Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:40 am
Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:27 am
Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:30 am
Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:39 am
Bakedalasker wrote:Depends what people want out of Cardiff City fc.
I would like to see a sustainable club with a board that wants the club to be part of the community. We are no where near that. To get there I believe a couple of things have to happen. Tan has to go and the board has to go. What comes in to replace them well I know what I would like to see but am I positive I will see that. No not particularly.
Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:44 am
Nuclearblue wrote:For the last few years our biggest gripe apart from the re brand was the level of debt. What the fans wanted was the return of our identity and for the debt to be sorted. But we have returned to Blue with the badge being sorted for next season and the debt is being reduced. So why are we so unhappy ? we are getting what we want aren't we ?
But are we ? Well my belief no. The only reason we are getting what we want is because Vincent Tan wants out. First return us to Blue makes him look like he is listening to the fans but he isn't. Return our badge with the bluebird as the prominent feature just like the fans want. He is listening to the fans again. But he isn't. What does Vinny want ? He needs to get back as much money as he can so reducing the wage bill is a must, so selling or just off loading these players needs to be done.
But no manager would want this sort of thing on there CV so Tan needed to hire a manager who was going nowhere and is more than happy to pick up a wage. Enter Russell Slade and he is doing exactly what the boss wants and also to keep us up which he has, and I believe that is more down to Trollepe than Slade.
But Tan needs to stay at our club to pick up his Parachute payments to limit what he has lost. Most fans can see we are heading no where and next season it is going to be a rough ride. The Club can send there emails saying we are trying to get back to the promised land, but in truth no one believes that. Now most fans of other clubs can look forward to hope they can progress but most City fans feel that is definitely not the case with Cardiff City. Some want to be positive and that is great others can clearly see what is coming ahead with Vincent in charge. He is on his way out over the next couple of years but where will we be by then ?
And that's the frightening part but as with many on here we are here for the journey no matter where it takes us. Vicent Tan isn't Cardiff City and neither is his yes men including his bitch Slade. We the supporters who stay and keep supporting this Club are including Trooblue even though I don't always agree with I do know he is a true fan.
Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:47 am
wez1927 wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Depends what people want out of Cardiff City fc.
I would like to see a sustainable club with a board that wants the club to be part of the community. We are no where near that. To get there I believe a couple of things have to happen. Tan has to go and the board has to go. What comes in to replace them well I know what I would like to see but am I positive I will see that. No not particularly.
Are you really ? The club is part of the community more than ever ,family club of the year loads of time ,the house of sport project and now the cut backs to keep us more sustainable ,what more can the club do ?
Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:49 am
2blue2handle wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:For the last few years our biggest gripe apart from the re brand was the level of debt. What the fans wanted was the return of our identity and for the debt to be sorted. But we have returned to Blue with the badge being sorted for next season and the debt is being reduced. So why are we so unhappy ? we are getting what we want aren't we ?
But are we ? Well my belief no. The only reason we are getting what we want is because Vincent Tan wants out. First return us to Blue makes him look like he is listening to the fans but he isn't. Return our badge with the bluebird as the prominent feature just like the fans want. He is listening to the fans again. But he isn't. What does Vinny want ? He needs to get back as much money as he can so reducing the wage bill is a must, so selling or just off loading these players needs to be done.
But no manager would want this sort of thing on there CV so Tan needed to hire a manager who was going nowhere and is more than happy to pick up a wage. Enter Russell Slade and he is doing exactly what the boss wants and also to keep us up which he has, and I believe that is more down to Trollepe than Slade.
But Tan needs to stay at our club to pick up his Parachute payments to limit what he has lost. Most fans can see we are heading no where and next season it is going to be a rough ride. The Club can send there emails saying we are trying to get back to the promised land, but in truth no one believes that. Now most fans of other clubs can look forward to hope they can progress but most City fans feel that is definitely not the case with Cardiff City. Some want to be positive and that is great others can clearly see what is coming ahead with Vincent in charge. He is on his way out over the next couple of years but where will we be by then ?
And that's the frightening part but as with many on here we are here for the journey no matter where it takes us. Vicent Tan isn't Cardiff City and neither is his yes men including his bitch Slade. We the supporters who stay and keep supporting this Club are including Trooblue even though I don't always agree with I do know he is a true fan.
The people who want Tan our should be over the moon about the cut back, it's the clearest indication that we want to become self sufficient.
As for the blue and the badge we have got what we want, the reasoning doesn't matter in my opinion, people looking for excuses.
I always get the feeling the club is being set up for a new owner and for some reason it wouldn't surprise me to see dalman as owner in the near future.
I only see positives at the moment other than slade.
Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:12 am
Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:19 am
Bakedalasker wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:For the last few years our biggest gripe apart from the re brand was the level of debt. What the fans wanted was the return of our identity and for the debt to be sorted. But we have returned to Blue with the badge being sorted for next season and the debt is being reduced. So why are we so unhappy ? we are getting what we want aren't we ?
But are we ? Well my belief no. The only reason we are getting what we want is because Vincent Tan wants out. First return us to Blue makes him look like he is listening to the fans but he isn't. Return our badge with the bluebird as the prominent feature just like the fans want. He is listening to the fans again. But he isn't. What does Vinny want ? He needs to get back as much money as he can so reducing the wage bill is a must, so selling or just off loading these players needs to be done.
But no manager would want this sort of thing on there CV so Tan needed to hire a manager who was going nowhere and is more than happy to pick up a wage. Enter Russell Slade and he is doing exactly what the boss wants and also to keep us up which he has, and I believe that is more down to Trollepe than Slade.
But Tan needs to stay at our club to pick up his Parachute payments to limit what he has lost. Most fans can see we are heading no where and next season it is going to be a rough ride. The Club can send there emails saying we are trying to get back to the promised land, but in truth no one believes that. Now most fans of other clubs can look forward to hope they can progress but most City fans feel that is definitely not the case with Cardiff City. Some want to be positive and that is great others can clearly see what is coming ahead with Vincent in charge. He is on his way out over the next couple of years but where will we be by then ?
And that's the frightening part but as with many on here we are here for the journey no matter where it takes us. Vicent Tan isn't Cardiff City and neither is his yes men including his bitch Slade. We the supporters who stay and keep supporting this Club are including Trooblue even though I don't always agree with I do know he is a true fan.
The people who want Tan our should be over the moon about the cut back, it's the clearest indication that we want to become self sufficient.
As for the blue and the badge we have got what we want, the reasoning doesn't matter in my opinion, people looking for excuses.
I always get the feeling the club is being set up for a new owner and for some reason it wouldn't surprise me to see dalman as owner in the near future.
I only see positives at the moment other than slade.
You think Tan is cutting back to make us self sufficient. I don't think so.
Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:24 am
maccydee wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:For the last few years our biggest gripe apart from the re brand was the level of debt. What the fans wanted was the return of our identity and for the debt to be sorted. But we have returned to Blue with the badge being sorted for next season and the debt is being reduced. So why are we so unhappy ? we are getting what we want aren't we ?
But are we ? Well my belief no. The only reason we are getting what we want is because Vincent Tan wants out. First return us to Blue makes him look like he is listening to the fans but he isn't. Return our badge with the bluebird as the prominent feature just like the fans want. He is listening to the fans again. But he isn't. What does Vinny want ? He needs to get back as much money as he can so reducing the wage bill is a must, so selling or just off loading these players needs to be done.
But no manager would want this sort of thing on there CV so Tan needed to hire a manager who was going nowhere and is more than happy to pick up a wage. Enter Russell Slade and he is doing exactly what the boss wants and also to keep us up which he has, and I believe that is more down to Trollepe than Slade.
But Tan needs to stay at our club to pick up his Parachute payments to limit what he has lost. Most fans can see we are heading no where and next season it is going to be a rough ride. The Club can send there emails saying we are trying to get back to the promised land, but in truth no one believes that. Now most fans of other clubs can look forward to hope they can progress but most City fans feel that is definitely not the case with Cardiff City. Some want to be positive and that is great others can clearly see what is coming ahead with Vincent in charge. He is on his way out over the next couple of years but where will we be by then ?
And that's the frightening part but as with many on here we are here for the journey no matter where it takes us. Vicent Tan isn't Cardiff City and neither is his yes men including his bitch Slade. We the supporters who stay and keep supporting this Club are including Trooblue even though I don't always agree with I do know he is a true fan.
The people who want Tan our should be over the moon about the cut back, it's the clearest indication that we want to become self sufficient.
As for the blue and the badge we have got what we want, the reasoning doesn't matter in my opinion, people looking for excuses.
I always get the feeling the club is being set up for a new owner and for some reason it wouldn't surprise me to see dalman as owner in the near future.
I only see positives at the moment other than slade.
You think Tan is cutting back to make us self sufficient. I don't think so.
Then why Ian?
Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:31 am
Bakedalasker wrote:maccydee wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:For the last few years our biggest gripe apart from the re brand was the level of debt. What the fans wanted was the return of our identity and for the debt to be sorted. But we have returned to Blue with the badge being sorted for next season and the debt is being reduced. So why are we so unhappy ? we are getting what we want aren't we ?
But are we ? Well my belief no. The only reason we are getting what we want is because Vincent Tan wants out. First return us to Blue makes him look like he is listening to the fans but he isn't. Return our badge with the bluebird as the prominent feature just like the fans want. He is listening to the fans again. But he isn't. What does Vinny want ? He needs to get back as much money as he can so reducing the wage bill is a must, so selling or just off loading these players needs to be done.
But no manager would want this sort of thing on there CV so Tan needed to hire a manager who was going nowhere and is more than happy to pick up a wage. Enter Russell Slade and he is doing exactly what the boss wants and also to keep us up which he has, and I believe that is more down to Trollepe than Slade.
But Tan needs to stay at our club to pick up his Parachute payments to limit what he has lost. Most fans can see we are heading no where and next season it is going to be a rough ride. The Club can send there emails saying we are trying to get back to the promised land, but in truth no one believes that. Now most fans of other clubs can look forward to hope they can progress but most City fans feel that is definitely not the case with Cardiff City. Some want to be positive and that is great others can clearly see what is coming ahead with Vincent in charge. He is on his way out over the next couple of years but where will we be by then ?
And that's the frightening part but as with many on here we are here for the journey no matter where it takes us. Vicent Tan isn't Cardiff City and neither is his yes men including his bitch Slade. We the supporters who stay and keep supporting this Club are including Trooblue even though I don't always agree with I do know he is a true fan.
The people who want Tan our should be over the moon about the cut back, it's the clearest indication that we want to become self sufficient.
As for the blue and the badge we have got what we want, the reasoning doesn't matter in my opinion, people looking for excuses.
I always get the feeling the club is being set up for a new owner and for some reason it wouldn't surprise me to see dalman as owner in the near future.
I only see positives at the moment other than slade.
You think Tan is cutting back to make us self sufficient. I don't think so.
Then why Ian?
Do I need to answer that Neil. He is cutting back to recoup Neil.
Its was always on the card this once it all started to go wrong.
Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:41 am
Bakedalasker wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:For the last few years our biggest gripe apart from the re brand was the level of debt. What the fans wanted was the return of our identity and for the debt to be sorted. But we have returned to Blue with the badge being sorted for next season and the debt is being reduced. So why are we so unhappy ? we are getting what we want aren't we ?
But are we ? Well my belief no. The only reason we are getting what we want is because Vincent Tan wants out. First return us to Blue makes him look like he is listening to the fans but he isn't. Return our badge with the bluebird as the prominent feature just like the fans want. He is listening to the fans again. But he isn't. What does Vinny want ? He needs to get back as much money as he can so reducing the wage bill is a must, so selling or just off loading these players needs to be done.
But no manager would want this sort of thing on there CV so Tan needed to hire a manager who was going nowhere and is more than happy to pick up a wage. Enter Russell Slade and he is doing exactly what the boss wants and also to keep us up which he has, and I believe that is more down to Trollepe than Slade.
But Tan needs to stay at our club to pick up his Parachute payments to limit what he has lost. Most fans can see we are heading no where and next season it is going to be a rough ride. The Club can send there emails saying we are trying to get back to the promised land, but in truth no one believes that. Now most fans of other clubs can look forward to hope they can progress but most City fans feel that is definitely not the case with Cardiff City. Some want to be positive and that is great others can clearly see what is coming ahead with Vincent in charge. He is on his way out over the next couple of years but where will we be by then ?
And that's the frightening part but as with many on here we are here for the journey no matter where it takes us. Vicent Tan isn't Cardiff City and neither is his yes men including his bitch Slade. We the supporters who stay and keep supporting this Club are including Trooblue even though I don't always agree with I do know he is a true fan.
The people who want Tan our should be over the moon about the cut back, it's the clearest indication that we want to become self sufficient.
As for the blue and the badge we have got what we want, the reasoning doesn't matter in my opinion, people looking for excuses.
I always get the feeling the club is being set up for a new owner and for some reason it wouldn't surprise me to see dalman as owner in the near future.
I only see positives at the moment other than slade.
You think Tan is cutting back to make us self sufficient. I don't think so.
Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:44 am
same people who were Moaning about the rebrand and piping up again ,don't think they will ever be happy2blue2handle wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:For the last few years our biggest gripe apart from the re brand was the level of debt. What the fans wanted was the return of our identity and for the debt to be sorted. But we have returned to Blue with the badge being sorted for next season and the debt is being reduced. So why are we so unhappy ? we are getting what we want aren't we ?
But are we ? Well my belief no. The only reason we are getting what we want is because Vincent Tan wants out. First return us to Blue makes him look like he is listening to the fans but he isn't. Return our badge with the bluebird as the prominent feature just like the fans want. He is listening to the fans again. But he isn't. What does Vinny want ? He needs to get back as much money as he can so reducing the wage bill is a must, so selling or just off loading these players needs to be done.
But no manager would want this sort of thing on there CV so Tan needed to hire a manager who was going nowhere and is more than happy to pick up a wage. Enter Russell Slade and he is doing exactly what the boss wants and also to keep us up which he has, and I believe that is more down to Trollepe than Slade.
But Tan needs to stay at our club to pick up his Parachute payments to limit what he has lost. Most fans can see we are heading no where and next season it is going to be a rough ride. The Club can send there emails saying we are trying to get back to the promised land, but in truth no one believes that. Now most fans of other clubs can look forward to hope they can progress but most City fans feel that is definitely not the case with Cardiff City. Some want to be positive and that is great others can clearly see what is coming ahead with Vincent in charge. He is on his way out over the next couple of years but where will we be by then ?
And that's the frightening part but as with many on here we are here for the journey no matter where it takes us. Vicent Tan isn't Cardiff City and neither is his yes men including his bitch Slade. We the supporters who stay and keep supporting this Club are including Trooblue even though I don't always agree with I do know he is a true fan.
The people who want Tan our should be over the moon about the cut back, it's the clearest indication that we want to become self sufficient.
As for the blue and the badge we have got what we want, the reasoning doesn't matter in my opinion, people looking for excuses.
I always get the feeling the club is being set up for a new owner and for some reason it wouldn't surprise me to see dalman as owner in the near future.
I only see positives at the moment other than slade.
You think Tan is cutting back to make us self sufficient. I don't think so.
No doubt reducing his debt as well but that's fine by me, he borrowed the money in return for the rebrand, it's been reversed he should take it back.
The cut back should mean we don't have to rely on him every month.
Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:24 am
Bakedalasker wrote:maccydee wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:For the last few years our biggest gripe apart from the re brand was the level of debt. What the fans wanted was the return of our identity and for the debt to be sorted. But we have returned to Blue with the badge being sorted for next season and the debt is being reduced. So why are we so unhappy ? we are getting what we want aren't we ?
But are we ? Well my belief no. The only reason we are getting what we want is because Vincent Tan wants out. First return us to Blue makes him look like he is listening to the fans but he isn't. Return our badge with the bluebird as the prominent feature just like the fans want. He is listening to the fans again. But he isn't. What does Vinny want ? He needs to get back as much money as he can so reducing the wage bill is a must, so selling or just off loading these players needs to be done.
But no manager would want this sort of thing on there CV so Tan needed to hire a manager who was going nowhere and is more than happy to pick up a wage. Enter Russell Slade and he is doing exactly what the boss wants and also to keep us up which he has, and I believe that is more down to Trollepe than Slade.
But Tan needs to stay at our club to pick up his Parachute payments to limit what he has lost. Most fans can see we are heading no where and next season it is going to be a rough ride. The Club can send there emails saying we are trying to get back to the promised land, but in truth no one believes that. Now most fans of other clubs can look forward to hope they can progress but most City fans feel that is definitely not the case with Cardiff City. Some want to be positive and that is great others can clearly see what is coming ahead with Vincent in charge. He is on his way out over the next couple of years but where will we be by then ?
And that's the frightening part but as with many on here we are here for the journey no matter where it takes us. Vicent Tan isn't Cardiff City and neither is his yes men including his bitch Slade. We the supporters who stay and keep supporting this Club are including Trooblue even though I don't always agree with I do know he is a true fan.
The people who want Tan our should be over the moon about the cut back, it's the clearest indication that we want to become self sufficient.
As for the blue and the badge we have got what we want, the reasoning doesn't matter in my opinion, people looking for excuses.
I always get the feeling the club is being set up for a new owner and for some reason it wouldn't surprise me to see dalman as owner in the near future.
I only see positives at the moment other than slade.
You think Tan is cutting back to make us self sufficient. I don't think so.
Then why Ian?
Do I need to answer that Neil. He is cutting back to recoup Neil.
Its was always on the card this once it all started to go wrong.
Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:27 am
wez1927 wrote:same people who were Moaning about the rebrand and piping up again ,don't think they will ever be happy2blue2handle wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:For the last few years our biggest gripe apart from the re brand was the level of debt. What the fans wanted was the return of our identity and for the debt to be sorted. But we have returned to Blue with the badge being sorted for next season and the debt is being reduced. So why are we so unhappy ? we are getting what we want aren't we ?
But are we ? Well my belief no. The only reason we are getting what we want is because Vincent Tan wants out. First return us to Blue makes him look like he is listening to the fans but he isn't. Return our badge with the bluebird as the prominent feature just like the fans want. He is listening to the fans again. But he isn't. What does Vinny want ? He needs to get back as much money as he can so reducing the wage bill is a must, so selling or just off loading these players needs to be done.
But no manager would want this sort of thing on there CV so Tan needed to hire a manager who was going nowhere and is more than happy to pick up a wage. Enter Russell Slade and he is doing exactly what the boss wants and also to keep us up which he has, and I believe that is more down to Trollepe than Slade.
But Tan needs to stay at our club to pick up his Parachute payments to limit what he has lost. Most fans can see we are heading no where and next season it is going to be a rough ride. The Club can send there emails saying we are trying to get back to the promised land, but in truth no one believes that. Now most fans of other clubs can look forward to hope they can progress but most City fans feel that is definitely not the case with Cardiff City. Some want to be positive and that is great others can clearly see what is coming ahead with Vincent in charge. He is on his way out over the next couple of years but where will we be by then ?
And that's the frightening part but as with many on here we are here for the journey no matter where it takes us. Vicent Tan isn't Cardiff City and neither is his yes men including his bitch Slade. We the supporters who stay and keep supporting this Club are including Trooblue even though I don't always agree with I do know he is a true fan.
The people who want Tan our should be over the moon about the cut back, it's the clearest indication that we want to become self sufficient.
As for the blue and the badge we have got what we want, the reasoning doesn't matter in my opinion, people looking for excuses.
I always get the feeling the club is being set up for a new owner and for some reason it wouldn't surprise me to see dalman as owner in the near future.
I only see positives at the moment other than slade.
You think Tan is cutting back to make us self sufficient. I don't think so.
No doubt reducing his debt as well but that's fine by me, he borrowed the money in return for the rebrand, it's been reversed he should take it back.
The cut back should mean we don't have to rely on him every month.
Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:14 pm
wez1927 wrote:same people who were Moaning about the rebrand and piping up again ,don't think they will ever be happy2blue2handle wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:For the last few years our biggest gripe apart from the re brand was the level of debt. What the fans wanted was the return of our identity and for the debt to be sorted. But we have returned to Blue with the badge being sorted for next season and the debt is being reduced. So why are we so unhappy ? we are getting what we want aren't we ?
But are we ? Well my belief no. The only reason we are getting what we want is because Vincent Tan wants out. First return us to Blue makes him look like he is listening to the fans but he isn't. Return our badge with the bluebird as the prominent feature just like the fans want. He is listening to the fans again. But he isn't. What does Vinny want ? He needs to get back as much money as he can so reducing the wage bill is a must, so selling or just off loading these players needs to be done.
But no manager would want this sort of thing on there CV so Tan needed to hire a manager who was going nowhere and is more than happy to pick up a wage. Enter Russell Slade and he is doing exactly what the boss wants and also to keep us up which he has, and I believe that is more down to Trollepe than Slade.
But Tan needs to stay at our club to pick up his Parachute payments to limit what he has lost. Most fans can see we are heading no where and next season it is going to be a rough ride. The Club can send there emails saying we are trying to get back to the promised land, but in truth no one believes that. Now most fans of other clubs can look forward to hope they can progress but most City fans feel that is definitely not the case with Cardiff City. Some want to be positive and that is great others can clearly see what is coming ahead with Vincent in charge. He is on his way out over the next couple of years but where will we be by then ?
And that's the frightening part but as with many on here we are here for the journey no matter where it takes us. Vicent Tan isn't Cardiff City and neither is his yes men including his bitch Slade. We the supporters who stay and keep supporting this Club are including Trooblue even though I don't always agree with I do know he is a true fan.
The people who want Tan our should be over the moon about the cut back, it's the clearest indication that we want to become self sufficient.
As for the blue and the badge we have got what we want, the reasoning doesn't matter in my opinion, people looking for excuses.
I always get the feeling the club is being set up for a new owner and for some reason it wouldn't surprise me to see dalman as owner in the near future.
I only see positives at the moment other than slade.
You think Tan is cutting back to make us self sufficient. I don't think so.
No doubt reducing his debt as well but that's fine by me, he borrowed the money in return for the rebrand, it's been reversed he should take it back.
The cut back should mean we don't have to rely on him every month.
Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:24 pm