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Peter Whittngham

Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:33 pm

Whitts is a player that has divided opinion recently. Some think he should be dripped and is the reason for our midfield being so stale, but others think he should never be dropped.

Personally I think Whitts hasn't has a really commanding game for a while but I think part of that was confidence. The is no doubt he is a class act who can win us football matches and is a true bluebird, and we need some of that next season. His quality is immense and on his day he is the best midfielder in the league, but he must show some consistency.

He has the tendency to drift out of games. He can't afford to do that next season. Personally I would stick with Whitts in midfield. I think the lack of confidence in the side last year affected him and with a fresh start he can recapture his golden form. If he does not perform at the start of the season there are plenty of players who can take his place, O Keefe being one of them.

What do you think about Whitts? Does he deserve a place in the team? :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird: :sladein:

Re: Peter Whittngham

Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:17 pm

Not in a 4-4-2 system for me, but I do think our players suit either a 5-3-2 or a 4-2-3-1.

Whitts is not a 4-4-2 central midfielder but should be in our side

Re: Peter Whittngham

Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:18 pm

I prefer Joe Ralls and want Ralls to be the future but Whittingham's contribution over the years is not to go amiss

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:39 am

We have better options than him but doubt dickhead will see that :sladeout:

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:01 am

No matter how well Peter Whittingham plays it seems to me like it's only for half a season and after that he goes missing. Think Slade should take this opportunity to reinforce the midfield as and when he can. As far as dripping him is concerned i ain't got a clue mate lol.

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:21 am

He needs to start he keeps the ball better than anyone in a team where we seriously struggle for possesion. You can tell it's a confidence thing because his set peaces have been awful too.

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:50 am

I like Whitts, he is a class player and has stayed loyal to Cardiff City and I believe he cares for the club, however he did have a bad season last year but many didn't play their best.

Whitts also does well until about xmas once he is dropped for a few games he comes back good, he is a confidence player but he can in the past change a game round for us I would keep him.

I can not accept 442 451 formation talk a good player should be able to play all formations

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:59 am

valleyrambill wrote:I like Whitts, he is a class player and has stayed loyal to Cardiff City and I believe he cares for the club, however he did have a bad season last year but many didn't play their best.

Whitts also does well until about xmas once he is dropped for a few games he comes back good, he is a confidence player but he can in the past change a game round for us I would keep him.

I can not accept 442 451 formation talk a good player should be able to play all formations


Completely disagree, Whitts, no matter how high he is rated, has neither the pace or the tenacity to play in the middle of a 442 system

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:23 am

How did we do when whitts didn't play last season ?
I think we were 100% win rate if I'm not mistaken
So do we need whitts
Like f..k we do get rid of the over paid loser
What we save on his wages would get us three new players :sladein: :bluescarf: :bluebird:

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:24 am

BlueSince1908 wrote:I prefer Joe Ralls and want Ralls to be the future but Whittingham's contribution over the years is not to go amiss

:thumbup:

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:27 am

City Slicker wrote:We have better options than him but doubt dickhead will see that :sladeout:

Slade can't win, can he? If he drops Whitts everyone says it's the wrong decision, if he keeps with him, it's the wrong decision! :lol:

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:27 am

nubbsy wrote:He needs to start he keeps the ball better than anyone in a team where we seriously struggle for possesion. You can tell it's a confidence thing because his set peaces have been awful too.

He needs to work on getting his set pieces back where they used to be.

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:49 am

James the bluebird fan wrote:
City Slicker wrote:We have better options than him but doubt dickhead will see that :sladeout:

Slade can't win, can he? If he drops Whitts everyone says it's the wrong decision, if he keeps with him, it's the wrong decision! :lol:


No James he can win! If he drops Whittingham and goes for a better midfield formation we are likely to win more games and sit higher in the league. I suspect even the Whittingham supporters will accept that and back Slade then. :sladeout:

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:49 am

kick and rush, hard man in midfield...the game has moved on, its about possession and diving nowadays...Adapt or die.


whitts can play central midfield, but not with two lightweight wingers drifting in and out of the game. 442 is dead. Whitts plays well when we meet another dinosaur 442. When we play a 433 or 4231 we get over run and the moaners blame wHITTS.

Belgium with superior players couldn't match Colemans "modern" tactics last week when they played a more traditional set up.

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:34 pm

He's getting married today. All the best Whits!

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:10 pm

Whitts in a 442 will work in some games but mostly we get overrun. Not his fault it's down to team selection.

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:12 pm

2blue2handle wrote:Whitts in a 442 will work in some games but mostly we get overrun. Not his fault it's down to team selection.


Agree with this, he's not mobile or aggressive enough to play centre midfield in a 4-4-2. Think he would be ok left midfield though

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:37 pm

KBK-13 wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Whitts in a 442 will work in some games but mostly we get overrun. Not his fault it's down to team selection.


Agree with this, he's not mobile or aggressive enough to play centre midfield in a 4-4-2. Think he would be ok left midfield though


KBK how many more positions are we trying to pigeon hole this guy into just to keep his memory alive? If he doesn't perform at left midfield would someone be suggesting goalkeeper next? By the way, the guy whose initials you have assumed was a god. I wish he were still here instead of the guys we're talking about!

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:53 pm

City Slicker wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Whitts in a 442 will work in some games but mostly we get overrun. Not his fault it's down to team selection.


Agree with this, he's not mobile or aggressive enough to play centre midfield in a 4-4-2. Think he would be ok left midfield though


KBK how many more positions are we trying to pigeon hole this guy into just to keep his memory alive? If he doesn't perform at left midfield would someone be suggesting goalkeeper next? By the way, the guy whose initials you have assumed was a god. I wish he were still here instead of the guys we're talking about!


Most of our players are not 442 players.

Fabio
Whittingham
Gunnarson
Noone

These players are excellent championship players and would get in most sides, but look very average against the more modern formations.

The man in my name would be shocking for us, because he is not a winger or a central midfielder in a 442

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:06 pm

KBK-13 wrote:
City Slicker wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Whitts in a 442 will work in some games but mostly we get overrun. Not his fault it's down to team selection.


Agree with this, he's not mobile or aggressive enough to play centre midfield in a 4-4-2. Think he would be ok left midfield though


KBK how many more positions are we trying to pigeon hole this guy into just to keep his memory alive? If he doesn't perform at left midfield would someone be suggesting goalkeeper next? By the way, the guy whose initials you have assumed was a god. I wish he were still here instead of the guys we're talking about!


Most of our players are not 442 players.

Fabio
Whittingham
Gunnarson
Noone

These players are excellent championship players and would get in most sides, but look very average against the more modern formations.

The man in my name would be shocking for us, because he is not a winger or a central midfielder in a 442


Sorry you're wrong.

Fabio and Gunnarson are class acts, they would easily get into any Championship side. The other two are debatable. KBK on the other hand was a class above whst usually plays for City (much like Daehli was) and he's an out and out number 10. Good managers adopt a system to get the best out of their top players. We've had crap managers gor ages otherwise they would have got the best out of KBK. Quality snd Cardiff City are uneasy bedfellows.

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:03 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:How did we do when whitts didn't play last season ?
I think we were 100% win rate if I'm not mistaken
So do we need whitts
Like f..k we do get rid of the over paid loser
What we save on his wages would get us three new players :sladein: :bluescarf: :bluebird:

He missed 3 games ffs, what about the games we won when he played, anything to suit your own agenda, it's really getting boring now :sladeout:

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:44 pm

Has been a great servant to City,but I feel he is past his best and needs to be moved on

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:16 am

tenerife_blu wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:How did we do when whitts didn't play last season ?
I think we were 100% win rate if I'm not mistaken
So do we need whitts
Like f..k we do get rid of the over paid loser
What we save on his wages would get us three new players :sladein: :bluescarf: :bluebird:

He missed 3 games ffs, what about the games we won when he played, anything to suit your own agenda, it's really getting boring now :sladeout:

It's not boring it's fact ffs
There is more of a point in the fact that we won every game he didn't pay in
Than the fact we won some games he played in
How about I put it another way to make it easy for you
How many games did we lose when whitts did not play ? Answers on a post card please ( none actually )
How many games did we lose when he did play ? I will let you answer this
And if you think I have an agenda your right I would get rid of whitts as soon as possible and your agenda is to ridicule my agenda
I've told you before I do not reply to the poster I reply to the comments of the thread nothing personal chief :sladein: :bluescarf: :bluebird:

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:25 am

troobloo3339 wrote:How did we do when whitts didn't play last season ?
I think we were 100% win rate if I'm not mistaken
So do we need whitts
Like f..k we do get rid of the over paid loser
What we save on his wages would get us three new players :sladein: :bluescarf: :bluebird:


Can you believe it,I'm agreeing with Steve :lol:

Whittingham for me, goes missing on big occasions,laid back,past his best,but o his day can be quality,but not enough of those days.

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:50 am

troobloo3339 wrote:
tenerife_blu wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:How did we do when whitts didn't play last season ?
I think we were 100% win rate if I'm not mistaken
So do we need whitts
Like f..k we do get rid of the over paid loser
What we save on his wages would get us three new players :sladein: :bluescarf: :bluebird:

He missed 3 games ffs, what about the games we won when he played, anything to suit your own agenda, it's really getting boring now :sladeout:

It's not boring it's fact ffs
There is more of a point in the fact that we won every game he didn't pay in
Than the fact we won some games he played in
How about I put it another way to make it easy for you
How many games did we lose when whitts did not play ? Answers on a post card please ( none actually )
How many games did we lose when he did play ? I will let you answer this
And if you think I have an agenda your right I would get rid of whitts as soon as possible and your agenda is to ridicule my agenda
I've told you before I do not reply to the poster I reply to the comments of the thread nothing personal chief :sladein: :bluescarf: :bluebird:

Steve what you are saying there can be said about every other city player last season so it's not that valid is it. Whitts played in all but 3 games, yes all but 3 games which we were lucky enough to have won but one man don't make a team and personally I think it was a coincidence that we won those games without him rather than because of him so hardly a good example, look at all the other players stats that they did/didn't play in and see what you come up with. We were shit last season and not one player in our squad had a great game every game, including Whitts but to slag him off at every opportunity and never give him any credit when deserved is what I'm talking about when I say you have an agenda, against him, not me. All I can say is, he plays for Cardiff City, 4 managers including your hero Slade has built their teams around him, (they can't all be wrong, they obviously see something that you don't/can't :lol: ), yes he does go missing as do ALL the city players but to single him out at any given moment and never a positive when he does have a good game, (how many mom's did he get last season), is rather petty don't you think. And that my good friend is your agenda against Mr Peter Whittingham. :thumbup:
Almost forgot........ :sladeout: :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird: :digging2: :wave: :laughing6:

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:56 am

Forever Blue wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:How did we do when whitts didn't play last season ?
I think we were 100% win rate if I'm not mistaken
So do we need whitts
Like f..k we do get rid of the over paid loser
What we save on his wages would get us three new players :sladein: :bluescarf: :bluebird:


Can you believe it,I'm agreeing with Steve :lol:

Whittingham for me, goes missing on big occasions,laid back,past his best,but o his day can be quality,but not enough of those days.

Annis you need to look at the bigger picture, he does go missing and so do all of our players but Whitts for me is singled out all the time and he just doesn't deserve it, there are loads of reasons why in some games he went missing but I'm not going into that and I'm sure you know what I mean. Anyway, everyone has their own opinions on every player and I certainly have mine but I will not slag off any of our players especially the ones that could have left for better teams on more than one occasion. I really hope that all the Whitts haters are made to eat their words this season. :ayatollah:

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:03 am

Any good manager plays him when in form and then drops him when he is off form which all our managers have seemed reluctant to do cos he a dead ball specialist
we have others who can do that when he is off form

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:46 am

Cardiff dyskinesia wrote:
valleyrambill wrote:I like Whitts, he is a class player and has stayed loyal to Cardiff City and I believe he cares for the club, however he did have a bad season last year but many didn't play their best.

Whitts also does well until about xmas once he is dropped for a few games he comes back good, he is a confidence player but he can in the past change a game round for us I would keep him.

I can not accept 442 451 formation talk a good player should be able to play all formations


Completely disagree, Whitts, no matter how high he is rated, has neither the pace or the tenacity to play in the middle of a 442 system



...if you play a 442 you play whitts on the wing

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:59 am

tenerife_blu wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:How did we do when whitts didn't play last season ?
I think we were 100% win rate if I'm not mistaken
So do we need whitts
Like f..k we do get rid of the over paid loser
What we save on his wages would get us three new players :sladein: :bluescarf: :bluebird:


Can you believe it,I'm agreeing with Steve :lol:

Whittingham for me, goes missing on big occasions,laid back,past his best,but o his day can be quality,but not enough of those days.

Annis you need to look at the bigger picture, he does go missing and so do all of our players but Whitts for me is singled out all the time and he just doesn't deserve it, there are loads of reasons why in some games he went missing but I'm not going into that and I'm sure you know what I mean. Anyway, everyone has their own opinions on every player and I certainly have mine but I will not slag off any of our players especially the ones that could have left for better teams on more than one occasion. I really hope that all the Whitts haters are made to eat their words this season. :ayatollah:



I do agree Steve, Whitts is singled out,but I do believe its because he has so much talent,that we dont ever see enough of it.

Re: Peter Whittngham

Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:19 am

James the bluebird fan wrote:
City Slicker wrote:We have better options than him but doubt dickhead will see that :sladeout:

Slade can't win, can he? If he drops Whitts everyone says it's the wrong decision, if he keeps with him, it's the wrong decision! :lol:


I don't think Slade ever dropped Whitts did he?

The only time Slade didn't pick Whitts was when he was injured or suspended.