Mark Hudson's footsteps

When Hudson came to city for the first year or so, many city fans thought he wasn't good enough - Too slow etc. he then went on to be a class act, true leader and captain that took us to the premier league. IMO one of ole's many mistakes (and one of his biggest ones) was letting Hudson go.

Last year was turbulant to say the least, with a more settled squad and an air of positivity around Cardiff after the change back to blue do you think Sean Morrison can follow in Hudsons footsteps? He was highly rated at reading and we certainly haven't seen the best of him. However, competition is going to be tight with turner fit again!

I think he'll come good this year and be a solid asset

Makes you laugh really.Wasn't long ago people used to call Ben Turner a hoofball footballer yet I read earlier today he's now regarded as a proper CB.

Most disagree but I still think with Hudsons injuries and age it was the right decision to move him on. I wouldn't say defence was a problem last season more tactics and those in front of them. A CB set up of Manga, Conolly, Turner and Morison isn't bad for a championship team.
Personally I'd like to see Manga and Conolly together.

To answer your question I'm not a Morison fan but with experience he could become an asset at this level.

Most disagree but I still think with Hudsons injuries and age it was the right decision to move him on. I wouldn't say defence was a problem last season more tactics and those in front of them. A CB set up of Manga, Conolly, Turner and Morison isn't bad for a championship team.
Personally I'd like to see Manga and Conolly together.

To answer your question I'm not a Morison fan but with experience he could become an asset at this level.

I would like to see Manga and Connolly as well but feel with the players we have at the moment and the lack of leaders in the starting line up, Turner must start

Mark Hudson was a reasonably good player at Championship level. He was slow and ponderous but his positional sense was ok. However, he proved himself a very good Captain and leader. His career was finished when some clown, for best reasons known to them, brought him into the Premiership along with journeymen such as Andrew Taylor, Peter Whittingham and Nicky Maynard et al. The reasons why may be due to money but certainly not to merit. Hudson's career, as with the rest has suffered accordingly.

Don't remember Hudson shitting in the street so Morrison is already ahead of Hudson in the "being a tw*t" stakes.

He does score goals but his main task is to defend and he's slow and ponderous. Worth nowhere near the sum we are supposed to have paid for him.

Manga and Connolly for me, followed by Turner and hopefully the Arsenal boy will be pushing for a first team start.

Morrison can clean the bogs.

Most disagree but I still think with Hudsons injuries and age it was the right decision to move him on. I wouldn't say defence was a problem last season more tactics and those in front of them. A CB set up of Manga, Conolly, Turner and Morison isn't bad for a championship team.
Personally I'd like to see Manga and Conolly together.

To answer your question I'm not a Morison fan but with experience he could become an asset at this level.

At last someone who agrees! We didn't miss Hudson, we missed someone with leadership qualities and someone to lift the team.

i was against hudson for soo long when he first came, he was making defensive mistake after mistake, and every time we conceded hudson was always partly to blame, falling over, losing his man, poor passing ect, i dont know whether it was down to confidence or just needing a season to settle in, but upto the moment he left i thought he was a solid leader and top top defender, regardless of his age and pace, fitted in alongside a fast young cb he could of had a few more seasons as a top defender for us.

sometimes it takes time for players to settle in

Most disagree but I still think with Hudsons injuries and age it was the right decision to move him on. I wouldn't say defence was a problem last season more tactics and those in front of them. A CB set up of Manga, Conolly, Turner and Morison isn't bad for a championship team.
Personally I'd like to see Manga and Conolly together.

To answer your question I'm not a Morison fan but with experience he could become an asset at this level.

At last someone who agrees! We didn't miss Hudson, we missed someone with leadership qualities and someone to lift the team.

Well if ever I've read a contradiction, that was it.

Mark Hudson was a reasonably good player at Championship level. He was slow and ponderous but his positional sense was ok. However, he proved himself a very good Captain and leader. His career was finished when some clown, for best reasons known to them, brought him into the Premiership along with journeymen such as Andrew Taylor, Peter Whittingham and Nicky Maynard et al. The reasons why may be due to money but certainly not to merit. Hudson's career, as with the rest has suffered accordingly.

I don't think your quite giving him the credit he deserves as a player and not just a leader, in our promotion season his defending was heroic at times and he was also pretty cool on the ball and always found a simple pass. He didn't win player of the year for nothing!

i was against hudson for soo long when he first came, he was making defensive mistake after mistake, and every time we conceded hudson was always partly to blame, falling over, losing his man, poor passing ect, i dont know whether it was down to confidence or just needing a season to settle in, but upto the moment he left i thought he was a solid leader and top top defender, regardless of his age and pace, fitted in alongside a fast young cb he could of had a few more seasons as a top defender for us.

sometimes it takes time for players to settle in

Exactly, and I'm hoping Morrison goes on to follow in his footsteps in that regard.

Most disagree but I still think with Hudsons injuries and age it was the right decision to move him on. I wouldn't say defence was a problem last season more tactics and those in front of them. A CB set up of Manga, Conolly, Turner and Morison isn't bad for a championship team.
Personally I'd like to see Manga and Conolly together.

To answer your question I'm not a Morison fan but with experience he could become an asset at this level.

At last someone who agrees! We didn't miss Hudson, we missed someone with leadership qualities and someone to lift the team.

Well if ever I've read a contradiction, that was it.

Not a contradiction. What's the point keeping Hudson if he wasn't going to play, plus he was on 15k I think? We finished ahead of Huddersfield as well. Was injured throughout the whole of our Prem season and didn't make the step up.

Most disagree but I still think with Hudsons injuries and age it was the right decision to move him on. I wouldn't say defence was a problem last season more tactics and those in front of them. A CB set up of Manga, Conolly, Turner and Morison isn't bad for a championship team.
Personally I'd like to see Manga and Conolly together.

To answer your question I'm not a Morison fan but with experience he could become an asset at this level.

At last someone who agrees! We didn't miss Hudson, we missed someone with leadership qualities and someone to lift the team.

Well if ever I've read a contradiction, that was it.

Not a contradiction. What's the point keeping Hudson if he wasn't going to play, plus he was on 15k I think? We finished ahead of Huddersfield as well. Was injured throughout the whole of our Prem season and didn't make the step up.

Well that's my point, we should have kept him and played him in the league that he was proven in for us, both as a player and a leader. I don't think at a time when cardiff built up a ridiculous expensive squad of 47 players Hudsons wages were a concern and Huddersfields league position has no relevance to the argument.

Saying that we needed a leader and someone to lift the team but we didn't need hudson, is a contradiction. Because he had both those qualities in abundance, more so than anyone in our squad.

Most disagree but I still think with Hudsons injuries and age it was the right decision to move him on. I wouldn't say defence was a problem last season more tactics and those in front of them. A CB set up of Manga, Conolly, Turner and Morison isn't bad for a championship team.
Personally I'd like to see Manga and Conolly together.

To answer your question I'm not a Morison fan but with experience he could become an asset at this level.

At last someone who agrees! We didn't miss Hudson, we missed someone with leadership qualities and someone to lift the team.

Well if ever I've read a contradiction, that was it.

Not a contradiction. What's the point keeping Hudson if he wasn't going to play, plus he was on 15k I think? We finished ahead of Huddersfield as well. Was injured throughout the whole of our Prem season and didn't make the step up.

Well that's my point, we should have kept him and played him in the league that he was proven in for us, both as a player and a leader. I don't think at a time when cardiff built up a ridiculous expensive squad of 47 players Hudsons wages were a concern and Huddersfields league position has no relevance to the argument.

Saying that we needed a leader and someone to lift the team but we didn't need hudson, is a contradiction. Because he had both those qualities in abundance, more so than anyone in our squad.

For him to get injured AGAIN? Our Championship winning season even when he was voted POTY, he was injured AGAIN for a few months, there has not been many seasons if not one season at his tenure at the club where he did not pick up an injury that put him out for a few weeks. Ole took a gamble selling him but it was because he was consistently injured and did not play much the season before

Most disagree but I still think with Hudsons injuries and age it was the right decision to move him on. I wouldn't say defence was a problem last season more tactics and those in front of them. A CB set up of Manga, Conolly, Turner and Morison isn't bad for a championship team.
Personally I'd like to see Manga and Conolly together.

To answer your question I'm not a Morison fan but with experience he could become an asset at this level.

At last someone who agrees! We didn't miss Hudson, we missed someone with leadership qualities and someone to lift the team.

Well if ever I've read a contradiction, that was it.

Not a contradiction. What's the point keeping Hudson if he wasn't going to play, plus he was on 15k I think? We finished ahead of Huddersfield as well. Was injured throughout the whole of our Prem season and didn't make the step up.

Well that's my point, we should have kept him and played him in the league that he was proven in for us, both as a player and a leader. I don't think at a time when cardiff built up a ridiculous expensive squad of 47 players Hudsons wages were a concern and Huddersfields league position has no relevance to the argument.

Saying that we needed a leader and someone to lift the team but we didn't need hudson, is a contradiction. Because he had both those qualities in abundance, more so than anyone in our squad.

For him to get injured AGAIN? Our Championship winning season even when he was voted POTY, he was injured AGAIN for a few months, there has not been many seasons if not one season at his tenure at the club where he did not pick up an injury that put him out for a few weeks. Ole took a gamble selling him but it was because he was consistently injured and did not play much the season before

You think him getting injured was a concern of ole's when he signed players like pilkinton and dicakjo? Behave mate, he didn't rate him or value him and thought it was worth spending 4 million on Morrison instead because he basically had an open book and was like a child in a sweet shop. Hence we ended up with an over manned, unfit bunch of mercenaries.

Mark Hudson was a reasonably good player at Championship level. He was slow and ponderous but his positional sense was ok. However, he proved himself a very good Captain and leader. His career was finished when some clown, for best reasons known to them, brought him into the Premiership along with journeymen such as Andrew Taylor, Peter Whittingham and Nicky Maynard et al. The reasons why may be due to money but certainly not to merit. Hudson's career, as with the rest has suffered accordingly.

I don't think your quite giving him the credit he deserves as a player and not just a leader, in our promotion season his defending was heroic at times and he was also pretty cool on the ball and always found a simple pass. He didn't win player of the year for nothing!

Hi Nubbs,

No I didn't think him terrible as a player, he had his moments, a reasonably good Championship centre back. However I bet you wouldn't swap him for Manga! Different class altogether.

Mark Hudson was a reasonably good player at Championship level. He was slow and ponderous but his positional sense was ok. However, he proved himself a very good Captain and leader. His career was finished when some clown, for best reasons known to them, brought him into the Premiership along with journeymen such as Andrew Taylor, Peter Whittingham and Nicky Maynard et al. The reasons why may be due to money but certainly not to merit. Hudson's career, as with the rest has suffered accordingly.

I don't think your quite giving him the credit he deserves as a player and not just a leader, in our promotion season his defending was heroic at times and he was also pretty cool on the ball and always found a simple pass. He didn't win player of the year for nothing!

Talk about OTT. He was a good championship player and captain who was getting on and becoming injury prone. Look at his stats for his last two seasons. He was even injured pre-season before he was sold. he is portrayed by as being like Rio Ferdinand at his peak. He was sold to make way for Manga; now that is a swap that I would make any day of the week. I just don't understand the Hudson hype.

Mark Hudson was a reasonably good player at Championship level. He was slow and ponderous but his positional sense was ok. However, he proved himself a very good Captain and leader. His career was finished when some clown, for best reasons known to them, brought him into the Premiership along with journeymen such as Andrew Taylor, Peter Whittingham and Nicky Maynard et al. The reasons why may be due to money but certainly not to merit. Hudson's career, as with the rest has suffered accordingly.

I don't think your quite giving him the credit he deserves as a player and not just a leader, in our promotion season his defending was heroic at times and he was also pretty cool on the ball and always found a simple pass. He didn't win player of the year for nothing!

Talk about OTT. He was a good championship player and captain who was getting on and becoming injury prone. Look at his stats for his last two seasons. He was even injured pre-season before he was sold. he is portrayed by as being like Rio Ferdinand at his peak. He was sold to make way for Manga; now that is a swap that I would make any day of the week. I just don't understand the Hudson hype.

I would have had no problem with swapping Hudson for Manga, but that summer we also payed 4 million for Sean Morrison.

Mark Hudson was a reasonably good player at Championship level. He was slow and ponderous but his positional sense was ok. However, he proved himself a very good Captain and leader. His career was finished when some clown, for best reasons known to them, brought him into the Premiership along with journeymen such as Andrew Taylor, Peter Whittingham and Nicky Maynard et al. The reasons why may be due to money but certainly not to merit. Hudson's career, as with the rest has suffered accordingly.

I don't think your quite giving him the credit he deserves as a player and not just a leader, in our promotion season his defending was heroic at times and he was also pretty cool on the ball and always found a simple pass. He didn't win player of the year for nothing!

Talk about OTT. He was a good championship player and captain who was getting on and becoming injury prone. Look at his stats for his last two seasons. He was even injured pre-season before he was sold. he is portrayed by as being like Rio Ferdinand at his peak. He was sold to make way for Manga; now that is a swap that I would make any day of the week. I just don't understand the Hudson hype.

I would have had no problem with swapping Hudson for Manga, but that summer we also payed 4 million for Sean Morrison.

With the transfer business that summer I don't think we can specifically say who left for who. It was sporadic to say the least, for example we started the season with 10 strikers

Mark Hudson was a reasonably good player at Championship level. He was slow and ponderous but his positional sense was ok. However, he proved himself a very good Captain and leader. His career was finished when some clown, for best reasons known to them, brought him into the Premiership along with journeymen such as Andrew Taylor, Peter Whittingham and Nicky Maynard et al. The reasons why may be due to money but certainly not to merit. Hudson's career, as with the rest has suffered accordingly.

I don't think your quite giving him the credit he deserves as a player and not just a leader, in our promotion season his defending was heroic at times and he was also pretty cool on the ball and always found a simple pass. He didn't win player of the year for nothing!

Talk about OTT. He was a good championship player and captain who was getting on and becoming injury prone. Look at his stats for his last two seasons. He was even injured pre-season before he was sold. he is portrayed by as being like Rio Ferdinand at his peak. He was sold to make way for Manga; now that is a swap that I would make any day of the week. I just don't understand the Hudson hype.

I would have had no problem with swapping Hudson for Manga, but that summer we also payed 4 million for Sean Morrison.

With the transfer business that summer I don't think we can specifically say who left for who. It was sporadic to say the least, for example we started the season with 10 strikers

Mark Hudson was a reasonably good player at Championship level. He was slow and ponderous but his positional sense was ok. However, he proved himself a very good Captain and leader. His career was finished when some clown, for best reasons known to them, brought him into the Premiership along with journeymen such as Andrew Taylor, Peter Whittingham and Nicky Maynard et al. The reasons why may be due to money but certainly not to merit. Hudson's career, as with the rest has suffered accordingly.

I don't think your quite giving him the credit he deserves as a player and not just a leader, in our promotion season his defending was heroic at times and he was also pretty cool on the ball and always found a simple pass. He didn't win player of the year for nothing!

Talk about OTT. He was a good championship player and captain who was getting on and becoming injury prone. Look at his stats for his last two seasons. He was even injured pre-season before he was sold. he is portrayed by as being like Rio Ferdinand at his peak. He was sold to make way for Manga; now that is a swap that I would make any day of the week. I just don't understand the Hudson hype.

Looking at stats then,the fact we had the best defence in the league when he was at the heart of it. I'd say that was a pretty important stat!

Mark Hudson was a reasonably good player at Championship level. He was slow and ponderous but his positional sense was ok. However, he proved himself a very good Captain and leader. His career was finished when some clown, for best reasons known to them, brought him into the Premiership along with journeymen such as Andrew Taylor, Peter Whittingham and Nicky Maynard et al. The reasons why may be due to money but certainly not to merit. Hudson's career, as with the rest has suffered accordingly.

I don't think your quite giving him the credit he deserves as a player and not just a leader, in our promotion season his defending was heroic at times and he was also pretty cool on the ball and always found a simple pass. He didn't win player of the year for nothing!

Hi Nubbs,

No I didn't think him terrible as a player, he had his moments, a reasonably good Championship centre back. However I bet you wouldn't swap him for Manga! Different class altogether.

No defiantly not, Manga is a quality defender and we need to keep him. I would have kept him, not spent 4mill on Morrison and put him alongside Manga

Most disagree but I still think with Hudsons injuries and age it was the right decision to move him on. I wouldn't say defence was a problem last season more tactics and those in front of them. A CB set up of Manga, Conolly, Turner and Morison isn't bad for a championship team.
Personally I'd like to see Manga and Conolly together.

To answer your question I'm not a Morison fan but with experience he could become an asset at this level.

At last someone who agrees! We didn't miss Hudson, we missed someone with leadership qualities and someone to lift the team.

Well if ever I've read a contradiction, that was it.

Not a contradiction. What's the point keeping Hudson if he wasn't going to play, plus he was on 15k I think? We finished ahead of Huddersfield as well. Was injured throughout the whole of our Prem season and didn't make the step up.

Well that's my point, we should have kept him and played him in the league that he was proven in for us, both as a player and a leader. I don't think at a time when cardiff built up a ridiculous expensive squad of 47 players Hudsons wages were a concern and Huddersfields league position has no relevance to the argument.

Saying that we needed a leader and someone to lift the team but we didn't need hudson, is a contradiction. Because he had both those qualities in abundance, more so than anyone in our squad.

For him to get injured AGAIN? Our Championship winning season even when he was voted POTY, he was injured AGAIN for a few months, there has not been many seasons if not one season at his tenure at the club where he did not pick up an injury that put him out for a few weeks. Ole took a gamble selling him but it was because he was consistently injured and did not play much the season before

You think him getting injured was a concern of ole's when he signed players like pilkinton and dicakjo? Behave mate, he didn't rate him or value him and thought it was worth spending 4 million on Morrison instead because he basically had an open book and was like a child in a sweet shop. Hence we ended up with an over manned, unfit bunch of mercenaries.

Agree.

By the way, in my opinion the centre back pairing of Manga and Turner could be the best we have had for years. If only we could sort out our poor midfield we have a pretty good rear platform to build upon.