, it would come to only £750k, proving that you don’t have to spend big to get goals! I would like to see us go down that route again, at the moment we are edging towards that but not giving enough chances to youth academy products, with local boy Declan John who has Premier League experience under his belt, being shipped out on loan. Slade’s signings have been very astute, whilst none have set the world alight, they are signings that gives Bluebirds fans optimism.

Matthew Kennedy, arguably the best purchase under Slade, a cheap purchase from Everton has allowed Bluebirds fans to get rid of the old in Craig Noone and cry out for a chance for Kennedy to feature. Eoin Doyle who was the League One top goalscorer last season before his £950k move to the Bluebirds in January is another signing who may prove to be what the Bluebirds need. Scott Malone, Lee Peltier, Stuart O’Keefe and Alex Revell were all bought for just over £500k, showing that we can get quality for a very cheap price. The way Cardiff are now conducting their transfer business is right. Although flawed in some ways due to the fact we aren’t receiving as much in transfer fees, we are bringing in players who want to play for this football club, not for the money but for the opportunity to don the blue shirt and run out to the adoring Cardiff faithful.

Best of luck for this season to Russ and the lads, I don’t really have any set expectations but I’d love to be surprised, the sense of unity around the place during pre-season may surprise us! Long live the days of bargain buys!

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top post got to agree 100% some of our new / young fans have no idea really been spoilt recently and play on computer games and think they know all about running a football club
need to get real imo

Why is this not a sticky hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Why is this not a sticky hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Deserves to be... Done

Why is this not a sticky hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Deserves to be... Done

Why is this not a sticky hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Deserves to be... Done

Diolch yn fawr!

It’s getting towards the end of July and Cardiff have only made two signings, one with any actual meaning. That player comes in the form of Newcastle wide-man Sammy Ameobi, on a season-long loan deal. The only other deal to note is signing former Arsenal man Semi Ajaji to a permanent deal after his loan spell after his stint in the developmental squad.

Before pre-season had even begun, the Bluebirds faithful ancipated a flury of departures were to come. Surprisingly, or maybe unsuprisingly, that is not the case. Russell Slade still has a lot of options to choose from. Before Slade had arrived, the club had continue to throw around money at anyone and anything. Previous managers Malky Mackay and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer seemed to have an open cheque book and owner Vincent Tan decided it had to stop.

During the season of 2011/2012, the club generated a profit of £251k on players, the following season Cardiff lost £345k, then in the season of 2013/2014, the club made a loss of £5m on player sales. Understandably, we will generate a profit from our sales after we were relegated from the Premier League. But that begs the case. What if wages are more important than just player sales in this case? In our promotion winning season, we spent £32.8m on wages, whilst Crystal Palace who have consolidated themselves in the Premier League by only paying £18.8m in that season. In our debt Premier League season, the wage bill was the 18th highest, £53m (up from £33m in 2013). The financial figures for last season are yet to come in but we will see not much of a change.

Solskjaer used the parachute payments and the money generated via player sales to bring in his own players. Although we generated money due to player sales, we did not sell as many players as we should have done. Solskjaer’s time as manager here is not to be remembered and the only thing that he is remembered by is how careless he was in squad management. At one point there were fourty players on the books here. His tenure came to an abrupt end in September and he was replaced by lower-league mogul Russell Slade. Slade immediately had his favourites and hung out to dry most purchases made by Solskjaer. The club acheived a top half finish, sixteen points off an expected play-off spot but managed to slash the wage-bill by £12m.

Slade has not been popular with many Cardiff fans, I myself have criticised his decisions but it’s time the Welsh capital gets behind him and understands that this is not a quick-fix and that we will have to go a few steps backwards to get back to where we belong. There is still plenty of work to be done to Russell Slade’s Cardiff side, slashing the wage budget even more is one of those missions. We have opted to pay off/come to a mutual agreement to cancel the contracts of some of our players rather than wait to sell them. Some would question this motive, but if they aren’t playing then their stock isn’t going to be very high. I would like to see us try to get any kind of transfer fee on our players though as it can go towards a kitty for Slade.

During the Dave Jones era, our transfer set-up would be to bring in players for cheap-fees and cheap wages and sell them off, with a few youth academy products being brought in, only to be sold to sides who trumped up with the cash. If you added the original fees of strikers Jay Bothroyd and Michael Chopra, it would come to only £750k, proving that you don’t have to spend big to get goals! I would like to see us go down that route again, at the moment we are edging towards that but not giving enough chances to youth academy products, with local boy Declan John who has Premier League experience under his belt, being shipped out on loan. Slade’s signings have been very astute, whilst none have set the world alight, they are signings that gives Bluebirds fans optimism.

Matthew Kennedy, arguably the best purchase under Slade, a cheap purchase from Everton has allowed Bluebirds fans to get rid of the old in Craig Noone and cry out for a chance for Kennedy to feature. Eoin Doyle who was the League One top goalscorer last season before his £950k move to the Bluebirds in January is another signing who may prove to be what the Bluebirds need. Scott Malone, Lee Peltier, Stuart O’Keefe and Alex Revell were all bought for just over £500k, showing that we can get quality for a very cheap price. The way Cardiff are now conducting their transfer business is right. Although flawed in some ways due to the fact we aren’t receiving as much in transfer fees, we are bringing in players who want to play for this football club, not for the money but for the opportunity to don the blue shirt and run out to the adoring Cardiff faithful.

Best of luck for this season to Russ and the lads, I don’t really have any set expectations but I’d love to be surprised, the sense of unity around the place during pre-season may surprise us! Long live the days of bargain buys!

http://thefootydiary.co.uk/2015/07/22/w ... er-set-up/

top post got to agree 100% some of our new / young fans have no idea really been spoilt recently and play on computer games and think they know all about running a football club
need to get real imo

Couldn't have said it better

It’s getting towards the end of July and Cardiff have only made two signings.

One with any actual meaning. That player comes in the form of Newcastle wide-man Sammy Ameobi, on a season-long loan deal. The only other deal to note is signing former Arsenal man Semi Ajaji to a permanent deal after his loan spell after his stint in the developmental squad.

Before pre-season had even begun, the Bluebirds faithful ancipated a flury of departures were to come. Surprisingly, or maybe unsuprisingly, that is not the case. Russell Slade still has a lot of options to choose from. Before Slade had arrived, the club had continue to throw around money at anyone and anything. Previous managers Malky Mackay and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer seemed to have an open cheque book and owner Vincent Tan decided it had to stop.

During the season of 2011/2012, the club generated a profit of £251k on players, the following season Cardiff lost £345k, then in the season of 2013/2014, the club made a loss of £5m on player sales. Understandably, we will generate a profit from our sales after we were relegated from the Premier League. But that begs the case. What if wages are more important than just player sales in this case? In our promotion winning season, we spent £32.8m on wages, whilst Crystal Palace who have consolidated themselves in the Premier League by only paying £18.8m in that season. In our debt Premier League season, the wage bill was the 18th highest, £53m (up from £33m in 2013). The financial figures for last season are yet to come in but we will see not much of a change.

Solskjaer used the parachute payments and the money generated via player sales to bring in his own players. Although we generated money due to player sales, we did not sell as many players as we should have done. Solskjaer’s time as manager here is not to be remembered and the only thing that he is remembered by is how careless he was in squad management. At one point there were fourty players on the books here. His tenure came to an abrupt end in September and he was replaced by lower-league mogul Russell Slade. Slade immediately had his favourites and hung out to dry most purchases made by Solskjaer. The club acheived a top half finish, sixteen points off an expected play-off spot but managed to slash the wage-bill by £12m.

Slade has not been popular with many Cardiff fans, I myself have criticised his decisions but it’s time the Welsh capital gets behind him and understands that this is not a quick-fix and that we will have to go a few steps backwards to get back to where we belong. There is still plenty of work to be done to Russell Slade’s Cardiff side, slashing the wage budget even more is one of those missions. We have opted to pay off/come to a mutual agreement to cancel the contracts of some of our players rather than wait to sell them. Some would question this motive, but if they aren’t playing then their stock isn’t going to be very high. I would like to see us try to get any kind of transfer fee on our players though as it can go towards a kitty for Slade.

During the Dave Jones era, our transfer set-up would be to bring in players for cheap-fees and cheap wages and sell them off, with a few youth academy products being brought in, only to be sold to sides who trumped up with the cash. If you added the original fees of strikers Jay Bothroyd and Michael Chopra, it would come to only £750k, proving that you don’t have to spend big to get goals! I would like to see us go down that route again, at the moment we are edging towards that but not giving enough chances to youth academy products, with local boy Declan John who has Premier League experience under his belt, being shipped out on loan. Slade’s signings have been very astute, whilst none have set the world alight, they are signings that gives Bluebirds fans optimism.

Matthew Kennedy, arguably the best purchase under Slade, a cheap purchase from Everton has allowed Bluebirds fans to get rid of the old in Craig Noone and cry out for a chance for Kennedy to feature. Eoin Doyle who was the League One top goalscorer last season before his £950k move to the Bluebirds in January is another signing who may prove to be what the Bluebirds need. Scott Malone, Lee Peltier, Stuart O’Keefe and Alex Revell were all bought for just over £500k, showing that we can get quality for a very cheap price. The way Cardiff are now conducting their transfer business is right. Although flawed in some ways due to the fact we aren’t receiving as much in transfer fees, we are bringing in players who want to play for this football club, not for the money but for the opportunity to don the blue shirt and run out to the adoring Cardiff faithful.

Best of luck for this season to Russ and the lads, I don’t really have any set expectations but I’d love to be surprised, the sense of unity around the place during pre-season may surprise us! Long live the days of bargain buys!

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Very well summed up!

Where have these figures come from?
If true, it puts to bed a lot of the Malky spent a fortune to get us promoted rubbish. If I read it correctly it says there was a net outlay of £345k for that season, which is nothing for a championship team, never mind one that won the league easily.
The wage bill may have been high compared to Palace but they had an established squad, based in London, good for attracting players and loanees on low wage outlay. The City wage bill almost certainly included big promotion and win bonuses as we were not expected to win the league so easily, never mind get promoted.

Also for an outlay of £33m malky got the club over £120m in PL money plus the almost £50m parachute payments.
In his first year he had 10 professional players to start and we got to the League Cup Final and the play offs, on very little outlay.

Compare that to OGS and Slade who has a big talented?? squad and yet we are no where near the play offs or likely to be.

Where have these figures come from?
If true, it puts to bed a lot of the Malky spent a fortune to get us promoted rubbish. If I read it correctly it says there was a net outlay of £345k for that season, which is nothing for a championship team, never mind one that won the league easily.
The wage bill may have been high compared to Palace but they had an established squad, based in London, good for attracting players and loanees on low wage outlay. The City wage bill almost certainly included big promotion and win bonuses as we were not expected to win the league so easily, never mind get promoted.

Also for an outlay of £33m malky got the club over £120m in PL money plus the almost £50m parachute payments.
In his first year he had 10 professional players to start and we got to the League Cup Final and the play offs, on very little outlay.

Compare that to OGS and Slade who has a big talented?? squad and yet we are no where near the play offs or likely to be.

not sure your figures are any better the 120 mill includescthe parachute payments

Those transfer figures are rubbish. We spent 12 million in the summer of 2012 and didn't sell a player, we spent 50 million the year after...

Where have these figures come from?
If true, it puts to bed a lot of the Malky spent a fortune to get us promoted rubbish. If I read it correctly it says there was a net outlay of £345k for that season, which is nothing for a championship team, never mind one that won the league easily.
The wage bill may have been high compared to Palace but they had an established squad, based in London, good for attracting players and loanees on low wage outlay. The City wage bill almost certainly included big promotion and win bonuses as we were not expected to win the league so easily, never mind get promoted.

Also for an outlay of £33m malky got the club over £120m in PL money plus the almost £50m parachute payments.
In his first year he had 10 professional players to start and we got to the League Cup Final and the play offs, on very little outlay.

Compare that to OGS and Slade who has a big talented?? squad and yet we are no where near the play offs or likely to be.

not sure your figures are any better the 120 mill includescthe parachute payments

We made a loss on player sales, £5m in the season we got promoted

Where have these figures come from?
If true, it puts to bed a lot of the Malky spent a fortune to get us promoted rubbish. If I read it correctly it says there was a net outlay of £345k for that season, which is nothing for a championship team, never mind one that won the league easily.
The wage bill may have been high compared to Palace but they had an established squad, based in London, good for attracting players and loanees on low wage outlay. The City wage bill almost certainly included big promotion and win bonuses as we were not expected to win the league so easily, never mind get promoted.

Also for an outlay of £33m malky got the club over £120m in PL money plus the almost £50m parachute payments.
In his first year he had 10 professional players to start and we got to the League Cup Final and the play offs, on very little outlay.

Compare that to OGS and Slade who has a big talented?? squad and yet we are no where near the play offs or likely to be.

Also the £33m was just on wages.