Pulling power is not an issue

Before everyone starts slagging off Slade for not signing rumoured targets, but has anyone considered that we are just being a bit more conservative than previous summers and if players want ridiculous wages and don't want to play for us then let another club make the mistake?

People are saying that we are not a club capable of bringing players here, but I question why a player would not want to play for us.

We are a big club with a huge fan base.
Well supported home and away.
A club that has bags of potential, has never reached it's peak.
An experienced and talented squad that have own promotion before.
A young team.


There is no reason that we can't be in the playoffs next year. Keep believing.

We are a big club with a huge fan base.
Well supported home and away.
A club that has bags of potential, has never reached it's peak.
An experienced and talented squad that have own promotion before.
A young team.

1. We are not a big club with a huge fan base
2. We are well supported home and away when it suits
3. The club is in a mass amount of debt with an extremely conservative financial outlook - thats not potential
4. This squad is a far cry from the one that got us promoted
5. A young team can exceed expectations but can also find itself a bunch of schoolboys lost amongst men - its a risk

Time to be realistic.

We are a big club with a huge fan base.
Well supported home and away.
A club that has bags of potential, has never reached it's peak.
An experienced and talented squad that have own promotion before.
A young team.

1. We are not a big club with a huge fan base
2. We are well supported home and away when it suits
3. The club is in a mass amount of debt with an extremely conservative financial outlook - thats not potential
4. This squad is a far cry from the one that got us promoted
5. A young team can exceed expectations but can also find itself a bunch of schoolboys lost amongst men - its a risk

Time to be realistic.

Agreed.

I prefer this approach than in previous windows I feel the squad has quality anyway and another is that because the players will know each other much more than before and know each others game without change with the squad being tight knit and Bournemouth did it and look at them.

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We are a big club with a huge fan base.
Well supported home and away.
A club that has bags of potential, has never reached it's peak.
An experienced and talented squad that have own promotion before.
A young team.

1. We are not a big club with a huge fan base
2. We are well supported home and away when it suits
3. The club is in a mass amount of debt with an extremely conservative financial outlook - thats not potential
4. This squad is a far cry from the one that got us promoted
5. A young team can exceed expectations but can also find itself a bunch of schoolboys lost amongst men - its a risk

Time to be realistic.

Agreed.

1) Yes we are, we sold out nearly every premier league game and have a huge catchment area.
2) We took 1200 to Forest on the last day if the season. 3 hour drive and nothing to play for.
3) A return to the Premier League would clear most of the debt.
4) The core of the squad is the one that got us promoted.
5) The youth could bring energy

We are only a big club in the eyes of some Cardiff supporters. We have been so called sleeping giants for most of the 50 years that I have been a fan. Much of that time I was one of 2 or 3,000 fans that we would usually get at Ninian Park. We are an average size club, similar to Coventry, Birmingham, Leicester, and the likes. Unless we are up towards the top of the league next season, we will get gates of 12 to 14,000 if we are lucky, which has been the normal sort of attendance for us when we have been an average second tier side. Unless we start making some progress, we won't even be the biggest club in Wales for much longer, and some would argue that we are not the biggest in Wales right now.

We are a big club with a huge fan base.
Well supported home and away.
A club that has bags of potential, has never reached it's peak.
An experienced and talented squad that have own promotion before.
A young team.

1. We are not a big club with a huge fan base
2. We are well supported home and away when it suits
3. The club is in a mass amount of debt with an extremely conservative financial outlook - thats not potential
4. This squad is a far cry from the one that got us promoted
5. A young team can exceed expectations but can also find itself a bunch of schoolboys lost amongst men - its a risk

Time to be realistic.

Totally agree. That's why a "huge club " has lost 5-8K season ticket holders. Fans do not want to see uninspiring boring football. We are going backwards at a rapid pace and it's great being optimistic but how on earth do fans link the current squad to promotion I never know.

We're an averaged sized club with an average support. We have no more potential then most championship clubs. It's attitudes like the OP is why many fans excepted the horrific rebrand.

We are only a big club in the eyes of some Cardiff supporters. We have been so called sleeping giants for most of the 50 years that I have been a fan. Much of that time I was one of 2 or 3,000 fans that we would usually get at Ninian Park. We are an average size club, similar to Coventry, Birmingham, Leicester, and the likes. Unless we are up towards the top of the league next season, we will get gates of 12 to 14,000 if we are lucky, which has been the normal sort of attendance for us when we have been an average second tier side. Unless we start making some progress, we won't even be the biggest club in Wales for much longer, and some would argue that we are not the biggest in Wales right now.

Yes but Wrexham and Colwyn Bay are only slightly bigger than us!

The stadium and the atmosphere on average is such a turn off.
The demise of terraces has wrecked the atmosphere.
The reason why I used to follow Cardiff and was such a draw to me was the volatile atmosphere at Ninian Park...

We are a big club with a huge fan base.
Well supported home and away.
A club that has bags of potential, has never reached it's peak.
An experienced and talented squad that have own promotion before.
A young team.

1. We are not a big club with a huge fan base
2. We are well supported home and away when it suits
3. The club is in a mass amount of debt with an extremely conservative financial outlook - thats not potential
4. This squad is a far cry from the one that got us promoted
5. A young team can exceed expectations but can also find itself a bunch of schoolboys lost amongst men - its a risk

Time to be realistic.

Agreed.

1) Yes we are, we sold out nearly every premier league game and have a huge catchment area.
2) We took 1200 to Forest on the last day if the season. 3 hour drive and nothing to play for.
3) A return to the Premier League would clear most of the debt.
4) The core of the squad is the one that got us promoted.
5) The youth could bring energy

We are not a hug club. We can be but we're not. Despite what people say, the jacks are bigger a day better than us. The sooner our fans realise we're not as big as we think the better..

Saying that yes we have a good catchment area. If our club was rub properly, which is clearly not going to happen for a long time, then I think we could be a big club.

We are a big club with a huge fan base.
Well supported home and away.
A club that has bags of potential, has never reached it's peak.
An experienced and talented squad that have own promotion before.
A young team.

1. We are not a big club with a huge fan base
2. We are well supported home and away when it suits
3. The club is in a mass amount of debt with an extremely conservative financial outlook - thats not potential
4. This squad is a far cry from the one that got us promoted
5. A young team can exceed expectations but can also find itself a bunch of schoolboys lost amongst men - its a risk

Time to be realistic.

Agreed.

1) Yes we are, we sold out nearly every premier league game and have a huge catchment area.
2) We took 1200 to Forest on the last day if the season. 3 hour drive and nothing to play for.
3) A return to the Premier League would clear most of the debt.
4) The core of the squad is the one that got us promoted.
5) The youth could bring energy

We are not a hug club. We can be but we're not. Despite what people say, the jacks are bigger a day better than us. The sooner our fans realise we're not as big as we think the better..

Saying that yes we have a good catchment area. If our club was rub properly, which is clearly not going to happen for a long time, then I think we could be a big club.

What is run properly in your eyes?

We are a big club with a huge fan base.
Well supported home and away.
A club that has bags of potential, has never reached it's peak.
An experienced and talented squad that have own promotion before.
A young team.

1. We are not a big club with a huge fan base
2. We are well supported home and away when it suits
3. The club is in a mass amount of debt with an extremely conservative financial outlook - thats not potential
4. This squad is a far cry from the one that got us promoted
5. A young team can exceed expectations but can also find itself a bunch of schoolboys lost amongst men - its a risk

Time to be realistic.

Your comments sound like an early surrender of any promotion ambition this season.

We won't get promoted with the personnel or type of dross we played for most of last season

We are a big club with a huge fan base.
Well supported home and away.
A club that has bags of potential, has never reached it's peak.
An experienced and talented squad that have own promotion before.
A young team.

1. We are not a big club with a huge fan base
2. We are well supported home and away when it suits
3. The club is in a mass amount of debt with an extremely conservative financial outlook - thats not potential
4. This squad is a far cry from the one that got us promoted
5. A young team can exceed expectations but can also find itself a bunch of schoolboys lost amongst men - its a risk

Time to be realistic.

Your comments sound like an early surrender of any promotion ambition this season.

We won't get promoted with the personnel or type of dross we played for most of last season

I actually think we will end up relegated after a season of further instability and turmoil.

We are a big club with a huge fan base.
Well supported home and away.
A club that has bags of potential, has never reached it's peak.
An experienced and talented squad that have own promotion before.
A young team.

1. We are not a big club with a huge fan base
2. We are well supported home and away when it suits
3. The club is in a mass amount of debt with an extremely conservative financial outlook - thats not potential
4. This squad is a far cry from the one that got us promoted
5. A young team can exceed expectations but can also find itself a bunch of schoolboys lost amongst men - its a risk

Time to be realistic.

Agreed.

1) Yes we are, we sold out nearly every premier league game and have a huge catchment area.
2) We took 1200 to Forest on the last day if the season. 3 hour drive and nothing to play for.
3) A return to the Premier League would clear most of the debt.
4) The core of the squad is the one that got us promoted.
5) The youth could bring energy

1) No we are not. We "nearly" sold out. If we were a big club we would have totally sold out and had a waiting list for tickets.
2) It is traditional to take a big following to the last away game of the season for many , if not most , clubs
3) No it wouldn`t. It would help but our previous Premier League season resulted in a loss of £12m. People seem to focus on the income levels available in the Premier but forget all about the costs - gross income does not pay off debts , most of it goes in running costs
4) But some are older , slower and less effective now
5) They could , but the current manager seems to prefer "steady eddies" or "journeymen" over youth.