Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:23 am
Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:40 am
Davedingbluebird wrote:2 Chelsea fans involved in the France racism metro saga have been given a 5yr banning order.
Pathetic
Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:40 am
Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:31 pm
Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:48 pm
Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:56 pm
Brighton & Hove Albion wrote:Banned for 18 years.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/chelsea-paris-metro-racism-four-6113099
Only white people are racists.
Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:06 pm
Reza wrote:Brighton & Hove Albion wrote:Banned for 18 years.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/chelsea-paris-metro-racism-four-6113099
Only white people are racists.
18 yrs between them mate,its fukin disgusting they shouldnt be allowed to a match again, one of them is from over here in N.ireland and was a copper but got sacked when this story broke
Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:22 pm
Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:46 pm
Woodville Willie wrote:Not proper fans.
Not Chelsea supporters.
Just racist scum. How anyone plan say that if it was the other way round etc is beyond me!!
It's plain wrong whoever you are.
5 years is ridiculously lenient as a ban. I know fans who've been banned for 10 years plus for invading the pitch.
Let the bigoted scumbags rot I say.
Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:48 pm
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Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:39 am
Brighton & Hove Albion wrote:Woodville Willie wrote:Not proper fans.
Not Chelsea supporters.
Just racist scum. How anyone plan say that if it was the other way round etc is beyond me!!
It's plain wrong whoever you are.
5 years is ridiculously lenient as a ban. I know fans who've been banned for 10 years plus for invading the pitch.
Let the bigoted scumbags rot I say.
The march in Paris by world leaders were saying to Muslims, we'll draw cartoons and offend anyone just like Muslims do here as it's their right because we live in a democracy of freedom of speech and expression. Now what did these banned fans (in your case not) do wrong?.
Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:47 am
Brighton & Hove Albion wrote:Reza wrote:Brighton & Hove Albion wrote:Banned for 18 years.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/chelsea-paris-metro-racism-four-6113099
Only white people are racists.
18 yrs between them mate,its fukin disgusting they shouldnt be allowed to a match again, one of them is from over here in N.ireland and was a copper but got sacked when this story broke
My apologies as read it as each one was banned for 18 years so I stand corrected but a Bit harsh mate saying they shouldn't be allowed near a match again, we've all done and said silly things and regretted our actions and hindsight is a wonderful thing.How do we know all the banned people made the remarks, did they have lip readers in court, why pick on a few when the carriage had at least 50 fans in it.
I'm banned from our ground for making a racist remark and am allowed back if I sign the white paper about my future conduct which I refuse and have told the police to f**k off as signing it will make me guilty of said offence. If I had made such a remark then why didn't the police arrest me there and then?, reason is, because I never made no such remark but because who I am then they was rubbing their hands to tie me down to the white paper contract like 60 others who have signed it.
If that was a black men shouting what these people have said then you wouldn't hear about it. Racism cuts both ways for me but not for the police as they and the establishment clamp down on white people as it's political correctness, Remember the charlie hebdo in France when over a million marched to honour free speech and the world leaders apart from Obama where leading the possession, arms linked and saying free speech must always win. It seems theres double standards in this country
I could give hundreds of links to new stories where crimes against whites are not hate crimes and lenient sentences where as whites crime against them is automatictly a racist/hate crime and punishment is extreme compared to them.
Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:40 am
Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:46 am
CardiffCityBlue wrote:Let's be honest if this happened in reserve 2 black men said it to a white man nothing at all would be said
It's a fcking disgrace totally against rasicism but why is it only one way ?
Calling us sheep shaggers is just as bad as calling them something
They take it to heart we take a laugh , that doesn't mean they shouldn't get done aswel
Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:22 pm
kenbarlow wrote:CardiffCityBlue wrote:Let's be honest if this happened in reserve 2 black men said it to a white man nothing at all would be said
It's a fcking disgrace totally against rasicism but why is it only one way ?
Calling us sheep shaggers is just as bad as calling them something
They take it to heart we take a laugh , that doesn't mean they shouldn't get done aswel
i really dont get this argument (and i know its not just you saying it) - people almost seem to be excusing the chelseas fans actions with a hypothetical situation! when was the last time you saw a group of black guys not let a white person on public transport btw??
the point is no black men did say anything to a white man. and when you say 'they take it to heart' - perhaps you would too if you'd had to suffer through the mindless racism that a lot of black people were (and are still) subjected to! you only have to look at what went on in russia with frimpong - racism is alive and well still, and posts like yours do nothing to stop it. it shouldnt be a case of 'them and us'
Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:49 pm
Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:05 am
kenbarlow wrote:this is bonkers. i cant be bothered to type an essay but if you really think white people suffer similar (or worse) racism to black people then you are crazy. i'm white and have never once been racially abused, or discriminated against. bet you'd be hard pressed to find a black person who can say the same thing (apart from the bit about being white obviously)
Fri Jul 24, 2015 6:41 am
murphy wrote:kenbarlow wrote:this is bonkers. i cant be bothered to type an essay but if you really think white people suffer similar (or worse) racism to black people then you are crazy. i'm white and have never once been racially abused, or discriminated against. bet you'd be hard pressed to find a black person who can say the same thing (apart from the bit about being white obviously)
I got racially abused by a group of muslim's while walking back from a friday night game at ninian park over 10yrs ago. I think your crazy pal.
Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:22 am
kenbarlow wrote:murphy wrote:kenbarlow wrote:this is bonkers. i cant be bothered to type an essay but if you really think white people suffer similar (or worse) racism to black people then you are crazy. i'm white and have never once been racially abused, or discriminated against. bet you'd be hard pressed to find a black person who can say the same thing (apart from the bit about being white obviously)
I got racially abused by a group of muslim's while walking back from a friday night game at ninian park over 10yrs ago. I think your crazy pal.
not saying that's at all right, obviously it isnt. but the fact that you have one isolated incident from over ten years as an example does indicate that its not as commonplace. if you genuinely feel that white british people suffer racism to a similar degree as others then you're just wrong it is that simple.