Huns !

Nice to see the scum Rangers FC getting smashed at home this evening ! Losing 0-3 at present ! Let's hope they lose a couple more goals

Finished 3 one but still pleasing. Some crowd there,50,000 .

That goal could turn out to be really important. 3-0 and they were dead and buried. 3-1 and they've given themselves a chance.

Apparently, a lot of Celtic fans don't want them to return at any cost (even if it means a loss of revenue)

Is that down to their Swansea-like financial misdemeanours or just their fierce rivals kicking their neighbours when they are down??

Good luck Rangers

Was looking forward to Old Firm clashes next season and 12 easy points for Celtic , cant see them doing Motherwell away somehow though . They would struggle in SPL anyway as Ive heared Mike Ashley isn't going to invest anywhere near the amounts mentioned , perhaps next season's Rangers away kit will be black n white stripes

Come on you Gers

If Rangers aren't promoted the revenue the kiddy fiddling terrorist celtic scum would lose could damage them as much as Rangers. Although they could still claim a couple more trophies and pretend they are so good.

Only half way there but must admit was loving seeing them getting pumped last night. Hope they stay down, made my thought clear on the other thread regarding sevco. Horrid club.

Come on Rangers!

Apparently, a lot of Celtic fans don't want them to return at any cost (even if it means a loss of revenue)

Is that down to their Swansea-like financial misdemeanours or just their fierce rivals kicking their neighbours when they are down??

What about the Champions League revenue they'll get if they qualify?

great

Nice to see the scum Rangers FC getting smashed at home this evening ! Losing 0-3 at present ! Let's hope they lose a couple more goals

Rangers died in 2012, liquidated, finished forever, never coming back. I really couldn't give a crap about their reincarnation that currently plays out of ipox... Sevco 5088 or what ever their registered name is at companies house.

The way things are going Scotland will be independent before the newco get into the SPL...."The empires over why don't you go home" ringing around SPL grounds will be hilarious if they ever make it. Thou I suspect under the lying king and potless Paul Murray another insolvency event awaits.

Nice to see the scum Rangers FC getting smashed at home this evening ! Losing 0-3 at present ! Let's hope they lose a couple more goals

Rangers died in 2012, liquidated, finished forever, never coming back. I really couldn't give a crap about their reincarnation that currently plays out of ipox... Sevco 5088 or what ever their registered name is at companies house.

The way things are going Scotland will be independent before the newco get into the SPL...."The empires over why don't you go home" ringing around SPL grounds will be hilarious if they ever make it. Thou I suspect under the lying king and potless Paul Murray another insolvency event awaits.

According to the Scottish Courts, the High Court in London, numerous other judges that have investigated, HMRC, Scottish Football Association, Scottish Proffessional Football League, UEFA, FIFA etc, etc, Rangers are stil the same club. The company has changed - but not the club. You could point just down the road to Swansea City 2002 Ltd as an example of this. Even the Advertising Standards Agency agree and allow Rangers to promote themselves as "Scotland's most successful club".

But some anonymous poster on the Internet says otherwise. Hmmmm, wonder who to believe?

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Default The torpedos that sank the "new club" boat
For posterity...

Lord Nimmo Smith/Glennie/SPL:
http://tiny.cc/ojiipw - Extracts from NimmoSmith verdicts stating Rangers FC continues (JPG)
http://tiny.cc/4fgn9w - Lord Nimmo Smith's FIRST report, clarifying Gers as same club (PDF)
http://tiny.cc/fegn9w - Lord Nimmo Smith's SECOND concluding report, further emphasising Gers as same club (PDF)
http://tiny.cc/xn6kqw - SPL CEO Neil Doncaster: "It is an existing club, even though it's a new company" 1 minute in.
http://tiny.cc/0ko6xw - Lord Glennie - distinguishing between company and club

UEFA:
http://tiny.cc/ku8hdx - ASA describing UEFA position: "sporting continuity of club's match record" (JPG)
http://tiny.cc/2o8hdx - UEFA's email: newcoing is "a change to a club's legal form" (JPG)
http://tiny.cc/u8akpw - UEFA Rangers "Scottish Cup" squad (Elgin game) updated 8th Dec 2012 (LINK)
http://tiny.cc/r12kqw - UEFA's updated Scottish Cup squad (JPG)


SFL/SPFL:
http://tiny.cc/8h832w - SPFL Rangers home page - "Founded 1872" - Full trophy list (LINK)
http://tiny.cc/pyyzyw - Derek Longmuir, SFL CEO, congratulating Gers on 140 years.

SFA:

http://tiny.cc/otgn9w - Tom English ECA article stating "The SFA’s response was unambiguous. Different corporate entity but same Rangers"
http://tiny.cc/xn832w - SFA statement - Newco are "the new owners of the Rangers Football Club"
http://tiny.cc/b1kuyw - SFA 2013 Annual Review - RFC "entering liquidation and subsequently accommodated into SFL3"
http://tiny.cc/qdfjqw - SFA's Scottish Cup archive: Rangers FC record continuous into 2013. (JPG)
http://tiny.cc/gt3kqw - SFA Q&A: clarifying status of "Rangers FC" re. Div 3, 4 yrs of accounts, Scottish Cup entry (LINK)
http://tiny.cc/lu3kqw - SFA statement "full membership has been transferred". (LINK)

HMRC:
http://tiny.cc/cryzyw - "the liquidation route does not prejudice the proposed sale of the club. This sale [of Rangers FC] can take place either through a CVA or a liquidation." (LINK)

European Clubs Association:
http://tiny.cc/yw5kqw - "The organisation considers the club?s history to be continuous regardless of the change of company" (LINK)

Advertising Standards Authority:
http://tiny.cc/r3fn9w - Rangers' most successful club claim is rubber-stamped by the ASA (updated with UEFA clarification)

BBC - Independent report by Editorial Standards Committee:
http://tiny.cc/lezzyw - "where.. the BBC had made the distinction between an ?old? and ?new? Rangers.. club as opposed to the ?old? and ?new? company, ..due accuracy had not been achieved."

Malcolm Cohen - BDO Liquidator:
http://tiny.cc/z0u72w - "appointment of liquidators... only the end of the company that ran the club."

Neil Patey - Partner at Ernst and Young:
http://tiny.cc/x8u72w - "a newco in legal terms, but the club is a continution".
http://tiny.cc/0cv72w - Q & A with BBC, many quotes such as Green "bought the club", new owners etc.

Proof of post-liquidation survival precedents:
http://tiny.cc/5jnqqw - Leeds were liquidated/No CVA - KPMG source
http://www.mightyleeds.co.uk/pdf/sea...kpmgletter.pdf - Comprehensive account of Leeds liquidation/CVA failure
http://tiny.cc/7tpqqw - Arbitration case proving Leeds no CVA
http://www.theifo.co.uk/adjudication...llettfinal.pdf - Luton = No CVA (Same as Bournemouth/Rotherham/Leeds)
http://judgmental.org.uk/judgments/E...A_Civ_180.html Crystal Palace were also liquidated.
http://tiny.cc/9xp6xw (PDF) and http://tiny.cc/8cq6xw (JPG) - Portsmouth were also "liquidated" in 2010

Hearts founded 1874? Oldco liquidated/newco formed in 1905.
http://i.cubeupload.com/A4vVCx.jpg - Hearts old company wound up in 1905, newco formed (from official website history!)
http://i.cubeupload.com/P9Cxoa.jpg - Liquidator of Hearts old company detailed in Edinburgh Gazette

And finally....Dermot Desmond:
http://tiny.cc/vqo6xw - "A fantastic club with great history"

1-0 to Motherwell in the 2nd leg. Hard luck, staying down!!

No fun if you are a Hun!


Wish Hibs smashed them in semi.

Never mind, next season Hibs v Huns

Come on you ccsc

2-0 now!! Aye I wish we would have smashed then but had a poor first leg.

Finished 3-0, big fracas on the pitch at the end

Feel sorry for the rangers fans. Never nice when there's so much uncertainty surrounding the club you love.

Most other clubs I would agree but Rangers I couldn't care less about.