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Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:14 pm

One or two more additions to what already is a good squad should be enough for us this season.

We have (so far) kept the players of importance and with a good pre season we should better last seasons poor start and I believe we will be equipped for a play off push.

Genuine supporters want the debt reduced and the wages brought into line. We are back in blue so I have every reason to be optimistic for the forthcoming season.

:sladein:

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:18 pm

Mr Ducie wrote:One or two more additions to what already is a good squad should be enough for us this season.

We have (so far) kept the players of importance and with a good pre season we should better last seasons poor start and I believe we will be equipped for a play off push.

Genuine supporters want the debt reduced and the wages brought into line. We are back in blue so I have every reason to be optimistic for the forthcoming season.

:sladein:


Totally agree,we have a very strong squad,just need a midfield general :ayatollah:

Slade now needs to show he can do it :ayatollah:

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:22 pm

Slade has a clean slate as far as I concerned. We all know what his role was last year and to be fair he accomplished that with reasonable success.

The club can't continue to bring in high transfer targets who half of the time are here for the pay cheque.

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:02 pm

To me the squad needs a total overhaul.

This nonsense about last season is gone as it was relied on Daehli and Guerra and other people not allowed to play.

I see a squad struggling badly.

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:31 pm

Bring through the youth! !! Only way forward!

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:37 pm

It should be glaringly obvious!

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:39 pm

Mr Ducie wrote:One or two more additions to what already is a good squad should be enough for us this season.

We have (so far) kept the players of importance and with a good pre season we should better last seasons poor start and I believe we will be equipped for a play off push.

Genuine supporters want the debt reduced and the wages brought into line. We are back in blue so I have every reason to be optimistic for the forthcoming season.

:sladein:


Totally disagree.

Squad needs an overhaul. Players playing on past performances and very fee successful in slades 442.

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:51 am

2blue2handle wrote:
Mr Ducie wrote:One or two more additions to what already is a good squad should be enough for us this season.

We have (so far) kept the players of importance and with a good pre season we should better last seasons poor start and I believe we will be equipped for a play off push.

Genuine supporters want the debt reduced and the wages brought into line. We are back in blue so I have every reason to be optimistic for the forthcoming season.

:sladein:


Totally disagree.

Squad needs an overhaul. Players playing on past performances and very fee successful in slades 442.


Can you point out the positions where we need a total overhaul? To do this we would have to spend big again. Now, if the fans had shown loyalty (they wanted a return to blue) and shifted 20,000 season tickets and a further 1,000 corporate seats then I think they would be justified.

As this hasn't happened why should the board sanction this policy again?

As I say most genuine supporters want to club to curb is spending and reduce the wage bill. We all want to see progression but not at the detriment of the long term future.

It appears fans on message boards want the penny and the bun. Even when we get a reasonable signing its scrutinised by so called experts.

With regards to 4 4 2, why would players feel comfortable in it. It's just a starting point that is not rigid throughout a game , it's flexible depending on the way the game is going. What's more away from home we often change it around. Why are fans so obbsessed with formation?

Football is a simple game whether it be played with a sweeper, the Christmas tree formation, or whatever.... The set up is never rigid.

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:30 am

If you look at many of the better Premiership sides all they do is add one or two players each season. Get rid of dead wood. Add a small amount of quality to an already decent side and improve year on year.

Major overhauls affect stability and it takes time for players to gel. Seems to make sense to get two really experienced players, to add to what we already have, to improve the squad without negatively affecting it.

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:36 am

Mr Ducie wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Mr Ducie wrote:One or two more additions to what already is a good squad should be enough for us this season.

We have (so far) kept the players of importance and with a good pre season we should better last seasons poor start and I believe we will be equipped for a play off push.

Genuine supporters want the debt reduced and the wages brought into line. We are back in blue so I have every reason to be optimistic for the forthcoming season.

:sladein:


Totally disagree.

Squad needs an overhaul. Players playing on past performances and very fee successful in slades 442.





I would say that it is having a happy balance. I consider that our current squad is not good enough for promotion and we need the addition of 3/4 quality players to push on. With regards to the fans, many thousands of ST holders have not renewed (I am not one) because of the dire, boring football played under Slade in the second half of the season. People work hard to get their money so why throw it away on something they don't enjoy? It surprises me how many fans think we can get promoted with more or less the same players & manager. Were they watching the football being played week in week out?

The club have re iterated their desire to get back into the Premier League but unfortunately their actions do not support that statement. Yes, the purse strings needed to be tightened but bearing in mind that we are still on parachute payments the club spent very little in January and not a single penny on transfer fees this transfer window ( to date). To me that does not show ambition. If the club do want promotion I suggest that we need to invest at full back, central midfield and a proven goal scorer particularly when the club are trying to offload, Jones, Le Fondre and Guerra. Mason/ Doyle/Macheda will not get the goals to get us anywhere near to the top 6.

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:17 am

2blue2handle wrote:To me the squad needs a total overhaul.

This nonsense about last season is gone as it was relied on Daehli and Guerra and other people not allowed to play.

I see a squad struggling badly.


To suggest we need a total overhaul is ridiculous. That would mean the WHOLE team or squad!
We have some very good players at the club, we just need 2 or 3 to improve things. They need to be better than we have though & not similar or worse as most of Slades signings have been so far - Malone, Revel, OKeefe.

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:22 am

I agree that this club needs to get it's finances in order, and that's the reason I accept that we are not going to be able to throw money around any more, and also accept that the club's current priority is to maintain championship status. The present squad is no stronger than it was last season, and I can't see any way that we can expect them to do much more than we did last season. As long as we stay clear of the relegation battle, that would be as much as could be hoped for right now. I will stick by my prediction of finishing somewhere between 12th and 15th, and anything higher would be a bonus. If you don't set unrealistic expectations, you are not going to be too disappointed come the end of the season.

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:43 am

Steve Zodiak wrote:I agree that this club needs to get it's finances in order, and that's the reason I accept that we are not going to be able to throw money around any more, and also accept that the club's current priority is to maintain championship status. The present squad is no stronger than it was last season, and I can't see any way that we can expect them to do much more than we did last season. As long as we stay clear of the relegation battle, that would be as much as could be hoped for right now. I will stick by my prediction of finishing somewhere between 12th and 15th, and anything higher would be a bonus. If you don't set unrealistic expectations, you are not going to be too disappointed come the end of the season.


100% agree. The squad is not stronger than last year & what our expectations should be. If we do better then great. However I cannot work out some fans, in the current poll over a third of fans seem to think that we will be fighting for the play offs and sone even predict that we will be fighting for an automatic place. I love them to be right but did these fans see how we played in the second half of the season? We played dire boring football, could not string two passes together and sometimes we had 1 attempt on goal in a half. The club are still trying to offload the better players (Jones/ Le Fondre etc) so you wonder who is going to play the attacking football and scoring the 70/80 goals to fire us towards promotion. With Doyle/Macheda / Ravell/ Mason we will be lucky to get 30-35 from them combined.

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:47 am

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:I agree that this club needs to get it's finances in order, and that's the reason I accept that we are not going to be able to throw money around any more, and also accept that the club's current priority is to maintain championship status. The present squad is no stronger than it was last season, and I can't see any way that we can expect them to do much more than we did last season. As long as we stay clear of the relegation battle, that would be as much as could be hoped for right now. I will stick by my prediction of finishing somewhere between 12th and 15th, and anything higher would be a bonus. If you don't set unrealistic expectations, you are not going to be too disappointed come the end of the season.


100% agree. The squad is not stronger than last year & what our expectations should be. If we do better then great. However I cannot work out some fans, in the current poll over a third of fans seem to think that we will be fighting for the play offs and sone even predict that we will be fighting for an automatic place. I love them to be right but did these fans see how we played in the second half of the season? We played dire boring football, could not string two passes together and sometimes we had 1 attempt on goal in a half. The club are still trying to offload the better players (Jones/ Le Fondre etc) so you wonder who is going to play the attacking football and scoring the 70/80 goals to fire us towards promotion. With Doyle/Macheda / Ravell/ Mason we will be lucky to get 30-35 from them combined.


The club are trying to offload the "big earners" as opposed to the better players. With regards to your concerns about our striker contribution, as long as they chip in with a few then that's ok as long as we share the goals around. When we got promoted last time around we didn't have a prolific scorer in the team.

One season, Carl Dale banged in 30 goals for us and it didn't get us anywhere.

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:00 am

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:I agree that this club needs to get it's finances in order, and that's the reason I accept that we are not going to be able to throw money around any more, and also accept that the club's current priority is to maintain championship status. The present squad is no stronger than it was last season, and I can't see any way that we can expect them to do much more than we did last season. As long as we stay clear of the relegation battle, that would be as much as could be hoped for right now. I will stick by my prediction of finishing somewhere between 12th and 15th, and anything higher would be a bonus. If you don't set unrealistic expectations, you are not going to be too disappointed come the end of the season.


100% agree. The squad is not stronger than last year & what our expectations should be. If we do better then great. However I cannot work out some fans, in the current poll over a third of fans seem to think that we will be fighting for the play offs and sone even predict that we will be fighting for an automatic place. I love them to be right but did these fans see how we played in the second half of the season? We played dire boring football, could not string two passes together and sometimes we had 1 attempt on goal in a half. The club are still trying to offload the better players (Jones/ Le Fondre etc) so you wonder who is going to play the attacking football and scoring the 70/80 goals to fire us towards promotion. With Doyle/Macheda / Ravell/ Mason we will be lucky to get 30-35 from them combined.


Pretty much agree with you as usual.
The 3 or 4 on here who think we'll get automatic promotion make me laugh though. Makes you wonder what's going on as there's one who didn't even watch live games last season & kept banging on about how we'd get promoted even after half the season had gone. Delusional with no football knowledge but each to their own of course.
For me, I can't see promotion but I'll be happy with a team that plays some decent, attractive & attacking football. The complete opposite to last season. Some good exciting games even if we finish in the top half will do me.
I'm giving Slade a chance for sure.

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:36 am

I think it is to moan for the sake of moaning, which has been the case since Slade took over. He needs to be backed this year as negativity breeds negativity.

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:59 pm

Mr Ducie wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Mr Ducie wrote:One or two more additions to what already is a good squad should be enough for us this season.

We have (so far) kept the players of importance and with a good pre season we should better last seasons poor start and I believe we will be equipped for a play off push.

Genuine supporters want the debt reduced and the wages brought into line. We are back in blue so I have every reason to be optimistic for the forthcoming season.

:sladein:


Totally disagree.

Squad needs an overhaul. Players playing on past performances and very fee successful in slades 442.


Can you point out the positions where we need a total overhaul? To do this we would have to spend big again. Now, if the fans had shown loyalty (they wanted a return to blue) and shifted 20,000 season tickets and a further 1,000 corporate seats then I think they would be justified.

As this hasn't happened why should the board sanction this policy again?

As I say most genuine supporters want to club to curb is spending and reduce the wage bill. We all want to see progression but not at the detriment of the long term future.

It appears fans on message boards want the penny and the bun. Even when we get a reasonable signing its scrutinised by so called experts.

With regards to 4 4 2, why would players feel comfortable in it. It's just a starting point that is not rigid throughout a game , it's flexible depending on the way the game is going. What's more away from home we often change it around. Why are fans so obbsessed with formation?

Football is a simple game whether it be played with a sweeper, the Christmas tree formation, or whatever.... The set up is never rigid.



I don't agree with your comment "most genuine supporters" who the hell are you to spout off like that.

I couldn't give a toss about the colour we play in or the players wages. I want Cardiff to play entertaining football and win as many games as possible.

We have a wealthy owner and I don't mind how much he spends to get us success.

I've been to almost every home and away games for quite a few seasons so don't sound off with remarks that make me think you wouldn't know a genuine supporter if you fell over one.

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:05 pm

Wiltshireblue wrote:I think it is to moan for the sake of moaning, which has been thade took over. He needs to be backed this year as negativity breeds negativity.


I agree wholeheartedly! Slade needs to be backed into a corner and debagged. He is the source of all the negativity :sladeout:

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:57 pm

Wiltshireblue wrote:I think it is to moan for the sake of moaning, which has been the case since Slade took over. He needs to be backed this year as negativity breeds negativity.


Totally agree. :thumbright: :sladein: :sladein:

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:42 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
Wiltshireblue wrote:I think it is to moan for the sake of moaning, which has been the case since Slade took over. He needs to be backed this year as negativity breeds negativity.


Totally agree. :thumbright: :sladein: :sladein:


The problem is that the team has played boring, dire football under Slade and his tactics/ team selections have not helped. The vast majority of fans saw that week in week out and hence the reason why so many fans who have not renewed. There are a few who still believe that Slade is the best thing since sliced bread but unfortunately there is nothing to support that theory.

If the team were to play some attractive attacking football then undoubtedly many fans will change their opinion and then support Slade. Unfortunately we are still waiting for that to happen. Let's hope that things change come the start of the season.

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:00 pm

Skewett wrote:
Mr Ducie wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Mr Ducie wrote:One or two more additions to what already is a good squad should be enough for us this season.

We have (so far) kept the players of importance and with a good pre season we should better last seasons poor start and I believe we will be equipped for a play off push.

Genuine supporters want the debt reduced and the wages brought into line. We are back in blue so I have every reason to be optimistic for the forthcoming season.

:sladein:


Totally disagree.

Squad needs an overhaul. Players playing on past performances and very fee successful in slades 442.


Can you point out the positions where we need a total overhaul? To do this we would have to spend big again. Now, if the fans had shown loyalty (they wanted a return to blue) and shifted 20,000 season tickets and a further 1,000 corporate seats then I think they would be justified.

As this hasn't happened why should the board sanction this policy again?

As I say most genuine supporters want to club to curb is spending and reduce the wage bill. We all want to see progression but not at the detriment of the long term future.

It appears fans on message boards want the penny and the bun. Even when we get a reasonable signing its scrutinised by so called experts.

With regards to 4 4 2, why would players feel comfortable in it. It's just a starting point that is not rigid throughout a game , it's flexible depending on the way the game is going. What's more away from home we often change it around. Why are fans so obbsessed with formation?

Football is a simple game whether it be played with a sweeper, the Christmas tree formation, or whatever.... The set up is never rigid.



I don't agree with your comment "most genuine supporters" who the hell are you to spout off like that.

I couldn't give a toss about the colour we play in or the players wages. I want Cardiff to play entertaining football and win as many games as possible.

We have a wealthy owner and I don't mind how much he spends to get us success.

I've been to almost every home and away games for quite a few seasons so don't sound off with remarks that make me think you wouldn't know a genuine supporter if you fell over one.


Hang on an minute, I'm entitled to an opinion, and it's fairly well constructed one at that. If you don't agree with it, fine , however to single me out is unacceptable. By using the term "most" doesn't indicate all.

With regards to my fan loyalty, well I have supported Cardiff City for 30 years, and have been to over 140 grounds..... done the casual scene the lot.....

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:40 pm

Mr Ducie wrote:
Skewett wrote:
Mr Ducie wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Mr Ducie wrote:One or two more additions to what already is a good squad should be enough for us this season.

We have (so far) kept the players of importance and with a good pre season we should better last seasons poor start and I believe we will be equipped for a play off push.

Genuine supporters want the debt reduced and the wages brought into line. We are back in blue so I have every reason to be optimistic for the forthcoming season.

:sladein:


Totally disagree.

Squad needs an overhaul. Players playing on past performances and very fee successful in slades 442.


Can you point out the positions where we need a total overhaul? To do this we would have to spend big again. Now, if the fans had shown loyalty (they wanted a return to blue) and shifted 20,000 season tickets and a further 1,000 corporate seats then I think they would be justified.

As this hasn't happened why should the board sanction this policy again?

As I say most genuine supporters want to club to curb is spending and reduce the wage bill. We all want to see progression but not at the detriment of the long term future.

It appears fans on message boards want the penny and the bun. Even when we get a reasonable signing its scrutinised by so called experts.

With regards to 4 4 2, why would players feel comfortable in it. It's just a starting point that is not rigid throughout a game , it's flexible depending on the way the game is going. What's more away from home we often change it around. Why are fans so obbsessed with formation?

Football is a simple game whether it be played with a sweeper, the Christmas tree formation, or whatever.... The set up is never rigid.



I don't agree with your comment "most genuine supporters" who the hell are you to spout off like that.

I couldn't give a toss about the colour we play in or the players wages. I want Cardiff to play entertaining football and win as many games as possible.

We have a wealthy owner and I don't mind how much he spends to get us success.

I've been to almost every home and away games for quite a few seasons so don't sound off with remarks that make me think you wouldn't know a genuine supporter if you fell over one.


Hang on an minute, I'm entitled to an opinion, and it's fairly well constructed one at that. If you don't agree with it, fine , however to single me out is unacceptable. By using the term "most" doesn't indicate all.

With regards to my fan loyalty, well I have supported Cardiff City for 30 years, and have been to over 140 grounds..... done the casual scene the lot.....


Fair enough. You are entitled to your opinion but you are still suggesting "most" when you don't really know that.

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:22 am

Skewett wrote:
Mr Ducie wrote:
Skewett wrote:
Mr Ducie wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Mr Ducie wrote:One or two more additions to what already is a good squad should be enough for us this season.

We have (so far) kept the players of importance and with a good pre season we should better last seasons poor start and I believe we will be equipped for a play off push.

Genuine supporters want the debt reduced and the wages brought into line. We are back in blue so I have every reason to be optimistic for the forthcoming season.

:sladein:


Totally disagree.

Squad needs an overhaul. Players playing on past performances and very fee successful in slades 442.


Can you point out the positions where we need a total overhaul? To do this we would have to spend big again. Now, if the fans had shown loyalty (they wanted a return to blue) and shifted 20,000 season tickets and a further 1,000 corporate seats then I think they would be justified.

As this hasn't happened why should the board sanction this policy again?

As I say most genuine supporters want to club to curb is spending and reduce the wage bill. We all want to see progression but not at the detriment of the long term future.

It appears fans on message boards want the penny and the bun. Even when we get a reasonable signing its scrutinised by so called experts.

With regards to 4 4 2, why would players feel comfortable in it. It's just a starting point that is not rigid throughout a game , it's flexible depending on the way the game is going. What's more away from home we often change it around. Why are fans so obbsessed with formation?

Football is a simple game whether it be played with a sweeper, the Christmas tree formation, or whatever.... The set up is never rigid.



I don't agree with your comment "most genuine supporters" who the hell are you to spout off like that.

I couldn't give a toss about the colour we play in or the players wages. I want Cardiff to play entertaining football and win as many games as possible.

We have a wealthy owner and I don't mind how much he spends to get us success.

I've been to almost every home and away games for quite a few seasons so don't sound off with remarks that make me think you wouldn't know a genuine supporter if you fell over one.


Hang on an minute, I'm entitled to an opinion, and it's fairly well constructed one at that. If you don't agree with it, fine , however to single me out is unacceptable. By using the term "most" doesn't indicate all.

With regards to my fan loyalty, well I have supported Cardiff City for 30 years, and have been to over 140 grounds..... done the casual scene the lot.....


Fair enough. You are entitled to your opinion but you are still suggesting "most" when you don't really know that.

Interested in reading this spat which is strange as you both seem to be among our more sensible fans ( not much to beat, mind). You should save your ammunition for some of the other twerps who post on here

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:07 am

Lol

Apologies from me then. I suppose I'm a victim of a season watching less than entertaining football.

Turning me a bit sour in my old age.

I'll chill for a while!

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:01 pm

Can you point out the positions where we need a total overhaul? To do this we would have to spend big again. Now, if the fans had shown loyalty (they wanted a return to blue) and shifted 20,000 season tickets and a further 1,000 corporate seats then I think they would be justified.

As this hasn't happened why should the board sanction this policy again?

As I say most genuine supporters want to club to curb is spending and reduce the wage bill. We all want to see progression but not at the detriment of the long term future.

It appears fans on message boards want the penny and the bun. Even when we get a reasonable signing its scrutinised by so called experts.

With regards to 4 4 2, why would players feel comfortable in it. It's just a starting point that is not rigid throughout a game , it's flexible depending on the way the game is going. What's more away from home we often change it around. Why are fans so obbsessed with formation?

Football is a simple game whether it be played with a sweeper, the Christmas tree formation, or whatever.... The set up is never rigid.


Im not on about spending big im on about selling, people like Marshall, Manga, Whitts, people with a value and buying in cheaper, making the squad smaller and brining in players to fit a system.

I rarely seen us look flexible in a game, from what I seen nothing changed from week to week.

Re: Why The Clamour For New Signings ?

Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:29 pm

When did we sell Marshall manga and whitts ? :sladein: :bluescarf: :bluebird: