so voting is not anonymous like we are led to believe

my number is put along side the number of the voting slip i am given.....so a cross reference can be made......apparently only a high court judge can ask for this to be referenced.....yerrrr o.k.....

So that's why Farage guessed that a lot of votes for him came from girls under 30??!!!

40m+ voters and you think they 'cross-reference' every one of them?!?!

That would be paranoia in the extreme!

my number is put along side the number of the voting slip i am given.....so a cross reference can be made......apparently only a high court judge can ask for this to be referenced.....yerrrr o.k.....

Krabb, is that factually 100% true mate?

I always thought that as you went into the polling station, you were issued with an unmarked unnumbered voting paper after they checked off your name and number on their voter record sheet.

So, the actual paper that you put your cross on is untraceable ?

Blooobirds Forever !!!

40m+ voters and you think they 'cross-reference' every one of them?!?!

That would be paranoia in the extreme!

not at all,but if you vote for a certain party then the authorities have the abillity to identify ......not hard is it...

my number is put along side the number of the voting slip i am given.....so a cross reference can be made......apparently only a high court judge can ask for this to be referenced.....yerrrr o.k.....

Krabb, is that factually 100% true mate?

I always thought that as you went into the polling station, you were issued with an unmarked unnumbered voting paper after they checked off your name and number on their voter record sheet.

So, the actual paper that you put your cross on is untraceable ?

Blooobirds Forever !!!

when you go in you number off voting card is then put against a number that is on your voting slip......i was told this is in case of inproper voting then a high court judge can investigate.....100 % correct....

my number is put along side the number of the voting slip i am given.....so a cross reference can be made......apparently only a high court judge can ask for this to be referenced.....yerrrr o.k.....

Krabb, is that factually 100% true mate?

I always thought that as you went into the polling station, you were issued with an unmarked unnumbered voting paper after they checked off your name and number on their voter record sheet.

So, the actual paper that you put your cross on is untraceable ?

Blooobirds Forever !!!

when you go in you number off voting card is then put against a number that is on your voting slip......i was told this is in case of inproper voting then a high court judge can investigate.....100 % correct....

Well that just makes a mockery of a secret ballot and if you think about what has happened in past recent history, is also quite frightening - could be used against you. Just look at what happened in Germany.

Blooobirds Foever !!!

http://www.theguardian.com/notesandquer ... 51,00.html

Yep you can be traced.
They are watching you!

my number is put along side the number of the voting slip i am given.....so a cross reference can be made......apparently only a high court judge can ask for this to be referenced.....yerrrr o.k.....

Krabb, is that factually 100% true mate?

I always thought that as you went into the polling station, you were issued with an unmarked unnumbered voting paper after they checked off your name and number on their voter record sheet.

So, the actual paper that you put your cross on is untraceable ?

Blooobirds Forever !!!

when you go in you number off voting card is then put against a number that is on your voting slip......i was told this is in case of inproper voting then a high court judge can investigate.....100 % correct....

Well that just makes a mockery of a secret ballot and if you think about what has happened in past recent history, is also quite frightening - could be used against you. Just look at what happened in Germany.

Blooobirds Foever !!!

my point exactly....

How did people not know that?

If it was anonymous someone could just subtract a load of votes and add votes for party X.

How did people not know that?

If it was anonymous someone could just subtract a load of votes and add votes for party X.

there should be no cross reference......had your voting slip in should be enough.....no need for a serial number on voting slip....not difficult is it

How did people not know that?

If it was anonymous someone could just subtract a load of votes and add votes for party X.

there should be no cross reference......had your voting slip in should be enough.....no need for a serial number on voting slip....not difficult is it

And opens it up for tons of fraud that's why it's the way it is.

Just being curious...
How many Muslim women in full face veils voted ...how would anyone know .
Not a racist post just wondered.

40m+ voters and you think they 'cross-reference' every one of them?!?!

That would be paranoia in the extreme!

not at all,but if you vote for a certain party then the authorities have the abillity to identify ......not hard is it...

My point is, what would they possibly gain from it and how would they use the information?

The only reason for the numbers is to ensure anti-fraud measures are in place

The Voting Slip you are given would have been someone else's if you had been 5 minutes earlier/later arriving at the Poll Station and the votes are locked away once they are counted...or do you think they really go somewhere to be gone through with a fine tooth comb, so that Big Brother can tell which Constituents voted for them or not? And any 'stats' can easily be gained from the 'Count' itself!

Just isn't credible that the authorities are collating info on who voted for who

Gower constituency was won by 27 votes, in the past there have been even tighter results. If it came to light that there had been 30 votes by people impersonating deceased electors (or others who did not vote) the only way to find out if the election result was affected would be to obtain a court order during the next year to open up the container holding the tens of thousands of votes and find the voting slips used for those 30 votes. That would be a lot of work but it would allow a court to decide if the result should be changed. This can only be achieved because the poll clerks write the voting register number on the voting slip.

As a society we have a choice as our local and national elections can be:
(1) 100% anonymous - in which case it is not possible to tell if any fraud had an impact on the result; OR
(2) legally protected anonymous - so that only a court order (exceedingly rare and always in public) can authorise the investigation of suspected fraud.

We cannot have both, we have to select one. On balance I much prefer the second option.

Gower constituency was won by 27 votes, in the past there have been even tighter results. If it came to light that there had been 30 votes by people impersonating deceased electors (or others who did not vote) the only way to find out if the election result was affected would be to obtain a court order during the next year to open up the container holding the tens of thousands of votes and find the voting slips used for those 30 votes. That would be a lot of work but it would allow a court to decide if the result should be changed. This can only be achieved because the poll clerks write the voting register number on the voting slip.

As a society we have a choice as our local and national elections can be:
(1) 100% anonymous - in which case it is not possible to tell if any fraud had an impact on the result; OR
(2) legally protected anonymous - so that only a court order (exceedingly rare and always in public) can authorise the investigation of suspected fraud.

We cannot have both, we have to select one. On balance I much prefer the second option.

Well said

I worked in a polling station on election day ,it would be hard to match the numbers with ballot papers but it could be done ,but if yr guilty of electoral fraud then u have committed a crime anyway ,if not u don't have a problem .
Its one of the most commonly asked questions and hardly anyone is happy with the official answer.
Its a strange and archaic system but it works