Farage is right about HIV

Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.

I would rather vote Farage than Ed Liar Milliband

Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.

People are coming from lots of places. My answer to those who speak against his view is try telling those who could live longer on cancer treatment, that the drugs they can't have through lack of funds, has no bearing on the money being spent on people not born in the UK and having HIV treatment. Why is it right for someone who has never paid into the system to be given priority over someone who has paid. The NHS does not have a bottomless pit of money, therefore the UK should stop health tourists. I know that some will say that it reduces the chance of these people passing on the virus, but it also encourages those with it to come here from countries where they can't afford treatment and then gives them the right to asylum and benefits. It's like a lottery win for some of them. Meanwhile, when Joe Bloggs returns from fighting for our freedoms in some far off land, then finds that he may no longer have a roof over his head, through his relationship deteriorating from lack of counselling. He then finds that although he has paid into the system he is bottom of the queue for housing and has to live on the streets.

Bang on there its not a free for all, when is Britain going to stop being a soft touch ,if you went to they're country they would leave you on the side of the road to die ,or check to see if you had medical insurance ,one thing i would like to know when they first have contact with the NHS who gives the go ahead for them to have the treatment for free when they know that they're not from an EU country ,im not heartless but when the country you live in is in the s#it you need to cut back on all this for a while ,then when we are back on our feet then help others from outside the EU .

Bang on there its not a free for all, when is Britain going to stop being a soft touch ,if you went to they're country they would leave you on the side of the road to die ,or check to see if you had medical insurance ,one thing i would like to know when they first have contact with the NHS who gives the go ahead for them to have the treatment for free when they know that they're not from an EU country ,im not heartless but when the country you live in is in the s#it you need to cut back on all this for a while ,then when we are back on our feet then help others from outside the EU .

You ask - 'when is Britain going to stop being a soft touch'?
In my my view it's only going to be if UKIP ever get in.

Bang on the button Chief.

You do realise a lot of them actually catch it over here yeah?
And you seem to believe that there are no Brits living abroad using other countries healthcare either. Don't believe his rhetoric. It's spin and lies for the most part.

You do realise a lot of them actually catch it over here yeah?
And you seem to believe that there are no Brits living abroad using other countries healthcare either. Don't believe his rhetoric. It's spin and lies for the most part.

If we go to Spain on holiday if we went to hospital with no holiday insurance we would have to pay ,if a Spanish person goes to hospital over here they don't how is that fair ?

You do realise a lot of them actually catch it over here yeah?
And you seem to believe that there are no Brits living abroad using other countries healthcare either. Don't believe his rhetoric. It's spin and lies for the most part.

If we go to Spain on holiday if we went to hospital with no holiday insurance we would have to pay ,if a Spanish person goes to hospital over here they don't how is that fair ?

Wez, if you carry your NI card,you now don't have to pay in Spain
But I know what you mean.

Call me Dave and his bunch of chimps made it free treatment for overseas visitors in 2012...

Another fine example of disastrous governance in the last 40 years.

You do realise a lot of them actually catch it over here yeah?
And you seem to believe that there are no Brits living abroad using other countries healthcare either. Don't believe his rhetoric. It's spin and lies for the most part.

If we go to Spain on holiday if we went to hospital with no holiday insurance we would have to pay ,if a Spanish person goes to hospital over here they don't how is that fair ?

Wez, if you carry your NI card,you now don't have to pay in Spain
But I know what you mean.

Are you sure annis ? Cause I watch a lot of craps tv coz of the Mrs a&e abroad ,etc the latest one in benidorm er and they charged someone 6 k for a broken leg cause the holiday insurance wouldn't pay it

You do realise a lot of them actually catch it over here yeah?
And you seem to believe that there are no Brits living abroad using other countries healthcare either. Don't believe his rhetoric. It's spin and lies for the most part.

If we go to Spain on holiday if we went to hospital with no holiday insurance we would have to pay ,if a Spanish person goes to hospital over here they don't how is that fair ?

Nonsense. That's why you have an European Health Insurance Card. Regardless, the claim is nonsense. People come to the UK, a very small amount, for those drugs. Farage used inflated figures probably crafted out of his rear end and then uses sensationalist scaremongering by creating a 'them and us' scenario to spread the crap he's spouting. He is a corporatist whipping boy of the highest degree who not only wants his cake but wants to eat it as well. I'd love UKIP to hold the balance of power after this election just so when all those promises are broken and the reality becomes clear you can all wake up.

You do realise a lot of them actually catch it over here yeah?
And you seem to believe that there are no Brits living abroad using other countries healthcare either. Don't believe his rhetoric. It's spin and lies for the most part.

If we go to Spain on holiday if we went to hospital with no holiday insurance we would have to pay ,if a Spanish person goes to hospital over here they don't how is that fair ?

Wez, if you carry your NI card,you now don't have to pay in Spain
But I know what you mean.

Are you sure annis ? Cause I watch a lot of craps tv coz of the Mrs a&e abroad ,etc the latest one in benidorm er and they charged someone 6 k for a broken leg cause the holiday insurance wouldn't pay it

Yes Wez,my wife and daughter have 3 times gone to the local Doctors and Hospital in Mallorca in the last year and had to pay nothing with their NI cards,I should know as we are over in Mallorca enough times
Fantastic service and Free, a lot of people don't realise it.
You can get the cards on line Free.
Spain claims it back of our Govt .

The Spanish then countercharge the NHS - we have no arrangement with African countries, Russia, Brazil etc, and we spend over £1bn a year treating foreigners with HIV.

In Australia, if you fail the medical, you ain't in.

You do realise a lot of them actually catch it over here yeah?
And you seem to believe that there are no Brits living abroad using other countries healthcare either. Don't believe his rhetoric. It's spin and lies for the most part.

If we go to Spain on holiday if we went to hospital with no holiday insurance we would have to pay ,if a Spanish person goes to hospital over here they don't how is that fair ?

Sorry but that is just not true. It is free.
Both if you are on holiday or if you are an expat over there.
There was a show on the BBC last week about British expats in Spain. I'd watch it if I was you.

we spend over £1bn a year treating foreigners with HIV.

No we don't. Stop lying.

'The report estimates that together, those two groups of "health tourists" cost the NHS between £70m and £300m. That's the real headline figure that we'll be looking at today. And perhaps unsurprisingly, it's considerably closer to £12m than it is £2bn.'

Funny how none of you are moaning about binge drinking though that costs the NHS between £3-5bn every year due to A&E related issues or is that because its predominantly white Brits acting like prats and wasting the time of skilled practitioners in A&E departments?

Farage was on about non EU citizens

When I was ill in America I had to pay and then reclaim from insurance when I got back

we spend over £1bn a year treating foreigners with HIV.

No we don't. Stop lying.

'The report estimates that together, those two groups of "health tourists" cost the NHS between £70m and £300m. That's the real headline figure that we'll be looking at today. And perhaps unsurprisingly, it's considerably closer to £12m than it is £2bn.'

Funny how none of you are moaning about binge drinking though that costs the NHS between £3-5bn every year due to A&E related issues or is that because its predominantly white Brits acting like prats and wasting the time of skilled practitioners in A&E departments?

binge drinkers pay tax on the beer and that is what the arguments are about most british born people pay in to the country from the day they are born ,there are plenty of non British people who come over here and get priority over British born people in regards to housing and the nhs ,why should British tax payers pay for them when the country is on it knees ?

When I was ill in America I had to pay and then reclaim from insurance when I got back

Adam, yes in America you have too.
Not in Spain

You do realise a lot of them actually catch it over here yeah?
And you seem to believe that there are no Brits living abroad using other countries healthcare either. Don't believe his rhetoric. It's spin and lies for the most part.

If we go to Spain on holiday if we went to hospital with no holiday insurance we would have to pay ,if a Spanish person goes to hospital over here they don't how is that fair ?

Sorry but that is just not true. It is free.
Both if you are on holiday or if you are an expat over there.
There was a show on the BBC last week about British expats in Spain. I'd watch it if I was you.

I went to a hospital in the Costa del sol a few years back and had to pay for injections 60 euros I had an eu health card (e1 11 ) it seems to be watching these programs it depends which hospital you are taken too

When I was ill in America I had to pay and then reclaim from insurance when I got back

Adam, yes in America you have too.
Not in Spain

Which was Farages point. He was n about African HIV cases not European which is free with a ID card

Farage was on about non EU citizens

Non EU citizens are let in for asylum purposes or on merit. They're also vetted for things like tuberculosis. Must be lovely for you Adam being born into a fairly privileged predicament whereas poor little Mohammad from Mozambique was born into poverty with AID's, walked 5 miles to school and back per day to study hard and become a doctor only for Little self righteous entitled prats in the land of materialism to say 'no you cant come in sorry cause you've got AIDs'.

Farage was on about non EU citizens

Non EU citizens are let in for asylum purposes or on merit. They're also vetted for things like tuberculosis. Must be lovely for you Adam being born into a fairly privileged predicament whereas poor little Mohammad from Mozambique was born into poverty with AID's, walked 5 miles to school and back per day to study hard and become a doctor only for Little self righteous entitled prats in the land of materialism to say 'no you cant come in sorry cause you've got AIDs'.

I pay into a NATIONAL health service not an International health service

Farage was on about non EU citizens

Non EU citizens are let in for asylum purposes or on merit. They're also vetted for things like tuberculosis. Must be lovely for you Adam being born into a fairly privileged predicament whereas poor little Mohammad from Mozambique was born into poverty with AID's, walked 5 miles to school and back per day to study hard and become a doctor only for Little self righteous entitled prats in the land of materialism to say 'no you cant come in sorry cause you've got AIDs'.

25k a pop the tablets they are on.

Thankfully whoever gets in it seems immigrants from outside the EU will have to pay NI contributions for a time before they can receive treatment on our NHS.

Our NHS is creaking and we should look after ourselves first.

Farage was on about non EU citizens

Non EU citizens are let in for asylum purposes or on merit. They're also vetted for things like tuberculosis. Must be lovely for you Adam being born into a fairly privileged predicament whereas poor little Mohammad from Mozambique was born into poverty with AID's, walked 5 miles to school and back per day to study hard and become a doctor only for Little self righteous entitled prats in the land of materialism to say 'no you cant come in sorry cause you've got AIDs'.

I pay into a NATIONAL health service not an International health service

agree

Farage was on about non EU citizens

Non EU citizens are let in for asylum purposes or on merit. They're also vetted for things like tuberculosis. Must be lovely for you Adam being born into a fairly privileged predicament whereas poor little Mohammad from Mozambique was born into poverty with AID's, walked 5 miles to school and back per day to study hard and become a doctor only for Little self righteous entitled prats in the land of materialism to say 'no you cant come in sorry cause you've got AIDs'.

25k a pop the tablets they are on.

Thankfully whoever gets in it seems immigrants from outside the EU will have to pay NI contributions for a time before they can receive treatment on our NHS.

Our NHS is creaking and we should look after ourselves first.

What winds me up is that there are British born people who can't have cancer fighting drugs coz they cost to much and we are paying for non British people ,why pay ni all your life

Health Care is a human right. That's as far as the debate needs to go.

Health Care is a human right. That's as far as the debate needs to go.

Well they should sort their own country out then to give them health care rather than scounging off ours

Farage was on about non EU citizens

Non EU citizens are let in for asylum purposes or on merit. They're also vetted for things like tuberculosis. Must be lovely for you Adam being born into a fairly privileged predicament whereas poor little Mohammad from Mozambique was born into poverty with AID's, walked 5 miles to school and back per day to study hard and become a doctor only for Little self righteous entitled prats in the land of materialism to say 'no you cant come in sorry cause you've got AIDs'.

25k a pop the tablets they are on.

Thankfully whoever gets in it seems immigrants from outside the EU will have to pay NI contributions for a time before they can receive treatment on our NHS.

Our NHS is creaking and we should look after ourselves first.

What winds me up is that there are British born people who can't have cancer fighting drugs coz they cost to much and we are paying for non British people ,why pay ni all your life

It's not racist or morally wrong to say that.