Whitts excellent today !

Never lost the ball, always available and superb corners all game . Both goals came from corners !
Linked well with Mason . Could it be that we have lacked a skillful frontman that can find space and control the ball ?

Never lost the ball, always available and superb corners all game . Both goals came from corners !
Linked well with Mason . Could it be that we have lacked a skillful frontman that can find space and control the ball ?

Were you at the game boothstownblue?

How was the atmosphere with only home fans there (except the few who sneaked in)?

Never lost the ball, always available and superb corners all game . Both goals came from corners !
Linked well with Mason . Could it be that we have lacked a skillful frontman that can find space and control the ball ?

Were you at the game boothstownblue?

How was the atmosphere with only home fans there (except the few who sneaked in)?

probably better than we manage at home

Never lost the ball, always available and superb corners all game . Both goals came from corners !
Linked well with Mason . Could it be that we have lacked a skillful frontman that can find space and control the ball ?

Were you at the game boothstownblue?



How was the atmosphere with only home fans there (except the few who sneaked in)?

Atmosphere was poor but so was the game.
Funny moment from the crowd was when fans from behind the goal chanted to their own fans "we forgot that you were here" when they actually made some noise.

fair enough. but we need better than a player that plays 1 good game in 10

fair enough. but we need better than a player that plays 1 good game in 10

Spot on. He has a good game once in every 10 games and people rave about him like we have got a young diego maradona playing in the cente of the park.

Lacks all the attributes to be a consistent performer for us and 9 games out of 10 hes anonymous, needs replacing next season if we are aiming for promotion simple as that imo.

fair enough. but we need better than a player that plays 1 good game in 10

Spot on. He has a good game once in every 10 games and people rave about him like we have got a young diego maradona playing in the cente of the park.

Lacks all the attributes to be a consistent performer for us and 9 games out of 10 hes anonymous, needs replacing next season if we are aiming for promotion simple as that imo.

For god's sake give up slagging off Whittingham - you are an absolute pain in the arse. He could score a hat-trick and you would still complain! He is our best ball player by far and when he is gone you will realise ( but will not admit it ) how good he has been for many years for us. Wait till the end of season when the stats for goals and assists come out and most fans ( not you ) will realise how good a player Whitts is. In a nutshell, IN MY OPINION, lol you should go to Specsavers!

This post is bound to rattle you cage - but I will not respond ( and am too old and too much of a dinosaur at my age to find out how to ignore your posts - which I should do! ).

fair enough. but we need better than a player that plays 1 good game in 10

Spot on. He has a good game once in every 10 games and people rave about him like we have got a young diego maradona playing in the cente of the park.

Lacks all the attributes to be a consistent performer for us and 9 games out of 10 hes anonymous, needs replacing next season if we are aiming for promotion simple as that imo.

For god's sake give up slagging off Whittingham - you are an absolute pain in the arse. He could score a hat-trick and you would still complain! He is our best ball player by far and when he is gone you will realise ( but will not admit it ) how good he has been for many years for us. Wait till the end of season when the stats for goals and assists come out and most fans ( not you ) will realise how good a player Whitts is. In a nutshell, IN MY OPINION, lol you should go to Specsavers!

This post is bound to rattle you cage - but I will not respond ( and am too old and too much of a dinosaur at my age to find out how to ignore your posts - which I should do! ).

You aint rattled my cage. Im used to the whitts fans who cant see what he lacks on the pitch.
Yes hes a good passer of the ball like you say but that isnt enough, and you say about stats and assists but thats just corners and the amout of corners we have its enevitible we will score some and if it wasnt whitts taking the corners someone else would be claiming the assists as joe ralls proved not so long ago when he whipped one in for us to score off a corner.

People are entitled to their opinion but mine is and always has been that in this 442 formation we will be a much much better side with 2 dynamic faster high paced midfieldes in the side.

Whittingham is by far our best midfielder , yes he has not had his best season this year but who has ?

Without him making himself available deep in our own half to collect the ball off the defenders , his range of passing , his free free kicks and his corners we would be a much poorer team .

He needs the right formation and combination of players around him to let him shine , this year he hasn't had it and probably a 442 does not suit his style of play . Try putting a player like david silva in the centre of a 442 and he would struggle aswell .

The guy is class and after the service he has given this club he deserves a bit of respect .

Whittingham is by far our best midfielder , yes he has not had his best season this year but who has ?

Without him making himself available deep in our own half to collect the ball off the defenders , his range of passing , his free free kicks and his corners we would be a much poorer team .

He needs the right formation and combination of players around him to let him shine , this year he hasn't had it and probably a 442 does not suit his style of play . Try putting a player like david silva in the centre of a 442 and he would struggle aswell .

The guy is class and after the service he has given this club he deserves a bit of respect .

Agree with everything that has been said here, but do feel is we are going to persist with 442 a few players should leave, Whitts being 1 of them

Whittingham is by far our best midfielder , yes he has not had his best season this year but who has ?

Without him making himself available deep in our own half to collect the ball off the defenders , his range of passing , his free free kicks and his corners we would be a much poorer team .

He needs the right formation and combination of players around him to let him shine , this year he hasn't had it and probably a 442 does not suit his style of play . Try putting a player like david silva in the centre of a 442 and he would struggle aswell .

The guy is class and after the service he has given this club he deserves a bit of respect .

You said it yourself 442 dosent suit him so he needs to be replaced if we are to challenge for promotion next season

fair enough. but we need better than a player that plays 1 good game in 10

Spot on. He has a good game once in every 10 games and people rave about him like we have got a young diego maradona playing in the cente of the park.

Lacks all the attributes to be a consistent performer for us and 9 games out of 10 hes anonymous, needs replacing next season if we are aiming for promotion simple as that imo.

For god's sake give up slagging off Whittingham - you are an absolute pain in the arse. He could score a hat-trick and you would still complain! He is our best ball player by far and when he is gone you will realise ( but will not admit it ) how good he has been for many years for us. Wait till the end of season when the stats for goals and assists come out and most fans ( not you ) will realise how good a player Whitts is. In a nutshell, IN MY OPINION, lol you should go to Specsavers!

This post is bound to rattle you cage - but I will not respond ( and am too old and too much of a dinosaur at my age to find out how to ignore your posts - which I should do! ).

You are so right. Whittingham is a class player - not the complete player otherwise he would not be with us. But class nevertheless.

Whittingham is by far our best midfielder , yes he has not had his best season this year but who has ?

Without him making himself available deep in our own half to collect the ball off the defenders , his range of passing , his free free kicks and his corners we would be a much poorer team .

He needs the right formation and combination of players around him to let him shine , this year he hasn't had it and probably a 442 does not suit his style of play . Try putting a player like david silva in the centre of a 442 and he would struggle aswell .

The guy is class and after the service he has given this club he deserves a bit of respect .

You said it yourself 442 dosent suit him so he needs to be replaced if we are to challenge for promotion next season

No we need to keep him if we are going to challenge for promotion .
We need to structure our team to best suit the players we have got , not just dump them in a formation they are uncomfortable playing and hoping for the best . When we changed to the diamond a few months ago with him at the head his performances were rapidly improving , then we went back to a flat 442 and we lose his playmaking ability for a player uncomfortable in his role defending .
A lot of teams have a player like whitts , the difference is they don't waste the abilities by playing them out of position . We are lucky to have a player with his range of passing ability at this level .

1 good game in 10? Hes had a few good games of late, the lad gets way to much stick. Some of the balls he plays are top class, we have no one else to do that, hes a great passer of the ball and needs players making runs, something we have not had all season.

Whittingham is by far our best midfielder , yes he has not had his best season this year but who has ?

Without him making himself available deep in our own half to collect the ball off the defenders , his range of passing , his free free kicks and his corners we would be a much poorer team .

He needs the right formation and combination of players around him to let him shine , this year he hasn't had it and probably a 442 does not suit his style of play . Try putting a player like david silva in the centre of a 442 and he would struggle aswell .

The guy is class and after the service he has given this club he deserves a bit of respect .

You said it yourself 442 dosent suit him so he needs to be replaced if we are to challenge for promotion next season

No we need to keep him if we are going to challenge for promotion .
We need to structure our team to best suit the players we have got , not just dump them in a formation they are uncomfortable playing and hoping for the best . When we changed to the diamond a few months ago with him at the head his performances were rapidly improving , then we went back to a flat 442 and we lose his playmaking ability for a player uncomfortable in his role defending .
A lot of teams have a player like whitts , the difference is they don't waste the abilities by playing them out of position . We are lucky to have a player with his range of passing ability at this level .

So your saying slade needs to be replaced then? Because he wont change 442

Whittingham is by far our best midfielder , yes he has not had his best season this year but who has ?

Without him making himself available deep in our own half to collect the ball off the defenders , his range of passing , his free free kicks and his corners we would be a much poorer team .

He needs the right formation and combination of players around him to let him shine , this year he hasn't had it and probably a 442 does not suit his style of play . Try putting a player like david silva in the centre of a 442 and he would struggle aswell .

The guy is class and after the service he has given this club he deserves a bit of respect .

You said it yourself 442 dosent suit him so he needs to be replaced if we are to challenge for promotion next season

No we need to keep him if we are going to challenge for promotion .
We need to structure our team to best suit the players we have got , not just dump them in a formation they are uncomfortable playing and hoping for the best . When we changed to the diamond a few months ago with him at the head his performances were rapidly improving , then we went back to a flat 442 and we lose his playmaking ability for a player uncomfortable in his role defending .
A lot of teams have a player like whitts , the difference is they don't waste the abilities by playing them out of position . We are lucky to have a player with his range of passing ability at this level .

So your saying slade needs to be replaced then? Because he wont change 442

No I'm saying we need to play to the strengths of the team . Slade is trying different variants on the systems every week .
People get hung up on all these 442 , 433 , 451 formations . The formation is not important , they way you set up within that system , the way you implement it and the special jobs given each game ( ie man marking ) is what matters . 442 can be played multiple different ways . We seem to play it flat which doesn't suit our players

Whittingham is by far our best midfielder , yes he has not had his best season this year but who has ?

Without him making himself available deep in our own half to collect the ball off the defenders , his range of passing , his free free kicks and his corners we would be a much poorer team .

He needs the right formation and combination of players around him to let him shine , this year he hasn't had it and probably a 442 does not suit his style of play . Try putting a player like david silva in the centre of a 442 and he would struggle aswell .

The guy is class and after the service he has given this club he deserves a bit of respect .

Agree with your post
The Whitts bashers are in a minority on here , he is highly regarded by fellow professionals from all sides and managers that have worked with him ..... footballers opinions that have played the game have far more merit than some of the keyboard warriors on here who have never kicked a ball in their life

fair enough. but we need better than a player that plays 1 good game in 10

Spot on. He has a good game once in every 10 games and people rave about him like we have got a young diego maradona playing in the cente of the park.

Lacks all the attributes to be a consistent performer for us and 9 games out of 10 hes anonymous, needs replacing next season if we are aiming for promotion simple as that imo.

For god's sake give up slagging off Whittingham - you are an absolute pain in the arse. He could score a hat-trick and you would still complain! He is our best ball player by far and when he is gone you will realise ( but will not admit it ) how good he has been for many years for us. Wait till the end of season when the stats for goals and assists come out and most fans ( not you ) will realise how good a player Whitts is. In a nutshell, IN MY OPINION, lol you should go to Specsavers!

This post is bound to rattle you cage - but I will not respond ( and am too old and too much of a dinosaur at my age to find out how to ignore your posts - which I should do! ).

You aint rattled my cage. Im used to the whitts fans who cant see what he lacks on the pitch.
Yes hes a good passer of the ball like you say but that isnt enough, and you say about stats and assists but thats just corners and the amout of corners we have its enevitible we will score some and if it wasnt whitts taking the corners someone else would be claiming the assists as joe ralls proved not so long ago when he whipped one in for us to score off a corner.

People are entitled to their opinion but mine is and always has been that in this 442 formation we will be a much much better side with 2 dynamic faster high paced midfieldes in the side.

You can't seem to see past your nose to be honest mate, your so quick to slate our players because you think they are crap that you can't seem to recognise quality. Unfortunately all our quality players are made to look poor by our tactics

Whittingham is by far our best midfielder , yes he has not had his best season this year but who has ?

Without him making himself available deep in our own half to collect the ball off the defenders , his range of passing , his free free kicks and his corners we would be a much poorer team .

He needs the right formation and combination of players around him to let him shine , this year he hasn't had it and probably a 442 does not suit his style of play . Try putting a player like david silva in the centre of a 442 and he would struggle aswell .

The guy is class and after the service he has given this club he deserves a bit of respect .

Agree with your post
The Whitts bashers are in a minority on here , he is highly regarded by fellow professionals from all sides and managers that have worked with him ..... footballers opinions that have played the game have far more merit than some of the keyboard warriors on here who have never kicked a ball in their life

Spot on

Problem for us is Slade knows one system and doesn't look at the midfield as a unit. We need to get out most technical guy in the game. Malky was clever enough to get the unit to cover Whitts deficiencies, so we played a 5 man midfield, sacrificed a striker and never let Whitts lack of physicality or mobility be exposed.

We then get Ole's fantasy attacking football where a 4 man midfield of Deahli, Noone and Whitts was just too light weight and Gunnar is not exactly mr mobility so we got walked through.

Slades 442 just has the wrong components. QPR play it properly. Barton and Henry aggressive but just technically competent with wide midfielders who make a difference coupled with 2 mobile strikers who want crosses.

Our wingers are pointless and do nothing. Kennedy has promise, but Noone is a 433 forward

We don't have the strikers, wingers or central midfield to play a flat basic 442.....Surely its easier to get rid of Slade.

With our current squad .... Slades back 4 and goalkeeper a midfield of Whitts, Gunnar and Ralls, with Noone & MCAleney as wide forwards and Revell as our man up front

fair enough. but we need better than a player that plays 1 good game in 10

Spot on. He has a good game once in every 10 games and people rave about him like we have got a young diego maradona playing in the cente of the park.

Lacks all the attributes to be a consistent performer for us and 9 games out of 10 hes anonymous, needs replacing next season if we are aiming for promotion simple as that imo.

For god's sake give up slagging off Whittingham - you are an absolute pain in the arse. He could score a hat-trick and you would still complain! He is our best ball player by far and when he is gone you will realise ( but will not admit it ) how good he has been for many years for us. Wait till the end of season when the stats for goals and assists come out and most fans ( not you ) will realise how good a player Whitts is. In a nutshell, IN MY OPINION, lol you should go to Specsavers!

This post is bound to rattle you cage - but I will not respond ( and am too old and too much of a dinosaur at my age to find out how to ignore your posts - which I should do! ).

You aint rattled my cage. Im used to the whitts fans who cant see what he lacks on the pitch.
Yes hes a good passer of the ball like you say but that isnt enough, and you say about stats and assists but thats just corners and the amout of corners we have its enevitible we will score some and if it wasnt whitts taking the corners someone else would be claiming the assists as joe ralls proved not so long ago when he whipped one in for us to score off a corner.

People are entitled to their opinion but mine is and always has been that in this 442 formation we will be a much much better side with 2 dynamic faster high paced midfieldes in the side.

You can't seem to see past your nose to be honest mate, your so quick to slate our players because you think they are crap that you can't seem to recognise quality. Unfortunately all our quality players are made to look poor by our tactics

Its about a differance of opinion. If you read my posts about whitts you will see that i aint saying he aint got certain qualities but he aint the full package for a centre midfielder in a 442 and if you cant see that you cant see past your nose either pal

Whittingham is by far our best midfielder , yes he has not had his best season this year but who has ?

Without him making himself available deep in our own half to collect the ball off the defenders , his range of passing , his free free kicks and his corners we would be a much poorer team .

He needs the right formation and combination of players around him to let him shine , this year he hasn't had it and probably a 442 does not suit his style of play . Try putting a player like david silva in the centre of a 442 and he would struggle aswell .

The guy is class and after the service he has given this club he deserves a bit of respect .

You said it yourself 442 dosent suit him so he needs to be replaced if we are to challenge for promotion next season

No we need to keep him if we are going to challenge for promotion .
We need to structure our team to best suit the players we have got , not just dump them in a formation they are uncomfortable playing and hoping for the best . When we changed to the diamond a few months ago with him at the head his performances were rapidly improving , then we went back to a flat 442 and we lose his playmaking ability for a player uncomfortable in his role defending .
A lot of teams have a player like whitts , the difference is they don't waste the abilities by playing them out of position . We are lucky to have a player with his range of passing ability at this level .

So your saying slade needs to be replaced then? Because he wont change 442

No I'm saying we need to play to the strengths of the team . Slade is trying different variants on the systems every week .
People get hung up on all these 442 , 433 , 451 formations . The formation is not important , they way you set up within that system , the way you implement it and the special jobs given each game ( ie man marking ) is what matters . 442 can be played multiple different ways . We seem to play it flat which doesn't suit our players

So even though your admitting slade dosent play the tactics to fit our team and he picks players playing to their weaknesses not strengths as in whitts for example, your still happy for slade to keep running things in the same manner next season?

fair enough. but we need better than a player that plays 1 good game in 10

Spot on. He has a good game once in every 10 games and people rave about him like we have got a young diego maradona playing in the cente of the park.

Lacks all the attributes to be a consistent performer for us and 9 games out of 10 hes anonymous, needs replacing next season if we are aiming for promotion simple as that imo.

For god's sake give up slagging off Whittingham - you are an absolute pain in the arse. He could score a hat-trick and you would still complain! He is our best ball player by far and when he is gone you will realise ( but will not admit it ) how good he has been for many years for us. Wait till the end of season when the stats for goals and assists come out and most fans ( not you ) will realise how good a player Whitts is. In a nutshell, IN MY OPINION, lol you should go to Specsavers!

This post is bound to rattle you cage - but I will not respond ( and am too old and too much of a dinosaur at my age to find out how to ignore your posts - which I should do! ).

You are so right. Whittingham is a class player - not the complete player otherwise he would not be with us. But class nevertheless.

WAS

fair enough. but we need better than a player that plays 1 good game in 10

Spot on. He has a good game once in every 10 games and people rave about him like we have got a young diego maradona playing in the cente of the park.

Lacks all the attributes to be a consistent performer for us and 9 games out of 10 hes anonymous, needs replacing next season if we are aiming for promotion simple as that imo.

For god's sake give up slagging off Whittingham - you are an absolute pain in the arse. He could score a hat-trick and you would still complain! He is our best ball player by far and when he is gone you will realise ( but will not admit it ) how good he has been for many years for us. Wait till the end of season when the stats for goals and assists come out and most fans ( not you ) will realise how good a player Whitts is. In a nutshell, IN MY OPINION, lol you should go to Specsavers!

This post is bound to rattle you cage - but I will not respond ( and am too old and too much of a dinosaur at my age to find out how to ignore your posts - which I should do! ).

You are so right. Whittingham is a class player - not the complete player otherwise he would not be with us. But class nevertheless.

WAS

I'm impressed with your grammar Krabb, your tenses are perfect. Is your grandad also impressed with your gramma?

fair enough. but we need better than a player that plays 1 good game in 10

Spot on. He has a good game once in every 10 games and people rave about him like we have got a young diego maradona playing in the cente of the park.

Lacks all the attributes to be a consistent performer for us and 9 games out of 10 hes anonymous, needs replacing next season if we are aiming for promotion simple as that imo.

For god's sake give up slagging off Whittingham - you are an absolute pain in the arse. He could score a hat-trick and you would still complain! He is our best ball player by far and when he is gone you will realise ( but will not admit it ) how good he has been for many years for us. Wait till the end of season when the stats for goals and assists come out and most fans ( not you ) will realise how good a player Whitts is. In a nutshell, IN MY OPINION, lol you should go to Specsavers!

This post is bound to rattle you cage - but I will not respond ( and am too old and too much of a dinosaur at my age to find out how to ignore your posts - which I should do! ).

You aint rattled my cage. Im used to the whitts fans who cant see what he lacks on the pitch.
Yes hes a good passer of the ball like you say but that isnt enough, and you say about stats and assists but thats just corners and the amout of corners we have its enevitible we will score some and if it wasnt whitts taking the corners someone else would be claiming the assists as joe ralls proved not so long ago when he whipped one in for us to score off a corner.

People are entitled to their opinion but mine is and always has been that in this 442 formation we will be a much much better side with 2 dynamic faster high paced midfieldes in the side.

You can't seem to see past your nose to be honest mate, your so quick to slate our players because you think they are crap that you can't seem to recognise quality. Unfortunately all our quality players are made to look poor by our tactics

Its about a differance of opinion. If you read my posts about whitts you will see that i aint saying he aint got certain qualities but he aint the full package for a centre midfielder in a 442 and if you cant see that you cant see past your nose either pal

No that's not the case is it, your constantly slating him saying he's shit blah blah blah.... Every player is shit according to you.

fair enough. but we need better than a player that plays 1 good game in 10

Spot on. He has a good game once in every 10 games and people rave about him like we have got a young diego maradona playing in the cente of the park.

Lacks all the attributes to be a consistent performer for us and 9 games out of 10 hes anonymous, needs replacing next season if we are aiming for promotion simple as that imo.

For god's sake give up slagging off Whittingham - you are an absolute pain in the arse. He could score a hat-trick and you would still complain! He is our best ball player by far and when he is gone you will realise ( but will not admit it ) how good he has been for many years for us. Wait till the end of season when the stats for goals and assists come out and most fans ( not you ) will realise how good a player Whitts is. In a nutshell, IN MY OPINION, lol you should go to Specsavers!

This post is bound to rattle you cage - but I will not respond ( and am too old and too much of a dinosaur at my age to find out how to ignore your posts - which I should do! ).

You aint rattled my cage. Im used to the whitts fans who cant see what he lacks on the pitch.
Yes hes a good passer of the ball like you say but that isnt enough, and you say about stats and assists but thats just corners and the amout of corners we have its enevitible we will score some and if it wasnt whitts taking the corners someone else would be claiming the assists as joe ralls proved not so long ago when he whipped one in for us to score off a corner.

People are entitled to their opinion but mine is and always has been that in this 442 formation we will be a much much better side with 2 dynamic faster high paced midfieldes in the side.

You can't seem to see past your nose to be honest mate, your so quick to slate our players because you think they are crap that you can't seem to recognise quality. Unfortunately all our quality players are made to look poor by our tactics

Its about a differance of opinion. If you read my posts about whitts you will see that i aint saying he aint got certain qualities but he aint the full package for a centre midfielder in a 442 and if you cant see that you cant see past your nose either pal

No that's not the case is it, your constantly slating him saying he's shit blah blah blah.... Every player is shit according to you.

Not every player just our midfield mostly. And i wouldnt say shit as you say, id put it more as average underperforming championship players not worthy their place in the team, and not players who can get you promotion.

Sorry i dont share the enthusiasm of some people on here about their performances and the positivity about our chances of promotion going forward with theses players.

Like i said guess its just a differance in opinion...