Thu May 14, 2015 6:53 pm
Thu May 14, 2015 7:01 pm
malky should of been sacked earlier when Tony pulis was available but most fans got behind malky dur to Their hatred of the rebrand a d we then missed the boatcarlccfc wrote:' THREE MAJOR MISTAKES '
Since Vincent Tan has been running Cardiff City I believe he has made three major mistakes that have been problematic for him personally or for the good of the club.
The three mistakes :
1. Rebrand
2. Failure to appoint a football man positioned between himself and the manager
3. The timing of the sacking of Malky Mackay
Regarding the first point, the Rebrand, I don't think any words can be said that have already not been done to death before, it was never a situation that the vast majority of City fans were ever comfortable with and coupled with the failure to turn debt to equity then Vincent Tan, maybe through ignorance or naivety, was never going to have fans onside and started a divide between the club and the fans and even between fans themselves that will, if ever, take years to repair.
I have always believed that since Peter Ridsdale left the club, and no I am not saying Ridsdale should have stayed on, there has been a hole left that has failed to be filled. I really believe that our club needed someone who could question the previous manager on the spending, certain signings and give a more independent view to the owner rather than trusting the manager and his policies wholeheartedly.
I have no doubt, due to the breakdown in trust between the two men that Vincent Tan had to sack Malky Mackay. With that said I still believe in my mind that Malky Mackay was the manager who had the best possible chance of keeping us in the Premier League, Tan should have bit his lip, held on to any information he had, put his personal feelings to one side for a limited time and played happy families to do the right thing for the club in its bid to avoid relegation and carried out the sacking at the end of that season or if we were safe before the end.
They are my opinions and there have been other mistakes but these three are the ones that have been the most damaging to the success of the club.
Thu May 14, 2015 7:05 pm
wez1927 wrote:malky should of been sacked earlier when Tony pulis was available but most fans got behind malky dur to Their hatred of the rebrand a d we then missed the boatcarlccfc wrote:' THREE MAJOR MISTAKES '
Since Vincent Tan has been running Cardiff City I believe he has made three major mistakes that have been problematic for him personally or for the good of the club.
The three mistakes :
1. Rebrand
2. Failure to appoint a football man positioned between himself and the manager
3. The timing of the sacking of Malky Mackay
Regarding the first point, the Rebrand, I don't think any words can be said that have already not been done to death before, it was never a situation that the vast majority of City fans were ever comfortable with and coupled with the failure to turn debt to equity then Vincent Tan, maybe through ignorance or naivety, was never going to have fans onside and started a divide between the club and the fans and even between fans themselves that will, if ever, take years to repair.
I have always believed that since Peter Ridsdale left the club, and no I am not saying Ridsdale should have stayed on, there has been a hole left that has failed to be filled. I really believe that our club needed someone who could question the previous manager on the spending, certain signings and give a more independent view to the owner rather than trusting the manager and his policies wholeheartedly.
I have no doubt, due to the breakdown in trust between the two men that Vincent Tan had to sack Malky Mackay. With that said I still believe in my mind that Malky Mackay was the manager who had the best possible chance of keeping us in the Premier League, Tan should have bit his lip, held on to any information he had, put his personal feelings to one side for a limited time and played happy families to do the right thing for the club in its bid to avoid relegation and carried out the sacking at the end of that season or if we were safe before the end.
They are my opinions and there have been other mistakes but these three are the ones that have been the most damaging to the success of the club.
Thu May 14, 2015 7:07 pm
Thu May 14, 2015 7:08 pm
Thu May 14, 2015 7:09 pm
Thu May 14, 2015 7:12 pm
Thu May 14, 2015 7:12 pm
carlccfc wrote:wez1927 wrote:malky should of been sacked earlier when Tony pulis was available but most fans got behind malky dur to Their hatred of the rebrand a d we then missed the boatcarlccfc wrote:' THREE MAJOR MISTAKES '
Since Vincent Tan has been running Cardiff City I believe he has made three major mistakes that have been problematic for him personally or for the good of the club.
The three mistakes :
1. Rebrand
2. Failure to appoint a football man positioned between himself and the manager
3. The timing of the sacking of Malky Mackay
Regarding the first point, the Rebrand, I don't think any words can be said that have already not been done to death before, it was never a situation that the vast majority of City fans were ever comfortable with and coupled with the failure to turn debt to equity then Vincent Tan, maybe through ignorance or naivety, was never going to have fans onside and started a divide between the club and the fans and even between fans themselves that will, if ever, take years to repair.
I have always believed that since Peter Ridsdale left the club, and no I am not saying Ridsdale should have stayed on, there has been a hole left that has failed to be filled. I really believe that our club needed someone who could question the previous manager on the spending, certain signings and give a more independent view to the owner rather than trusting the manager and his policies wholeheartedly.
I have no doubt, due to the breakdown in trust between the two men that Vincent Tan had to sack Malky Mackay. With that said I still believe in my mind that Malky Mackay was the manager who had the best possible chance of keeping us in the Premier League, Tan should have bit his lip, held on to any information he had, put his personal feelings to one side for a limited time and played happy families to do the right thing for the club in its bid to avoid relegation and carried out the sacking at the end of that season or if we were safe before the end.
They are my opinions and there have been other mistakes but these three are the ones that have been the most damaging to the success of the club.
So you agree Wez that the timing was wrong but you would have wanted the decision made earlier.
What about the other two points, do you agree with them ?
Thu May 14, 2015 7:17 pm
TopCat CCFC wrote:TG - Was a sad loss to the club.
Thu May 14, 2015 7:22 pm
wez1927 wrote:carlccfc wrote:wez1927 wrote:malky should of been sacked earlier when Tony pulis was available but most fans got behind malky dur to Their hatred of the rebrand a d we then missed the boatcarlccfc wrote:' THREE MAJOR MISTAKES '
Since Vincent Tan has been running Cardiff City I believe he has made three major mistakes that have been problematic for him personally or for the good of the club.
The three mistakes :
1. Rebrand
2. Failure to appoint a football man positioned between himself and the manager
3. The timing of the sacking of Malky Mackay
Regarding the first point, the Rebrand, I don't think any words can be said that have already not been done to death before, it was never a situation that the vast majority of City fans were ever comfortable with and coupled with the failure to turn debt to equity then Vincent Tan, maybe through ignorance or naivety, was never going to have fans onside and started a divide between the club and the fans and even between fans themselves that will, if ever, take years to repair.
I have always believed that since Peter Ridsdale left the club, and no I am not saying Ridsdale should have stayed on, there has been a hole left that has failed to be filled. I really believe that our club needed someone who could question the previous manager on the spending, certain signings and give a more independent view to the owner rather than trusting the manager and his policies wholeheartedly.
I have no doubt, due to the breakdown in trust between the two men that Vincent Tan had to sack Malky Mackay. With that said I still believe in my mind that Malky Mackay was the manager who had the best possible chance of keeping us in the Premier League, Tan should have bit his lip, held on to any information he had, put his personal feelings to one side for a limited time and played happy families to do the right thing for the club in its bid to avoid relegation and carried out the sacking at the end of that season or if we were safe before the end.
They are my opinions and there have been other mistakes but these three are the ones that have been the most damaging to the success of the club.
So you agree Wez that the timing was wrong but you would have wanted the decision made earlier.
What about the other two points, do you agree with them ?
Yes the rebrand shouldn't of happened but I understand why it did and why people including myself went along with it ,,I dont agree with the football man point as we did have success we got promoted
Thu May 14, 2015 7:25 pm
Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:carlccfc wrote:wez1927 wrote:malky should of been sacked earlier when Tony pulis was available but most fans got behind malky dur to Their hatred of the rebrand a d we then missed the boatcarlccfc wrote:' THREE MAJOR MISTAKES '
Since Vincent Tan has been running Cardiff City I believe he has made three major mistakes that have been problematic for him personally or for the good of the club.
The three mistakes :
1. Rebrand
2. Failure to appoint a football man positioned between himself and the manager
3. The timing of the sacking of Malky Mackay
Regarding the first point, the Rebrand, I don't think any words can be said that have already not been done to death before, it was never a situation that the vast majority of City fans were ever comfortable with and coupled with the failure to turn debt to equity then Vincent Tan, maybe through ignorance or naivety, was never going to have fans onside and started a divide between the club and the fans and even between fans themselves that will, if ever, take years to repair.
I have always believed that since Peter Ridsdale left the club, and no I am not saying Ridsdale should have stayed on, there has been a hole left that has failed to be filled. I really believe that our club needed someone who could question the previous manager on the spending, certain signings and give a more independent view to the owner rather than trusting the manager and his policies wholeheartedly.
I have no doubt, due to the breakdown in trust between the two men that Vincent Tan had to sack Malky Mackay. With that said I still believe in my mind that Malky Mackay was the manager who had the best possible chance of keeping us in the Premier League, Tan should have bit his lip, held on to any information he had, put his personal feelings to one side for a limited time and played happy families to do the right thing for the club in its bid to avoid relegation and carried out the sacking at the end of that season or if we were safe before the end.
They are my opinions and there have been other mistakes but these three are the ones that have been the most damaging to the success of the club.
So you agree Wez that the timing was wrong but you would have wanted the decision made earlier.
What about the other two points, do you agree with them ?
Yes the rebrand shouldn't of happened but I understand why it did and why people including myself went along with it ,,I dont agree with the football man point as we did have success we got promoted
Wez, so your agreeing Malky was the right manager![]()
Had we had a football man in, he would of over seen manager Malky and his transfers,we would prob not of ended up with useless managers like Ole and Slade.
Thu May 14, 2015 7:26 pm
Thu May 14, 2015 7:30 pm
wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:carlccfc wrote:wez1927 wrote:malky should of been sacked earlier when Tony pulis was available but most fans got behind malky dur to Their hatred of the rebrand a d we then missed the boatcarlccfc wrote:' THREE MAJOR MISTAKES '
Since Vincent Tan has been running Cardiff City I believe he has made three major mistakes that have been problematic for him personally or for the good of the club.
The three mistakes :
1. Rebrand
2. Failure to appoint a football man positioned between himself and the manager
3. The timing of the sacking of Malky Mackay
Regarding the first point, the Rebrand, I don't think any words can be said that have already not been done to death before, it was never a situation that the vast majority of City fans were ever comfortable with and coupled with the failure to turn debt to equity then Vincent Tan, maybe through ignorance or naivety, was never going to have fans onside and started a divide between the club and the fans and even between fans themselves that will, if ever, take years to repair.
I have always believed that since Peter Ridsdale left the club, and no I am not saying Ridsdale should have stayed on, there has been a hole left that has failed to be filled. I really believe that our club needed someone who could question the previous manager on the spending, certain signings and give a more independent view to the owner rather than trusting the manager and his policies wholeheartedly.
I have no doubt, due to the breakdown in trust between the two men that Vincent Tan had to sack Malky Mackay. With that said I still believe in my mind that Malky Mackay was the manager who had the best possible chance of keeping us in the Premier League, Tan should have bit his lip, held on to any information he had, put his personal feelings to one side for a limited time and played happy families to do the right thing for the club in its bid to avoid relegation and carried out the sacking at the end of that season or if we were safe before the end.
They are my opinions and there have been other mistakes but these three are the ones that have been the most damaging to the success of the club.
So you agree Wez that the timing was wrong but you would have wanted the decision made earlier.
What about the other two points, do you agree with them ?
Yes the rebrand shouldn't of happened but I understand why it did and why people including myself went along with it ,,I dont agree with the football man point as we did have success we got promoted
Wez, so your agreeing Malky was the right manager![]()
Had we had a football man in, he would of over seen manager Malky and his transfers,we would prob not of ended up with useless managers like Ole and Slade.
Malky was right for the championship but totally blew it with his transfer policy for the premiership ,ole was highly rated but didn't cut the mustard trying to turn us in to man utd and slade could come good ouraway form was much better under slade can't help thinking that the negativity has effected our home form hopefully next season will be different in blue and the real fans there
Thu May 14, 2015 7:32 pm
Thu May 14, 2015 7:45 pm
Thu May 14, 2015 7:55 pm
wez1927 wrote:malky should of been sacked earlier when Tony pulis was available but most fans got behind malky dur to Their hatred of the rebrand a d we then missed the boatcarlccfc wrote:' THREE MAJOR MISTAKES '
Since Vincent Tan has been running Cardiff City I believe he has made three major mistakes that have been problematic for him personally or for the good of the club.
The three mistakes :
1. Rebrand
2. Failure to appoint a football man positioned between himself and the manager
3. The timing of the sacking of Malky Mackay
Regarding the first point, the Rebrand, I don't think any words can be said that have already not been done to death before, it was never a situation that the vast majority of City fans were ever comfortable with and coupled with the failure to turn debt to equity then Vincent Tan, maybe through ignorance or naivety, was never going to have fans onside and started a divide between the club and the fans and even between fans themselves that will, if ever, take years to repair.
I have always believed that since Peter Ridsdale left the club, and no I am not saying Ridsdale should have stayed on, there has been a hole left that has failed to be filled. I really believe that our club needed someone who could question the previous manager on the spending, certain signings and give a more independent view to the owner rather than trusting the manager and his policies wholeheartedly.
I have no doubt, due to the breakdown in trust between the two men that Vincent Tan had to sack Malky Mackay. With that said I still believe in my mind that Malky Mackay was the manager who had the best possible chance of keeping us in the Premier League, Tan should have bit his lip, held on to any information he had, put his personal feelings to one side for a limited time and played happy families to do the right thing for the club in its bid to avoid relegation and carried out the sacking at the end of that season or if we were safe before the end.
They are my opinions and there have been other mistakes but these three are the ones that have been the most damaging to the success of the club.
Thu May 14, 2015 7:56 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:It wasn't a mistake sacking Malky. The mistake was employing Ole, but this is with hindsight. At the time I had high hopes for Ole but he proved to be clueless.
Thu May 14, 2015 7:57 pm
with hindsight yes but ole was one of the hottest mangers in Europe at the time just didn't happen for him hereCarpe Diem wrote:It wasn't a mistake sacking Malky. The mistake was employing Ole, but this is with hindsight. At the time I had high hopes for Ole but he proved to be clueless.
Thu May 14, 2015 8:01 pm
Thu May 14, 2015 8:04 pm
Thu May 14, 2015 8:09 pm
Thu May 14, 2015 8:29 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:It wasn't a mistake sacking Malky. The mistake was employing Ole, but this is with hindsight. At the time I had high hopes for Ole but he proved to be clueless.
Thu May 14, 2015 8:55 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:It wasn't a mistake sacking Malky. The mistake was employing Ole, but this is with hindsight. At the time I had high hopes for Ole but he proved to be clueless.
Thu May 14, 2015 9:58 pm
Thu May 14, 2015 10:30 pm
wez1927 wrote:with hindsight yes but ole was one of the hottest mangers in Europe at the time just didn't happen for him hereCarpe Diem wrote:It wasn't a mistake sacking Malky. The mistake was employing Ole, but this is with hindsight. At the time I had high hopes for Ole but he proved to be clueless.
Thu May 14, 2015 11:11 pm
Thu May 14, 2015 11:58 pm
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And the ridiculous prices which had gone up 200 pound within over 3 seasons
Fri May 15, 2015 6:14 am
Bakedalasker wrote:1. Rebrand
2. Failure to appoint a football man positioned between himself and the manager
3. The timing of the sacking of Malky Mackay
2,3,1 in the order.
Personally I feel if we had kept the calibre of Ridsdale we would have most likely had a better manager than Malky who would have taken us up.
For me Malkys sacking was the wrong thing to do at the time. Malkys only real mistake was never finding that goal scorer for us. Miller cost us, Maynard was unlucky and Acorn perhaps summed up MM luck in that department. An average striker compared to what we had under Mackey and we would have been ok.
The rebrand to me was was going to be a failure only when we started to struggle. A couple of seasons in the premier and we would have been a red club. It would have been too much for me.
Fri May 15, 2015 6:26 am
Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:carlccfc wrote:wez1927 wrote:malky should of been sacked earlier when Tony pulis was available but most fans got behind malky dur to Their hatred of the rebrand a d we then missed the boatcarlccfc wrote:' THREE MAJOR MISTAKES '
Since Vincent Tan has been running Cardiff City I believe he has made three major mistakes that have been problematic for him personally or for the good of the club.
The three mistakes :
1. Rebrand
2. Failure to appoint a football man positioned between himself and the manager
3. The timing of the sacking of Malky Mackay
Regarding the first point, the Rebrand, I don't think any words can be said that have already not been done to death before, it was
well annis young inexperienced and managing at a higher level for the first time and you give him allyour support
other than the young bityou could be talking about slade here , but we all, know yourboppinions of him hmmmmmm![]()
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never a situation that the vast majority of City fans were ever comfortable with and coupled with the failure to turn debt to equity
then Vincent Tan, maybe through ignorance or naivety, was never going to have fans onside and started a divide between the club
and the fans and even between fans themselves that will, if ever, take years to repair.
I have always believed that since Peter Ridsdale left the club, and no I am not saying Ridsdale should have stayed on, there has been a hole left that has failed to be filled. I really believe that our club needed someone who could question the previous manager on the spending, certain signings and give a more independent view to the owner rather than trusting the manager and his policies wholeheartedly.
I have no doubt, due to the breakdown in trust between the two men that Vincent Tan had to sack Malky Mackay. With that said I still believe in my mind that Malky Mackay was the manager who had the best possible chance of keeping us in the Premier League, Tan should have bit his lip, held on to any information he had, put his personal feelings to one side for a limited time and played happy families to do the right thing for the club in its bid to avoid relegation and carried out the sacking at the end of that season or if we were safe before the end.
They are my opinions and there have been other mistakes but these three are the ones that have been the most damaging to the success of the club.
So you agree Wez that the timing was wrong but you would have wanted the decision made earlier.
What about the other two points, do you agree with them ?
Yes the rebrand shouldn't of happened but I understand why it did and why people including myself went along with it ,,I dont agree with the football man point as we did have success we got promoted
Wez, so your agreeing Malky was the right manager![]()
Had we had a football man in, he would of over seen manager Malky and his transfers,we would prob not of ended up with useless managers like Ole and Slade.
Malky was right for the championship but totally blew it with his transfer policy for the premiership ,ole was highly rated but didn't cut the mustard trying to turn us in to man utd and slade could come good ouraway form was much better under slade can't help thinking that the negativity has effected our home form hopefully next season will be different in blue and the real fans there
Wez, I gathered you would say that.
Malky was young/naive,never managed in Prem before and still learning, thats why Tan needed a football man in the club to over see![]()
Fri May 15, 2015 6:40 am