Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:45 am
Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:48 am
Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:33 am
pembroke allan wrote:good points but makes you wonder why the other 91 clubs dont follow their methods??? just wondered as it appears to be perfect!!
watched burton last night and despite conditions they still tried to play football vinny get him in!!!!
Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:23 am
ThomasC wrote:pembroke allan wrote:good points but makes you wonder why the other 91 clubs dont follow their methods??? just wondered as it appears to be perfect!!
watched burton last night and despite conditions they still tried to play football vinny get him in!!!!
100% with you on that Allan![]()
Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:26 am
pembroke allan wrote:ThomasC wrote:pembroke allan wrote:good points but makes you wonder why the other 91 clubs dont follow their methods??? just wondered as it appears to be perfect!!
watched burton last night and despite conditions they still tried to play football vinny get him in!!!!
100% with you on that Allan![]()
Will be good aqusation for us but wont happen until it looks as if we wont make playoffs next season at least! As for swansea point cant argue about their set up but why dont other clubs follow their model?
Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:55 am
Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:08 am
Zabier wrote:I think as well that Swansea have been very lucky. Not taking anything away from what they've achieved. Even as our rival club I can fully appreciate that what they have done is incredible. However, it has been seen time and time again that teams have tried to follow that model and they've just not had the luck with players and staff.
I would love it if the Swansea model was a proven formula because I think the initial essence is fine and respectable but I simply think it's not followed more because it's not successful in the vast majority of circumstances. Swansea will run out of luck with their appointments and signings soon enough.
Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:15 pm
SCFC wrote:Zabier wrote:I think as well that Swansea have been very lucky. Not taking anything away from what they've achieved. Even as our rival club I can fully appreciate that what they have done is incredible. However, it has been seen time and time again that teams have tried to follow that model and they've just not had the luck with players and staff.
I would love it if the Swansea model was a proven formula because I think the initial essence is fine and respectable but I simply think it's not followed more because it's not successful in the vast majority of circumstances. Swansea will run out of luck with their appointments and signings soon enough.
Because successful managerial appointments and signings are nothing more than luck? Huw Jenkins knows the game inside out, even though Monks is unlikely to leave any time soon he'll have a number of managers lined up who'll fit in to our system fine and play a similar style of possession football with a few tweaks. In terms of signings, the good signings aren't going to dry up. We've had an excellent January signing Jack Cork and Kyle Naughton who've both improved our first team and we've got plenty of money for the summer given how much we got in for Wilfried Bony.
I don't think luck has anything to do with it, I think clubs haven't copied it because it's a very complicated model. It's not easily available for a lot of teams. It involves being sustainable for one, which most clubs are some way of achieving. We also owe a lot of our success to Huw Jenkins, the top guy in his field given his record and other clubs don't have that. Most clubs wouldn't have the patience for it either, if a possession based brand of football isn't initially successful (as was that case with Rodgers at Reading) the fans want a change.
Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:02 pm
SCFC wrote:Zabier wrote:I think as well that Swansea have been very lucky. Not taking anything away from what they've achieved. Even as our rival club I can fully appreciate that what they have done is incredible. However, it has been seen time and time again that teams have tried to follow that model and they've just not had the luck with players and staff.
I would love it if the Swansea model was a proven formula because I think the initial essence is fine and respectable but I simply think it's not followed more because it's not successful in the vast majority of circumstances. Swansea will run out of luck with their appointments and signings soon enough.
Because successful managerial appointments and signings are nothing more than luck? Huw Jenkins knows the game inside out, even though Monks is unlikely to leave any time soon he'll have a number of managers lined up who'll fit in to our system fine and play a similar style of possession football with a few tweaks. In terms of signings, the good signings aren't going to dry up. We've had an excellent January signing Jack Cork and Kyle Naughton who've both improved our first team and we've got plenty of money for the summer given how much we got in for Wilfried Bony.
I don't think luck has anything to do with it, I think clubs haven't copied it because it's a very complicated model. It's not easily available for a lot of teams. It involves being sustainable for one, which most clubs are some way of achieving. We also owe a lot of our success to Huw Jenkins, the top guy in his field given his record and other clubs don't have that. Most clubs wouldn't have the patience for it either, if a possession based brand of football isn't initially successful (as was that case with Rodgers at Reading) the fans want a change.
Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:51 pm
pembroke allan wrote:ThomasC wrote:pembroke allan wrote:good points but makes you wonder why the other 91 clubs dont follow their methods??? just wondered as it appears to be perfect!!
watched burton last night and despite conditions they still tried to play football vinny get him in!!!!
100% with you on that Allan![]()
Will be good aqusation for us but wont happen until it looks as if we wont make playoffs next season at least! As for swansea point cant argue about their set up but why dont other clubs follow their model?
Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:31 pm
smakerzthebluebird wrote:pembroke allan wrote:ThomasC wrote:pembroke allan wrote:good points but makes you wonder why the other 91 clubs dont follow their methods??? just wondered as it appears to be perfect!!
watched burton last night and despite conditions they still tried to play football vinny get him in!!!!
100% with you on that Allan![]()
Will be good aqusation for us but wont happen until it looks as if we wont make playoffs next season at least! As for swansea point cant argue about their set up but why dont other clubs follow their model?
Southampton are similar everyone expected them to fail this season after the player exodus and manager exodus and look how they are doing clubs should hire managers on the clubs philopshy and not the managers philosophy that's how you run a sustainable club
Changing things on a whim just isn't realistic for long term success
Southampton could probably lose koeeman tomorow and have a new manager that represents what they want within a week and not lose much momentum either
There youth setup is styled to the first team right from 7's to u21's so that the players play how they want them to
It's a really good setup swansea being similar but not on southamptons scale of seriousness in all areas of the club
Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:03 pm
SCFC wrote:Zabier wrote:I think as well that Swansea have been very lucky. Not taking anything away from what they've achieved. Even as our rival club I can fully appreciate that what they have done is incredible. However, it has been seen time and time again that teams have tried to follow that model and they've just not had the luck with players and staff.
I would love it if the Swansea model was a proven formula because I think the initial essence is fine and respectable but I simply think it's not followed more because it's not successful in the vast majority of circumstances. Swansea will run out of luck with their appointments and signings soon enough.
Because successful managerial appointments and signings are nothing more than luck? Huw Jenkins knows the game inside out, even though Monks is unlikely to leave any time soon he'll have a number of managers lined up who'll fit in to our system fine and play a similar style of possession football with a few tweaks. In terms of signings, the good signings aren't going to dry up. We've had an excellent January signing Jack Cork and Kyle Naughton who've both improved our first team and we've got plenty of money for the summer given how much we got in for Wilfried Bony.
I don't think luck has anything to do with it, I think clubs haven't copied it because it's a very complicated model. It's not easily available for a lot of teams. It involves being sustainable for one, which most clubs are some way of achieving. We also owe a lot of our success to Huw Jenkins, the top guy in his field given his record and other clubs don't have that. Most clubs wouldn't have the patience for it either, if a possession based brand of football isn't initially successful (as was that case with Rodgers at Reading) the fans want a change.