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Another story goes silently by.....

Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:16 pm

"Muslims kill Muslims", doesn't seem to have a Hollywood enough ring to it for the media or people it seems.

Syrian warplanes dropped at least eight barrel bombs yesterday on a Palestinian refugee camp in Damascus overrun by Islamic State, as the UN begged for access to thousands of civilians trapped in the midst of a brutal three-way battle.

Fighting was also intensifying on the ground as Syrian rebel groups joined forces with the main Palestinian armed faction in an effort to drive Isis out of Yarmouk, which is only a 15-minute drive from President Assad’s palace.

The UN is trying to evacuate 18,000 trapped civilians, including 3,500 children. It said that their situation was “beyond inhumane.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -city.html

That ^ is what barrel bombs do.

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:13 pm

Depressed Blue wrote:"Muslims kill Muslims", doesn't seem to have a Hollywood enough ring to it for the media or people it seems.

Syrian warplanes dropped at least eight barrel bombs yesterday on a Palestinian refugee camp in Damascus overrun by Islamic State, as the UN begged for access to thousands of civilians trapped in the midst of a brutal three-way battle.

Fighting was also intensifying on the ground as Syrian rebel groups joined forces with the main Palestinian armed faction in an effort to drive Isis out of Yarmouk, which is only a 15-minute drive from President Assad’s palace.

The UN is trying to evacuate 18,000 trapped civilians, including 3,500 children. It said that their situation was “beyond inhumane.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -city.html

That ^ is what barrel bombs do.


Do you know why,no ones interested,it's because it seems Palestinian life's mean nothing to some.

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:18 pm

Nothing surprises me when it comes to the human race anymore. Destruction and chaos everywhere you look. I've given up watching the news anymore. Its to depressing

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:24 pm

Got to ask. Why does everyone hate the Palestinians?

Palestinians killed 17 Egyptians last week (mainly soldiers I think).
Jordan hates them
Syrians hate them

Even ISIS want them all dead.

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:28 pm

abergblue wrote:Got to ask. Why does everyone hate the Palestinians?

Palestinians killed 17 Egyptians last week (mainly soldiers I think).
Jordan hates them
Syrians hate them

Even ISIS want them all dead.


Because they gave no power and wealth and so they are shown no respect.

By the way Most Egyptians support them and Lebanon does.
Plus America who support the Jews,portray Palestinians as terrorists.

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:34 pm

No oil in that neck of the woods !!!! therefore no western interest, only humanitarian interest which we (the west) will get too eventually as in previous atrocities, the rest of the World powers should be ashamed of themselves. :x :x :x

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:39 pm

Walesaway1958 wrote:No oil in that neck of the woods !!!! therefore no western interest, only humanitarian interest which we (the west) will get too eventually as in previous atrocities, the rest of the World powers should be ashamed of themselves. :x :x :x


Correct.

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:50 pm

The Western idea of Palestine is so manipulated by the US, it's unreal. Don't get me wrong, both Israel and Palestine have committed awful atrocities in the past but the favouritism towards Israel by the West is disgraceful.

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:53 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
abergblue wrote:Got to ask. Why does everyone hate the Palestinians?

Palestinians killed 17 Egyptians last week (mainly soldiers I think).
Jordan hates them
Syrians hate them

Even ISIS want them all dead.


Because they gave no power and wealth and so they are shown no respect.

By the way Most Egyptians support them and Lebanon does.
Plus America who support the Jews,portray Palestinians as terrorists.


I wonder what we would be doing here in Wales if we were controlled the way the Palestinian people are having our houses and land confiscated, our supplies being switched on and off such as , water,electricity, building materials also food is often regulated, the rest of the World looks despite the resolutions passed at the UN

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:11 pm

https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/campaig ... -at-the-un

It is pretty shocking.

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:19 pm

Zabier wrote:The Western idea of Palestine is so manipulated by the US, it's unreal. Don't get me wrong, both Israel and Palestine have committed awful atrocities in the past but the favouritism towards Israel by the West is disgraceful.


I really think it works both ways. Israel is spoken about as being the modern day nazis by many.

When if one group of people agreed to peace, there would be peace.

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:39 pm

The injustices of the region are well documented. But the gist of the opening post was "Another story goes silently by" The situation in the Yarmouk was however widely reported reported on the news.

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:09 am

In comaparison to the coverage when Israel bomb palestine, is what I was getting at.

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:15 am

Forever Blue wrote:
abergblue wrote:Got to ask. Why does everyone hate the Palestinians?

Palestinians killed 17 Egyptians last week (mainly soldiers I think).
Jordan hates them
Syrians hate them

Even ISIS want them all dead.


Because they gave no power and wealth and so they are shown no respect.

By the way Most Egyptians support them and Lebanon does.
Plus America who support the Jews,portray Palestinians as terrorists.


Not sure that is true Annis. Egypt stops them entering their country too. The problem is Hamas. No one trusts them.

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:23 am

maccydee wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
abergblue wrote:Got to ask. Why does everyone hate the Palestinians?

Palestinians killed 17 Egyptians last week (mainly soldiers I think).
Jordan hates them
Syrians hate them

Even ISIS want them all dead.


Because they gave no power and wealth and so they are shown no respect.

By the way Most Egyptians support them and Lebanon does.
Plus America who support the Jews,portray Palestinians as terrorists.


Not sure that is true Annis. Egypt stops them entering their country too. The problem is Hamas. No one trusts them.


Neil,Israel is the problem.

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:07 am

Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
abergblue wrote:Got to ask. Why does everyone hate the Palestinians?

Palestinians killed 17 Egyptians last week (mainly soldiers I think).
Jordan hates them
Syrians hate them

Even ISIS want them all dead.


Because they gave no power and wealth and so they are shown no respect.

By the way Most Egyptians support them and Lebanon does.
Plus America who support the Jews,portray Palestinians as terrorists.


Not sure that is true Annis. Egypt stops them entering their country too. The problem is Hamas. No one trusts them.


Neil,Israel is the problem.


Annis, you are blind on this. This is nothing to do with Israel. It's Muslims killing Muslims in a Syrian refugee camp. More Muslims being killed than were killed by Israel in the last scuffle.

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:28 am

maccydee wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
abergblue wrote:Got to ask. Why does everyone hate the Palestinians?

Palestinians killed 17 Egyptians last week (mainly soldiers I think).
Jordan hates them
Syrians hate them

Even ISIS want them all dead.


Because they gave no power and wealth and so they are shown no respect.

By the way Most Egyptians support them and Lebanon does.
Plus America who support the Jews,portray Palestinians as terrorists.


Not sure that is true Annis. Egypt stops them entering their country too. The problem is Hamas. No one trusts them.


Neil,Israel is the problem.


Annis, you are blind on this. This is nothing to do with Israel. It's Muslims killing Muslims in a Syrian refugee camp. More Muslims being killed than were killed by Israel in the last scuffle.


The fundamental basis of Islam means that there is literally zero chance of Muslims allowing Israel to live peacefully. That is how some will always practise and take Islam.

Hamas see it is a religious war, which means it will never end, Israel will never live in peace. Same as Iran etc. Israel are the No1 enemy in the middle east and 2 thousand dead Palestinians is terrible but it is literally nothing in comparison with the bloodshed else where in the region carried out by Islamic dictatorships.

Israel is defending its borders. Borders which they keep expanding and shouldnt be allowed to do.

Israel expand territory. SOME (but a large, large amount) Muslims in the region hope every single Jew and Israel is completely exterminated. That is the difference.

I'm bored of my own voice now on this mind.

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:44 am

But there is no definitive answer is there. It is such a mess and we don't understand the countries enough.

It is so hard to understand. But i think this helps a bit: http://www.rferl.org/contentinfographic ... 36354.html < They update it regularly.

I can see Israel being a lot more aggressive in 2015.

ISIS so close to its borders/ other Islamic groups

That: http://www.wnd.com/2015/03/iran-plottin ... rn-border/ with Iran and the Iran nuclear deal.

Syria and Assad propping up the Islamic terrorists, allowing them to move closer and closer to Israel.

Hamas.

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:36 am

Depressed Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
abergblue wrote:Got to ask. Why does everyone hate the Palestinians?

Palestinians killed 17 Egyptians last week (mainly soldiers I think).
Jordan hates them
Syrians hate them

Even ISIS want them all dead.


Because they gave no power and wealth and so they are shown no respect.

By the way Most Egyptians support them and Lebanon does.
Plus America who support the Jews,portray Palestinians as terrorists.


Not sure that is true Annis. Egypt stops them entering their country too. The problem is Hamas. No one trusts them.


Neil,Israel is the problem.


Annis, you are blind on this. This is nothing to do with Israel. It's Muslims killing Muslims in a Syrian refugee camp. More Muslims being killed than were killed by Israel in the last scuffle.


The fundamental basis of Islam means that there is literally zero chance of Muslims allowing Israel to live peacefully. That is how some will always practise and take Islam.

Hamas see it is a religious war, which means it will never end, Israel will never live in peace. Same as Iran etc. Israel are the No1 enemy in the middle east and 2 thousand dead Palestinians is terrible but it is literally nothing in comparison with the bloodshed else where in the region carried out by Islamic dictatorships.

Israel is defending its borders. Borders which they keep expanding and shouldnt be allowed to do.

Israel expand territory. SOME (but a large, large amount) Muslims in the region hope every single Jew and Israel is completely exterminated. That is the difference.

I'm bored of my own voice now on this mind.


Israel are developing land that they won in a defensive war when they were attacked. They are building homes for Arabs too so it isn't a Jew / Arab thing apart from on the Arab side who want rid of the Jews.

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:21 pm

Walesaway1958 wrote:No oil in that neck of the woods !!!! therefore no western interest, only humanitarian interest which we (the west) will get too eventually as in previous atrocities, the rest of the World powers should be ashamed of themselves. :x :x :x



Exactly

Re: Another story goes silently by.....

Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:06 am

The Palestinians have no oil, money, influence, Arab support, world support save a few pressure groups. In the world of " real politik" this does not amount to much.So screw them they have nothing to offer, this is the attitude of most powers. This is what makes me laugh/squirm when I hear these duplicitous charlatan politicians spewing crap.We work/deal/support regimes which are barbaric , look at Saudi Arabia!!!!! Most people seem to forget our Idiot Prime Minister wanted to send British troops into the malestrom of Syria two years ago!! On the Israeli side you a nasty odious right wing quasi fascist Netanyahu in charge.
What a mess this is where world war three will begin.