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Cardiff City Supporters Trust hit out at director Steve Borley after public Twitter spat
14 April 2015

Steve Tucker

Cardiff City board member Steve Borley and the club's Supporters' Trust became embroiled in a public spat on Monday evening following the Trust's demands over the club's future
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Cardiff City board member Steve Borley

Cardiff City Supporters Trust have hit out at former Bluebirds chairman and long-serving Board member Steve Borley after a bitter public spat was played out on social media.

This is interesting Annis.

Could you get someone to cut and paste what the actual full Trust statement is , so people can see that the term "demand" was not used (the press added that) and most of what Gwyn posted on Twitter about it is simply (and deliberately) misleading and inaccurate.

The statement said that the club had a need to cut back on costs and is appreciative of the start the club made to repair the severe damage the rebrand caused to its relationship with the fanbase. It asks for that work to be speeded up and to clarify if this cost cutting is to be long term or just for a year or so until the club gets back on a stronger financial footing (including by instigating the long promised debt to equity conversion to make the club solvent) before trying to move forward again on and off the field in the future.

There is no request for detailed financial or other confidential information to be disclosed , just that the overall strategy short and long term be made clear to fans (rather than them just hearing of events through the media and therefore causing "knee jerk" reactions in response).

Keith

This is interesting Annis.

Could you get someone to cut and paste what the actual full Trust statement is , so people can see that the term "demand" was not used (the press added that) and most of what Gwyn posted on Twitter about it is simply (and deliberately) misleading and inaccurate.

The statement said that the club had a need to cut back on costs and is appreciative of the start the club made to repair the severe damage the rebrand caused to its relationship with the fanbase. It asks for that work to be speeded up and to clarify if this cost cutting is to be long term or just for a year or so until the club gets back on a stronger financial footing (including by instigating the long promised debt to equity conversion to make the club solvent) before trying to move forward again on and off the field in the future.

There is no request for detailed financial or other confidential information to be disclosed , just that the overall strategy short and long term be made clear to fans (rather than them just hearing of events through the media and therefore causing "knee jerk" reactions in response).

Keith

Keith, I'm in the car travelling to Ipswich on someone elses ph

Can u post a new topic with it on and I will stick it

This is interesting Annis.

Could you get someone to cut and paste what the actual full Trust statement is , so people can see that the term "demand" was not used (the press added that) and most of what Gwyn posted on Twitter about it is simply (and deliberately) misleading and inaccurate.

The statement said that the club had a need to cut back on costs and is appreciative of the start the club made to repair the severe damage the rebrand caused to its relationship with the fanbase. It asks for that work to be speeded up and to clarify if this cost cutting is to be long term or just for a year or so until the club gets back on a stronger financial footing (including by instigating the long promised debt to equity conversion to make the club solvent) before trying to move forward again on and off the field in the future.

There is no request for detailed financial or other confidential information to be disclosed , just that the overall strategy short and long term be made clear to fans (rather than them just hearing of events through the media and therefore causing "knee jerk" reactions in response).

Keith

Hi Keith,
I'm with Annis right now, do you know where the statement is so we can copy and paste it and make it a sticky?

Cheers
Steve

This is interesting Annis.

Could you get someone to cut and paste what the actual full Trust statement is , so people can see that the term "demand" was not used (the press added that) and most of what Gwyn posted on Twitter about it is simply (and deliberately) misleading and inaccurate.

The statement said that the club had a need to cut back on costs and is appreciative of the start the club made to repair the severe damage the rebrand caused to its relationship with the fanbase. It asks for that work to be speeded up and to clarify if this cost cutting is to be long term or just for a year or so until the club gets back on a stronger financial footing (including by instigating the long promised debt to equity conversion to make the club solvent) before trying to move forward again on and off the field in the future.

There is no request for detailed financial or other confidential information to be disclosed , just that the overall strategy short and long term be made clear to fans (rather than them just hearing of events through the media and therefore causing "knee jerk" reactions in response).

Keith

Hi Keith,
I'm with Annis right now, do you know where the statement is so we can copy and paste it and make it a sticky?

Cheers
Steve

Apr

2015

Here is the trust statement, no mention of DEMAND in the statement, I believe the word DEMAND was used by Jamie Kemble and then used by Steve Borley to show the difference in ways the trust Demand but the supporters, and travel clubs Engage




download/file.php?id=17199



Set out a blueprint for club future, say Trust
Posted by admin in Trust News
This season promised so much at Cardiff City but has sadly delivered very little with the only real positive the return to blue.
In recent times players have been suddenly loaned out for what we have been told are business reasons while other players have departed permanently to reduce the wage bill.
We fully appreciate the need for the club to operate on a more sustainable footing in the future following heavy investment by the owner, Vincent Tan, in recent years.
But, as fans we deserve a detailed explanation on the way forward for our club – a vision on where Cardiff City will be in a year, three years and five years. The club needs to be open and state clearly what its ideas are for rebuilding. Are there plans, for instance, to dispose of more of our more high profile players in the run-up to the new season?
We fear that without a blueprint for the future loyal fans, many of whom have been season ticket holders for years, will just stop coming to games and attendances will dwindle further next season. Fans have told us they are concerned about the quality of football this season.
Cardiff City has to become a club where everyone is pulling together – and fans need to have hope that things will get better sooner rather than later.
The club has started a process of re-engagement with fans after the rebranding and we acknowledge the return to blue and the development of a new badge. But it is our belief that the owner and senior executives need to go much further and quicken the pace.
We are disappointed at the lack of promised fans’ forums and Russell Slade’s apparent reluctance to meet with the fans. There also still seems no date when the club’s enormous debt will be converted into equity and members are asking us what has happened to the money from the Premier League season and parachute payments.
The re-engagement with fans should include having an elected supporter director on the board, to act as a powerful voice for ordinary fans, as soon as possible. This must not be allowed to drift if fans are not to be disillusioned further with a continuance of what some see as a separation between the club and its supporters.
Without supporters once again feeling that Cardiff City is their club, we fear, as stated, that many fans will just stay away.
Therefore, we invite the club to keep its supporters and the Trust fully informed of its plans and to take every opportunity to make constructive use of the goodwill and the desire to help which undoubtedly exists.

This is interesting Annis.

Could you get someone to cut and paste what the actual full Trust statement is , so people can see that the term "demand" was not used (the press added that) and most of what Gwyn posted on Twitter about it is simply (and deliberately) misleading and inaccurate.

The statement said that the club had a need to cut back on costs and is appreciative of the start the club made to repair the severe damage the rebrand caused to its relationship with the fanbase. It asks for that work to be speeded up and to clarify if this cost cutting is to be long term or just for a year or so until the club gets back on a stronger financial footing (including by instigating the long promised debt to equity conversion to make the club solvent) before trying to move forward again on and off the field in the future.

There is no request for detailed financial or other confidential information to be disclosed , just that the overall strategy short and long term be made clear to fans (rather than them just hearing of events through the media and therefore causing "knee jerk" reactions in response).

Keith

Hi Keith,
I'm with Annis right now, do you know where the statement is so we can copy and paste it and make it a sticky?

Cheers
Steve

Apr

2015

Here is the trust statement, no mention of DEMAND in the statement, I believe the word DEMAND was used by Jamie Kemble and then used by Steve Borley to show the difference in ways the trust Demand but the supporters, and travel clubs Engage




download/file.php?id=17199



Set out a blueprint for club future, say Trust
Posted by admin in Trust News
This season promised so much at Cardiff City but has sadly delivered very little with the only real positive the return to blue.
In recent times players have been suddenly loaned out for what we have been told are business reasons while other players have departed permanently to reduce the wage bill.
We fully appreciate the need for the club to operate on a more sustainable footing in the future following heavy investment by the owner, Vincent Tan, in recent years.
But, as fans we deserve a detailed explanation on the way forward for our club – a vision on where Cardiff City will be in a year, three years and five years. The club needs to be open and state clearly what its ideas are for rebuilding. Are there plans, for instance, to dispose of more of our more high profile players in the run-up to the new season?
We fear that without a blueprint for the future loyal fans, many of whom have been season ticket holders for years, will just stop coming to games and attendances will dwindle further next season. Fans have told us they are concerned about the quality of football this season.
Cardiff City has to become a club where everyone is pulling together – and fans need to have hope that things will get better sooner rather than later.
The club has started a process of re-engagement with fans after the rebranding and we acknowledge the return to blue and the development of a new badge. But it is our belief that the owner and senior executives need to go much further and quicken the pace.
We are disappointed at the lack of promised fans’ forums and Russell Slade’s apparent reluctance to meet with the fans. There also still seems no date when the club’s enormous debt will be converted into equity and members are asking us what has happened to the money from the Premier League season and parachute payments.
The re-engagement with fans should include having an elected supporter director on the board, to act as a powerful voice for ordinary fans, as soon as possible. This must not be allowed to drift if fans are not to be disillusioned further with a continuance of what some see as a separation between the club and its supporters.
Without supporters once again feeling that Cardiff City is their club, we fear, as stated, that many fans will just stay away.
Therefore, we invite the club to keep its supporters and the Trust fully informed of its plans and to take every opportunity to make constructive use of the goodwill and the desire to help which undoubtedly exists.

One of the sadder aspects of this is that if Steve Borley bothered to turn up to any of the regular meetings held by the club's Chairman,CEO and other senior management with the Trust, CCSC and other supporter groups he would be well aware that matters are discussed in a constructive way and engagement comes from all parties represented in equal measures.
In the past Steve has commented on such meetings on Twitter without having been there and so posted quite a lot of inaccuracies as to What went on.Even when the minutes come out some time later , I have never seem him retract anything he got badly wrong.

This is interesting Annis.

Could you get someone to cut and paste what the actual full Trust statement is , so people can see that the term "demand" was not used (the press added that) and most of what Gwyn posted on Twitter about it is simply (and deliberately) misleading and inaccurate.

The statement said that the club had a need to cut back on costs and is appreciative of the start the club made to repair the severe damage the rebrand caused to its relationship with the fanbase. It asks for that work to be speeded up and to clarify if this cost cutting is to be long term or just for a year or so until the club gets back on a stronger financial footing (including by instigating the long promised debt to equity conversion to make the club solvent) before trying to move forward again on and off the field in the future.

There is no request for detailed financial or other confidential information to be disclosed , just that the overall strategy short and long term be made clear to fans (rather than them just hearing of events through the media and therefore causing "knee jerk" reactions in response).

Keith

Keith, in fairness to ' the press ' I think the word ' demand ' came from Steve Borley's reply to one of the tweets from the trust's Twitter feed, where he said that the trust is good on demanding but short on delivering.

I don't know if it has been answered but I have seen two names that are apparently the person that is behind the trusts Twitter account, would you like ( if you know ) tell people who is actually tweeting on behalf of the trust and also if their view is representative of the trust as a whole.

What did they expect with a childish spout in social media, more bad press for the club and fans to read

So unprofessional.
It's like school kids on Facebook.

This is interesting Annis.

Could you get someone to cut and paste what the actual full Trust statement is , so people can see that the term "demand" was not used (the press added that) and most of what Gwyn posted on Twitter about it is simply (and deliberately) misleading and inaccurate.

The statement said that the club had a need to cut back on costs and is appreciative of the start the club made to repair the severe damage the rebrand caused to its relationship with the fanbase. It asks for that work to be speeded up and to clarify if this cost cutting is to be long term or just for a year or so until the club gets back on a stronger financial footing (including by instigating the long promised debt to equity conversion to make the club solvent) before trying to move forward again on and off the field in the future.

There is no request for detailed financial or other confidential information to be disclosed , just that the overall strategy short and long term be made clear to fans (rather than them just hearing of events through the media and therefore causing "knee jerk" reactions in response).

Keith

Hi Keith,
I'm with Annis right now, do you know where the statement is so we can copy and paste it and make it a sticky?

Cheers
Steve

Apr

2015

Here is the trust statement, no mention of DEMAND in the statement, I believe the word DEMAND was used by Jamie Kemble and then used by Steve Borley to show the difference in ways the trust Demand but the supporters, and travel clubs Engage




download/file.php?id=17199



Set out a blueprint for club future, say Trust
Posted by admin in Trust News
This season promised so much at Cardiff City but has sadly delivered very little with the only real positive the return to blue.
In recent times players have been suddenly loaned out for what we have been told are business reasons while other players have departed permanently to reduce the wage bill.
We fully appreciate the need for the club to operate on a more sustainable footing in the future following heavy investment by the owner, Vincent Tan, in recent years.
But, as fans we deserve a detailed explanation on the way forward for our club – a vision on where Cardiff City will be in a year, three years and five years. The club needs to be open and state clearly what its ideas are for rebuilding. Are there plans, for instance, to dispose of more of our more high profile players in the run-up to the new season?
We fear that without a blueprint for the future loyal fans, many of whom have been season ticket holders for years, will just stop coming to games and attendances will dwindle further next season. Fans have told us they are concerned about the quality of football this season.
Cardiff City has to become a club where everyone is pulling together – and fans need to have hope that things will get better sooner rather than later.
The club has started a process of re-engagement with fans after the rebranding and we acknowledge the return to blue and the development of a new badge. But it is our belief that the owner and senior executives need to go much further and quicken the pace.
We are disappointed at the lack of promised fans’ forums and Russell Slade’s apparent reluctance to meet with the fans. There also still seems no date when the club’s enormous debt will be converted into equity and members are asking us what has happened to the money from the Premier League season and parachute payments.
The re-engagement with fans should include having an elected supporter director on the board, to act as a powerful voice for ordinary fans, as soon as possible. This must not be allowed to drift if fans are not to be disillusioned further with a continuance of what some see as a separation between the club and its supporters.
Without supporters once again feeling that Cardiff City is their club, we fear, as stated, that many fans will just stay away.
Therefore, we invite the club to keep its supporters and the Trust fully informed of its plans and to take every opportunity to make constructive use of the goodwill and the desire to help which undoubtedly exists.

I cant see too much wrong with this statement. An over reaction by this guy Borley maybe>