WALES - Together Stronger

The momentum has been building nicely, next Friday is one of the biggest games of the last 20 years. You have to give full credit to the players, particularly Gareth Bale, not just for his ability but just as important, the way that his enthusiasm and desire to win has rubbed off on the rest of the players and the fans. Anyone who was at any of the qualifying games and saw the way he was turning to the stands and whipping the fans up and the way he celebrated at the final whistle cannot fail to be exicited and encouraged by this.
Now us fans really have to do our bit, we really need to make CCS a cauldron of noise next Friday. Belt that anthem out like you never have before, cheer every pass, every corner, every shot. Boo every Belgium player. And forget club rivalry, nothing makes us look more small time than city and jacks squabbling.

I haven't been as excited about a game for years. Come on WALES!!

He should be captains without a doubt.

He should be captains without a doubt.

And heap more pressure and responsibility on him? I don't think that's a good idea.

Williams is the perfect captain. He's been Swansea captain for a few years, and led them well. He's also a centre-half, which is a good position for a captain.

The momentum has been building nicely, next Friday is one of the biggest games of the last 20 years. You have to give full credit to the players, particularly Gareth Bale, not just for his ability but just as important, the way that his enthusiasm and desire to win has rubbed off on the rest of the players and the fans. Anyone who was at any of the qualifying games and saw the way he was turning to the stands and whipping the fans up and the way he celebrated at the final whistle cannot fail to be exicited and encouraged by this.
Now us fans really have to do our bit, we really need to make CCS a cauldron of noise next Friday. Belt that anthem out like you never have before, cheer every pass, every corner, every shot. Boo every Belgium player. And forget club rivalry, nothing makes us look more small time than city and jacks squabbling.

I haven't been as excited about a game for years. Come on WALES!!

Great post, although reading the thread about the outside of the stadium we have plenty of fans who can't accept Ashley Williams playing for us and being captain.

For me he has never let us down and always turns up. On the other side you have James Collins who has decided to turn up now we are in with a chance

Great post!! Gave me goosbumps reading it!! I havent looked forward to a football game this much for some time!!

Like you said, people need to grow up and put club rivalry aside for the sake of the national team.

Let's make it an atmosphere to remember!!!!

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Absolutely buzzing for it! Come on the boys!

Nonsense, there was a thread on here about Ashley Williams a few weeks ago and there was almost unanimous praise for him. Every sensible City fan appreciates how good he's been for Wales recently.

After Bale and Ramsey, he's our next most important player.

He should be captains without a doubt.

And heap more pressure and responsibility on him? I don't think that's a good idea.

Williams is the perfect captain. He's been Swansea captain for a few years, and led them well. He's also a centre-half, which is a good position for a captain.

Bale would thrive on it, hardly pressure when he is already leading the team.

A Welsh persons should be captain, I struggle to support this Welsh team with him leading it.

While I think Williams has been a great captain (despite being a jack and english) we couldn't of asked for a better leader solid and club captain at his team but look at Bale at the end of the games and u can see it by the passion the fist clench the pumps means so much more to him in my opinion.
Would seem harsh to strip Williams this close to qualifying but definitely worth grooming Bale into the role

This love in is pathetic. Jack scum shouldn't even be in the national team. We should be trying to hide the six fingered inbreds away from the media spotlight to avoid bringing shame to our nation. This is why we can't have nice things.

He should be captains without a doubt.

And heap more pressure and responsibility on him? I don't think that's a good idea.

Williams is the perfect captain. He's been Swansea captain for a few years, and led them well. He's also a centre-half, which is a good position for a captain.

Spot on.
Why mess with something that works.
A team needs more than 1 leader.
Williams does a great job and is more experienced than Bale. Takes the pressure off him and Bale can lead from the front without having to deal with all the extra press.
I'm no lover of the JBs, but this is Wales, Swansea players and lads from Swansea are part of it, and make up a good chunk of the team.
Without them we wouldn't be in with a chance and it goes both ways for them too with Ramsey, Bale, Gunter, Ledley, Collins etc...
So let's just forget the rivalry just for a minute and cheer ALL the Wales team on to glory.

BTW we missed out on Williams who we were interested in before the Jacks.
Instead we went for Roger Johnson

He should be captains without a doubt.

And heap more pressure and responsibility on him? I don't think that's a good idea.

Williams is the perfect captain. He's been Swansea captain for a few years, and led them well. He's also a centre-half, which is a good position for a captain.

Bale would thrive on it, hardly pressure when he is already leading the team.

A Welsh persons should be captain, I struggle to support this Welsh team with him leading it.

You struggle to support our team!? You look at pretty much every team in the world theyle be someone born in another country playing for them, it's the way it is... Get over it! Williams does a great job for Wales and is respected by the players.

On that subject Matt Richie played for Scotland last night despite never having been there until a year ago !

It took me while to be convinced about Williams being captain but now I think he's absolutely the right choice as our captain. Wales Wales Wales can't wait for Friday

I'm not suggesting Bale be made captain, Williams is doing a perfectly good job, I couldn't care less if he plays for the jacks. The whole point is that the team is united, wether they play for Real Madrid, Arsenal, Crystal Palace or Swansea
City. They are doing thier bit, now the fans have to do ours. The pathetic squabbling between fans has been dying out over recent times, thank god, it was a bloody embarrassment.

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He should be captains without a doubt.

And heap more pressure and responsibility on him? I don't think that's a good idea.

Williams is the perfect captain. He's been Swansea captain for a few years, and led them well. He's also a centre-half, which is a good position for a captain.

Bale would thrive on it, hardly pressure when he is already leading the team.

A Welsh persons should be captain, I struggle to support this Welsh team with him leading it.

You struggle to support our team!? You look at pretty much every team in the world theyle be someone born in another country playing for them, it's the way it is... Get over it! Williams does a great job for Wales and is respected by the players.

I don't mind Williams playing as that seems to be the thing these days but to be captain or your country is a real honour and thats being taken away from someone. The very minimum international football should offer is a captain from that country.
I suppose it offers success so the fans don't care anymore, that's how football world now.

And no I won't get over it, it's my choice to not want to watch them so I won't. I've previously missed few home games and travellee abroad watching rubbish Wales teams.

But hey success is success.

On that subject Matt Richie played for Scotland last night despite never having been there until a year ago !

Yeah had to chuckle at that! Richie makes Williams seem like Max feckin Boyce in comparison.

On that subject Matt Richie played for Scotland last night despite never having been there until a year ago !

Was he captain?

WTF has being captain got to do with it. Do you know what a captain is?

It is a player that can organise and relay the managers instructions - on the pitch.... thats it. So to be happy with a foreign manager/coach (which almost everybody is these days) and then get annoyed that the captain wasn't born in the country is one of the most ridiculous contradictions there is.

And to suggest Bale as being captain is worthy of spitting my tea out all over the laptop. This isnt the school yard. It isnt, "the best player gets to be captain". This is professional football, where the best captain gets to be captain. Gareth Bale is an introvert and quiet as a mouse. The best captain is Ashley Williams, hence why he IS captain.

Ashley Williams is incredibly vocal, organises the side impeccably and is the most successful Welsh club captain in living memory. Anyone suggesting otherwise is just bitter and blinded by rivalry. If he was ours we would be loving the fact he was Wales captain. Get over it or keep the negativity away, we dont need "fans" like that.

#togetherstronger

I think being captain of your national team is a big issue actually.

You mean Bale who has been leading by example and calling all the players into huddles after games? Giving talks after games. I think if you watched the recent Wales games you would have seen Bale acting like a captain without the armband.

I think being captain of your national team is a big issue actually.

You mean Bale who has been leading by example and calling all the players into huddles after games? Giving talks after games. I think if you watched the recent Wales games you would have seen Bale acting like a captain without the armband.

It certainly is, who said otherwise? What was said is why is it an issue. If you are happy for a non Welsh born manager (which i assume you are) then your view of the captaincy is misguided - to be kind. The job of captaincy is to ensure the managers ethos and instructions are carried out at close quarters - this is why goalkeepers and centre backs make good captains as they can see the whole game in front of them.

I have not missed a Wales game home or away for 15 years be that going physically or watching on telly, and Williams is the most vocal captain I have ever seen. Bale is not captain material and Ramsey even less so, which is why neither captain their clubs and probably wont ever. Being captain isn't about calling a huddle or being the most famous or being the most gifted with ball at feet.

Some still live in the school play ground and never grow out of it. Get behind the boys, get behind the deserving captain and manager or stay away, we are all trying to build something here and these attitudes need to be purged and banished. They have held us back too long.

#togetherstronger

That's your opinion and your welcome to it, doesn't change mine. A Welsh team should have a Welsh captain, my opinion won't change.
A foreign manager can help Welsh players to develop and then the Welsh captain should relate that to the pitch, that's where you hopefully keep the Welsh link. Why not scrap it all and you can all support team GB.

If mentioning the school ground makes you feel better because someone disagrees that's fine. If you have seen all the Wales games you will have also seen him cock up a number of times and cost us many goals.

I know I'm losing a battle because we are successful. But like with city people only care about red or the important things when things are sh1t.

That's your opinion and your welcome to it, doesn't change mine. A Welsh team should have a Welsh captain, my opinion won't change.
A foreign manager can help Welsh players to develop and then the Welsh captain should relate that to the pitch, that's where you hopefully keep the Welsh link. Why not scrap it all and you can all support team GB.

If mentioning the school ground makes you feel better because someone disagrees that's fine. If you have seen all the Wales games you will have also seen him cock up a number of times and cost us many goals.

I know I'm losing a battle because we are successful. But like with city people only care about red or the important things when things are sh1t.

What difference does it make if the person relaying the managers information on the pitch was born in Wales or not? Genuine question. What actual difference does it make? none is the answer

You say a foreign manager can help the players develop, and I agree. The managers job should be given to the best manager available. Likewise the captaincy should be given to the best captain available, not the person who was born closest to a certain post code. Its a truly pathetic notion.

Id say every single player has cocked up in a Welsh shirt, in fact, that is the reason we havent qualified for a major tournament in the last half a century. What I will say however is he has been one of the finest center backs to ever pull on a welsh jersey since the professional era began over a century ago - and thats a fact. The ones that are currently "cocking up" are the fans holding these silly divisive bitter opinions, based largely on jealousy and bitterness.

If this was 10 years ago and Earnshaw was captain, nobody would bat an eyelid - and he wasnt even born on this continent.... let alone being born 45 mins outside Wales.

Your right. Let's just make team GB.

Might suit you but I have no interest in it.

But hey as long as we win.

WTF has being captain got to do with it. Do you know what a captain is?

It is a player that can organise and relay the managers instructions - on the pitch.... thats it. So to be happy with a foreign manager/coach (which almost everybody is these days) and then get annoyed that the captain wasn't born in the country is one of the most ridiculous contradictions there is.

And to suggest Bale as being captain is worthy of spitting my tea out all over the laptop. This isnt the school yard. It isnt, "the best player gets to be captain". This is professional football, where the best captain gets to be captain. Gareth Bale is an introvert and quiet as a mouse. The best captain is Ashley Williams, hence why he IS captain.

Ashley Williams is incredibly vocal, organises the side impeccably and is the most successful Welsh club captain in living memory. Anyone suggesting otherwise is just bitter and blinded by rivalry. If he was ours we would be loving the fact he was Wales captain. Get over it or keep the negativity away, we dont need "fans" like that.

#togetherstronger

Absolutely spot on. Nail on the head. I salute you sir!

I think being captain of your national team is a big issue actually.

You mean Bale who has been leading by example and calling all the players into huddles after games? Giving talks after games. I think if you watched the recent Wales games you would have seen Bale acting like a captain without the armband.

He called a huddle after the Bosnia game. That's the only time I can remember him doing it. After one game. It would most likely have happened anyway, Williams would've done it probably.

That's your opinion and your welcome to it, doesn't change mine. A Welsh team should have a Welsh captain, my opinion won't change.
A foreign manager can help Welsh players to develop and then the Welsh captain should relate that to the pitch, that's where you hopefully keep the Welsh link. Why not scrap it all and you can all support team GB.

If mentioning the school ground makes you feel better because someone disagrees that's fine. If you have seen all the Wales games you will have also seen him cock up a number of times and cost us many goals.

I know I'm losing a battle because we are successful. But like with city people only care about red or the important things when things are sh1t.

I bet he hasn't made as many as Collins, though.

I seem to remember the friendly against Iceland last year, when their equaliser was deflected in by him. But to be fair, that is hardly an error, just misfortune.

Can't really recall any other glaring mistakes in qualifiers (which, let's face it, are the only games that matter), aside from the own goal against Germany at home in 2009.

What is this team GB nonsense you are going on about? He has Welsh blood and was born and bred a stone throw away from the countries border. It is nothing like Team GB. If that is the rubbish you have to resort to in order to feel justified in your ridiculous opinion the so be it. I expect you kicked up a fuss with the inclusion of Earnshaw over the years right? You know, the African with no Welsh blood what so ever... No, didn't think you did.