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Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:42 am
Floyd Mayweather delivers new Amir Khan snub and says it's Andre Berto or Karim Mayfield next
22/06/2015
Sky Sports
Floyd Mayweather: Due to quit boxing after one last fight in September
Floyd Mayweather says his September boxing swansong will be against one of two opponents - neither of whom is Amir Khan.
Mayweather is adamant he will walk away from the sport after one more fight, and Khan has dedicated his recent career to chasing a dream date with the unbeaten American before his retirement.
Britain's welterweight star has raised his profile in the United States and this month claimed he was "closer than ever" to securing a shot at Mayweather.
Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:28 am
Kahn would bring the British fans which far outweighs anything the others can bring in terms of an audience and legacy as his last fight.
It would sell out Wembley 3 times over.
I don't know that much about boxing, but isn't Kahn supposed to be an absolute tank now?.
Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:43 am
Still got a glass jaw hasn't he? Whoever Mayweather chooses will just be a run-of-the-mill fight anyway. Best for Khan if he focuses on his improved form and avoids a pummelling from Mayweather.
Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:59 am
people keep talking about filling wembely. Mayweather would make a lot less money fighting in this country, it wont happen
Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:23 am
Mayweather would make money fighting in an empty field,its not about filling any venue today for him.Its about sponsorship and broardcast rights.Besides,he wants someone he knows he can beat.Khan is just too dangerous an opponent.
Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:09 am
Sneggyblubird wrote:Mayweather would make money fighting in an empty field,its not about filling any venue today for him.Its about sponsorship and broardcast rights.Besides,he wants someone he knows he can beat.Khan is just too dangerous an opponent.
Come on... really? Khan would get destroyed.
Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:06 am
Dunno boys.I base my opinion on his out and out boxing ability,however,I must concede that the guy's liking for a tearup would get him beaten against Mayweather.A pity really because of the fact that he's never boxed to his strengths has probably cost him as a box office attraction.But I still maintain if he could box on his bike he would trouble Mayweather but as thats not likely because he's a muppet like that I suppose I must concede your point.
Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:24 am
Zabier wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:Mayweather would make money fighting in an empty field,its not about filling any venue today for him.Its about sponsorship and broardcast rights.Besides,he wants someone he knows he can beat.Khan is just too dangerous an opponent.
Come on... really? Khan would get destroyed.
Nah he wouldn't. I am not saying that Khan would beat Mayweather but he would definitely give him a hard time. There are two ways in which Amir Khan fights. One is where he tries to prove something that he is not and that is being a fighter and standing and trading. Which if he did you would see his glass chin again. Then there is Amir Khan the boxer, where he uses his speed and he is in and out quick staying defensive. The two times that Khan was badly beaten were the times when he started to stand trade. Don't forget if u go back over the Danny Garcia fight, Amir totally out boxed him for 2 rounds and Garcia didn't stand a chance with him. But then Khan got too cocky and confident and then he stupidly started to stand toe to toe and trade big punches. When Khan does this he usually loses, heavily. If Khan had of continued to box the rest of the Garcia fight like he did in the first couple of rounds then Khan would have won in a wide points decision. Now Floyd Mayweather has never fought a person that is as fast as Khan, not even Pacquiao was that fast as Floyd proved. Also, he has very rarely picked fighters who are a lot taller and have got a long reach. Most of Mayweathers opponents have been hand picked. The intelligent boxer Amir Khan would definitely give Mayweather problems. But, the not very intelligent Khan that leaves his chin in the air, drops his hands and stands and trades punches, would get totally destroyed and lead to Mayweather having his first stoppage win, in quite a few years. Amir Khan is a world class Boxer when he uses his head and fights in the correct way. But, he is distinctly average when he fights in an aggressive style. If only Thomas The Hitman Hearns was around in his prime now he would beat Mayweather, in my opinion. It's boxers in the same build and who box in the same way as Hearns, that Mayweather doesn't want to fight and he runs away from, as they have the tools in which to beat him. I am not saying that Amir Khan is in the same league or looks and fights like Hearns, I'm just saying that Hearns in my opinion is the type of guy who could beat Floyd.
Bloooooobirds.
Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:33 am
Zabier wrote:Still got a glass jaw hasn't he? Whoever Mayweather chooses will just be a run-of-the-mill fight anyway. Best for Khan if he focuses on his improved form and avoids a pummelling from Mayweather.
Glass jaw won't matter with mayweather cas he just runs away for 12 rounds
Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:27 am
Khan ffs!!! Hes not even the best in Britain!!!
Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:41 am
geggs_ccfc wrote:Zabier wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:Mayweather would make money fighting in an empty field,its not about filling any venue today for him.Its about sponsorship and broardcast rights.Besides,he wants someone he knows he can beat.Khan is just too dangerous an opponent.
Come on... really? Khan would get destroyed.
Nah he wouldn't. I am not saying that Khan would beat Mayweather but he would definitely give him a hard time. There are two ways in which Amir Khan fights. One is where he tries to prove something that he is not and that is being a fighter and standing and trading. Which if he did you would see his glass chin again. Then there is Amir Khan the boxer, where he uses his speed and he is in and out quick staying defensive. The two times that Khan was badly beaten were the times when he started to stand trade. Don't forget if u go back over the Danny Garcia fight, Amir totally out boxed him for 2 rounds and Garcia didn't stand a chance with him. But then Khan got too cocky and confident and then he stupidly started to stand toe to toe and trade big punches. When Khan does this he usually loses, heavily. If Khan had of continued to box the rest of the Garcia fight like he did in the first couple of rounds then Khan would have won in a wide points decision. Now Floyd Mayweather has never fought a person that is as fast as Khan, not even Pacquiao was that fast as Floyd proved. Also, he has very rarely picked fighters who are a lot taller and have got a long reach. Most of Mayweathers opponents have been hand picked. The intelligent boxer Amir Khan would definitely give Mayweather problems. But, the not very intelligent Khan that leaves his chin in the air, drops his hands and stands and trades punches, would get totally destroyed and lead to Mayweather having his first stoppage win, in quite a few years. Amir Khan is a world class Boxer when he uses his head and fights in the correct way. But, he is distinctly average when he fights in an aggressive style. If only Thomas The Hitman Hearns was around in his prime now he would beat Mayweather, in my opinion. It's boxers in the same build and who box in the same way as Hearns, that Mayweather doesn't want to fight and he runs away from, as they have the tools in which to beat him. I am not saying that Amir Khan is in the same league or looks and fights like Hearns, I'm just saying that Hearns in my opinion is the type of guy who could beat Floyd.
Bloooooobirds.
I have to agree with you Geggs, it's obvious you know your boxing. A lot of people rate Kahn on those 3 awful fights against Prescott, Garcia and Peterson. But when he fights to his abilities I think he's the only person who could even come close to bothering Mayweather. His performance against Alexander was one of the best boxing performances I have seen for years, the speed and accuracy f his combos were just flawless. But to get back to the point of the topic, I would say Mayweather is doing the right thing he doesn't need to get take a risk. And the best boxer to ever grace this planet should retire without a loss so good on him!
Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:34 pm
Anyone thinking Khan would beat Floyd needs to put the glue away. Floyd is in a different class. Khan has no chance and is just desperate for a big pay day before Floyd packs it in.
Floyd vs Thurman is a much better fight and one that actually makes sense. I'd rather see Khan fight Brook to be perfectly honest.
No one other than someone like Golovkin can beat Floyd and that isn't going to happen. He is a heavier boxer, busy and hard hitting.
What has Khan done to deserve a fight against Floyd? He hardly lit the world up against Algieri whilst Floyd went and made Pacquiao look like a kid lost in a field.
Fact is, all the haters around the world will never give Floyd a fair shout because of his antics and attitude outside the ring. It says more about you and your capacity to be objective, rather than subjective, than it does about him.
Whether you like it or not, Floyd is one of the best of all time, arguably the greatest pugilist in the truest sense of the word, and Khan is simply a small fish in comparison. Get real.
Mayweather vs Thurman with Khan vs Brook and Spence Jr vs Porter on the undercard is a good night of boxing.
Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:53 pm
Why would Khan bring fans? His last few fights haven't sold very well in America with his last fight being a Friday early evening affair. Just ain't happening people are bored of him and realise he is over rated.
Kell Brook is better.
Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:27 am
The money looking for an easy option. Can't wait to see the back of him TBH he is a boring fighter to watch as his defence is technically perfect and the fact he is a tw*t. Khan yes improved but could he beat Kell Brook ? No in my opinion.
Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:37 pm
Khan is a dangerous opponent no doubt.
His hands move faster than anyone currently active in that division.
Under Virgil Hunter there have been massive improvements. His most recent outing Khan looked out of it partly because he was convinced he was fighting one of the top two.
Would Khan Beat Money? Nope not on his best and Floyds Worst day!!!
Mayweather is far to smart for any fighter, he waits til all the things are in his favour then he cashes in his chips.
Don't be surprised if Pacman v Pakiman is made.
Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:10 pm
Mayweather is faster than Khan. Floyd would make Khan miss then counter punch him into oblivion. Mayweather is the fastest in the division easily. People continue to lie and say 'x' is faster than Mayweather. This simply isn't true. Mayweather is the fastest and most precise which is why he evades punches, switches angles and then counter punches with precision on the exit.
Sorry, but Floyd is old school and one of the few boxers of this era that could hold his own against the greats. The rest would get their backsides handed to them and then some.
Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:08 pm
Sorry mate but I totally disagree with you there. There is no way on earth that Floyd Mayweather is faster than Amir Khan. Even Mayweather would agree with that mate. Mayweather is on the decline now, his reflexes, speed and his feet are not as fast as they used to be. Yes, he is still very fast and still faster than 95% of the boxers out there, but to say that he is faster than Khan, is madness, madness I tell you.
Bloooooobirds.
Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:19 pm
Also, that is the reason why Mayweather will not give Khan a shot at him. Cause Floyd is wary of Khan's speed. That's why Khan will never get a chance to step in the ring with Mayweather. The money that could be generated between the two would be huge. Amir Khan is very big in America in terms of likeability and support. There is not a bigger big money fight out there than Khan V Mayweather.
Bloooooobirds.
Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:16 am
Everyone is 'faster' than Mayweather until they step in the ring with him, he steps it up and schools them, giving them a boxing lesson they'll never forget.
The fact is, Khan does not deserve a shot against him no matter how much he and the British media try to hype it up. He hasn't even established himself as the best in Britain at the weight either because he has continuously been ducking Brook, of who he knows has the one punch power to trouble him.
Also, there's no amir Khan the boxer and amir Khan the fighter. There's one Amir Khan who is a combination of a good pugilist on the outside but is caught wanting massively if dragged into a close brawl fought on the inside.
Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:31 am
have to agree balkanblue. The thought that Khan would get anywhere near Mayweather is laughable.
Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:32 am
Floyd has lost his speed but retains great timing where placing his shots are concerned.
He would make Kahn Miss often however when he rests and allows fighters to attack him which he often does Khan has the speed to cause problems.
However Khan gets Caught coming in and Money would capitalise on that advantage.
Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:20 am
balkanblue wrote:
Also, there's no amir Khan the boxer and amir Khan the fighter. There's one Amir Khan who is a combination of a good pugilist on the outside but is caught wanting massively if dragged into a close brawl fought on the inside.
You just contradicted yourself there mate. You say that there aren't two Amir Khan's but then you offer two ways in which he fights. But, I totally agree with you about the two ways in which Khan fights. All I am saying is that if Khan boxes intelligently on the outside, he uses his extra reach advantage and he works off his jab, then he has a much better chance of causing problems for Mayweather, than he would if he fought in the pocket and started brawling, just like he has done in his big losses. Now when it comes down to Kell Brook I think that Khan would beat him hands down. He would totally outbox him and school him. But, of course Brook and other fighters always have a chance because of Khan's glass jaw.
Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:25 am
geggs_ccfc wrote:balkanblue wrote:
Also, there's no amir Khan the boxer and amir Khan the fighter. There's one Amir Khan who is a combination of a good pugilist on the outside but is caught wanting massively if dragged into a close brawl fought on the inside.
You just contradicted yourself there mate. You say that there aren't two Amir Khan's but then you offer two ways in which he fights. But, I totally agree with you about the two ways in which Khan fights. All I am saying is that if Khan boxes intelligently on the outside, he uses his extra reach advantage and he works off his jab, then he has a much better chance of causing problems for Mayweather, than he would if he fought in the pocket and started brawling, just like he has done in his big losses. Now when it comes down to Kell Brook I think that Khan would beat him hands down. He would totally outbox him and school him. But, of course Brook and other fighters always have a chance because of Khan's glass jaw.
Amir khan doesnt have an extra reach advantage
Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:44 am
geggs_ccfc wrote:balkanblue wrote:
Also, there's no amir Khan the boxer and amir Khan the fighter. There's one Amir Khan who is a combination of a good pugilist on the outside but is caught wanting massively if dragged into a close brawl fought on the inside.
You just contradicted yourself there mate. You say that there aren't two Amir Khan's but then you offer two ways in which he fights. But, I totally agree with you about the two ways in which Khan fights. All I am saying is that if Khan boxes intelligently on the outside, he uses his extra reach advantage and he works off his jab, then he has a much better chance of causing problems for Mayweather, than he would if he fought in the pocket and started brawling, just like he has done in his big losses. Now when it comes down to Kell Brook I think that Khan would beat him hands down. He would totally outbox him and school him. But, of course Brook and other fighters always have a chance because of Khan's glass jaw.
No I didn't. You just fail to comprehend the point made. There are no TWO boxers. He is ONE boxer with many flaws. To try and pass this off as if there are two Amid Khans and he can just switch from one to the other is pathetic. He is often forced to engage by boxers who understand his limitations. Danny Garcia knew he couldn't handle a scrap on the inside so made the fight messy on purpose. Khan is no evasive Mayweather that can counter and move with expert timing. He is a gifted yet deeply flawed fighter in many respects. When Khan gets into the ring you don't know what is going to happen. Its also idiotic to assume Khan only loses when he goes for it and starts fighting on the inside. Many boxers force his hand and make him do that because they know it'll leave him exposed.
Also, you say Khan would completely outbox him and school him yet this is completely based on Khan putting on a perfect display and stats, which let me tell you mean nothing in the world of boxing and that's why many experts get it so wrong so often.
Fed up hearing so and so will beat Mayweather and people hyping up Khan into something he isn't. Khan is nowhere near his level and as already said, hasn't even proven himself to be the best in the UK, regardless of what you think would happen.
I honestly believe if they fought Khan would walk into one of Brooks check left hooks. Brook is also the bigger guy naturally and can punch with precision and power.
Brook beating Khan would make Khan insignificant and he knows it hence why he continues to shy away from the fight.
Anyone thinking Khan would beat Floyd or even has a chance is delusional.
Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:23 am
Depressed Blue wrote:Kahn would bring the British fans which far outweighs anything the others can bring in terms of an audience and legacy as his last fight.
It would sell out Wembley 3 times over.
I don't know that much about boxing, but isn't Kahn supposed to be an absolute tank now?.
You're thinking of Naseem Hamed.
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