" Simple question..? "

Who don't you want in our squad for next year (that are here now)?

Mine would be

Whittingham- not effective as he used to
Jones- can't be watching him stroll around most games
Macheda - same as jones ! Drives me mad
Noone- isn't doing it for me anymore
Le fondre- clearly doesn't want to be here now he's off on loan not that a blame him but can't imagine him wanting to come back next sure
Gabbidon- just costing us money and not doing nothing

Im not really bothered who stays at the moment, anyone on over 20k first of all.

I'd agree with that apart from Whitts.
I'd keep Noone if we didn't get the fee we wanted as he's bound to come good again? Surely! He'd also a good squad player.

Top of my list would be Slade though, if he falls into that category!

I'd agree with that apart from Whitts.
I'd keep Noone if we didn't get the fee we wanted as he's bound to come good again? Surely! He'd also a good squad player.

Top of my list would be Slade though, if he falls into that category!

Nah he'd come in the management category
He'd be my top 1
But by the looks of it he ain't going no where

I'd agree with that apart from Whitts.
I'd keep Noone if we didn't get the fee we wanted as he's bound to come good again? Surely! He'd also a good squad player.

Top of my list would be Slade though, if he falls into that category!

Nah he'd come in the management category
He'd be my top 1
But by the looks of it he ain't going no where

Haha ... Think your right mate!

Playing staff id also add Marshall, Manga, Turner, Gunnar, Morrison, Pilkington to the list, big earners and other than Manga I think we will cope without them.

Playing staff id also add Marshall, Manga, Turner, Gunnar, Morrison, Pilkington to the list, big earners and other than Manga I think we will cope without them.

I think most of them will go too..
It will be a busy summer window I should imagine ..
I want players coming in fresh willing to come to Cardiff for low salaries wanting to play for them
Not because of the nice weekly wage they will get
I'd love to keep manga and Marshall as they would be a big key element maybe to get us back to the prem .
But sadly I think they will be gone

Whitts isn't effective. Yet who got the assist last night

Whitts isn't effective. Yet who got the assist last night

He takes all the corners mun
If someone else took the corners they'd get the assists
He's not effective in the position on the pitch is my point !
Yeah great takes the corners etc but I want more than that from him !

Yes, if it wasn't for Peter Whittingham, we'd have won the Champions' League by now. He's the cause of all our problems.

Whitts isn't effective. Yet who got the assist last night

He takes all the corners mun
If someone else took the corners they'd get the assists
He's not effective in the position on the pitch is my point !
Yeah great takes the corners etc but I want more than that from him !

We have no one else in his league with assists and he's being played as a deep midfielder he's doing fine for not his real position.

Put him, gunnar and a really good number ten in he'd be fine. You're just like all the other cardiff fans who, the moment cardiff aren't doing great, pick out who doesn't run around like a headless chicken and give them abuse. Same abuse Bothroyd and Hudson used to get.

Whitts isn't effective. Yet who got the assist last night

He takes all the corners mun
If someone else took the corners they'd get the assists
He's not effective in the position on the pitch is my point !
Yeah great takes the corners etc but I want more than that from him !

We have no one else in his league with assists and he's being played as a deep midfielder he's doing fine for not his real position.

Put him, gunnar and a really good number ten in he'd be fine. You're just like all the other cardiff fans who, the moment cardiff aren't doing great, pick out who doesn't run around like a headless chicken and give them abuse. Same abuse Bothroyd and Hudson used to get.

How can you say that when no one gets the chance to take the corners and free kicks ?
Maybe they would have more assists then?
Well that's not going to happen as slades like the 442
Meaning them 2 together doesn't work creating the problems we hAve so I'd say they ain't doing great .
Shame you can't see that too
And that's not it at all so get it right mate.
Whittingham yeah has his faults but I've clearly just stated a few other players not pulling their weight hence why I want them gone !
And being a centre midfielder he should be running about but no he just strolls around . But whatever you know it all

Who don't you want in our squad for next year (that are here now)?

Mine would be

Whittingham- not effective as he used to
Jones- can't be watching him stroll around most games
Macheda - same as jones ! Drives me mad
Noone- isn't doing it for me anymore
Le fondre- clearly doesn't want to be here now he's off on loan not that a blame him but can't imagine him wanting to come back next sure
Gabbidon- just costing us money and not doing nothing

Id like all that lot cleared out. We need to start afresh! At a push Id keep Jones but use him as a super sub only!

Who don't you want in our squad for next year (that are here now)?

Mine would be

Whittingham- not effective as he used to
Jones- can't be watching him stroll around most games
Macheda - same as jones ! Drives me mad
Noone- isn't doing it for me anymore
Le fondre- clearly doesn't want to be here now he's off on loan not that a blame him but can't imagine him wanting to come back next sure
Gabbidon- just costing us money and not doing nothing

Id like all that lot cleared out. We need to start afresh! At a push Id keep Jones but use him as a super sub only!

He's first on my list mate lol
On them high wages
Pisses me off I work my arse off for nothing and he does nothing and gets loads
But I do agree most of the squad should go really. But them the most for me
Like you said need a fresh start
To many players not pulling their weight

Who don't you want in our squad for next year (that are here now)?

Mine would be

Whittingham- not effective as he used to
Jones- can't be watching him stroll around most games
Macheda - same as jones ! Drives me mad
Noone- isn't doing it for me anymore
Le fondre- clearly doesn't want to be here now he's off on loan not that a blame him but can't imagine him wanting to come back next sure
Gabbidon- just costing us money and not doing nothing

Id like all that lot cleared out. We need to start afresh! At a push Id keep Jones but use him as a super sub only!

He's first on my list mate lol
On them high wages
Pisses me off I work my arse off for nothing and he does nothing and gets loads
But I do agree most of the squad should go really. But them the most for me
Like you said need a fresh start
To many players not pulling their weight

Sorry mate I do agree about the wages bit, however I find it all offensive no matter which player we talk about. When honest people are struggling on poor pay after a solid days work and these prima donnas are being paid offensive amount of dosh for kicking around a bag of air it enrages me. But you are right if we got rid of all on your list they wouldn't be missed. Id be happy if we just kept Bruno next season but that's not likely to happen!

Who don't you want in our squad for next year (that are here now)?

Mine would be

Whittingham- not effective as he used to
Jones- can't be watching him stroll around most games
Macheda - same as jones ! Drives me mad
Noone- isn't doing it for me anymore
Le fondre- clearly doesn't want to be here now he's off on loan not that a blame him but can't imagine him wanting to come back next sure
Gabbidon- just costing us money and not doing nothing

Id like all that lot cleared out. We need to start afresh! At a push Id keep Jones but use him as a super sub only!

He's first on my list mate lol
On them high wages
Pisses me off I work my arse off for nothing and he does nothing and gets loads
But I do agree most of the squad should go really. But them the most for me
Like you said need a fresh start
To many players not pulling their weight

Sorry mate I do agree about the wages bit, however I find it all offensive no matter which player we talk about. When honest people are struggling on poor pay after a solid days work and these prima donnas are being paid offensive amount of dosh for kicking around a bag of air it enrages me. But you are right if we got rid of all on your list they wouldn't be missed. Id be happy if we just kept Bruno next season but that's not likely to happen!

Too right they are
But dont blame them they are offered it
But I wished they worked hard for all that money

Yeah same said that on a post above about manga top draw he is
Will be hard to replace him next year

Dikgacoi - Constantly injured/not fit
Kenwyne unless he agreed to a huge pay cut
Macheda - Infuriates me with his half arsed jumps for headers and general lack of running
Maynard - Hasn't looked the same since his injury

Dikgacoi - Constantly injured/not fit
Kenwyne unless he agreed to a huge pay cut
Macheda - Infuriates me with his half arsed jumps for headers and general lack of running
Maynard - Hasn't looked the same since his injury

I forgot about dikgacoi and Maynard haha
Says it all
Add them to my list aswell

Whitts isn't effective. Yet who got the assist last night

He takes all the corners mun
If someone else took the corners they'd get the assists
He's not effective in the position on the pitch is my point !
Yeah great takes the corners etc but I want more than that from him !

Whitts also takes possession of the ball more often than any other player, makes more passes than any other player (Currently 1680 - 500 more than any other player), has the highest passing accuracy %- 82.4%, more than double the number of key passes than any other player, more assists than any other play with 8 of which only 3 have come from corners. 2 from freekicks and 3 from open play.

It's funny how people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.

Who don't you want in our squad for next year (that are here now)?

Mine would be

Whittingham- not effective as he used to
Jones- can't be watching him stroll around most games
Macheda - same as jones ! Drives me mad
Noone- isn't doing it for me anymore
Le fondre- clearly doesn't want to be here now he's off on loan not that a blame him but can't imagine him wanting to come back next sure
Gabbidon- just costing us money and not doing nothing

Two top goal scorers and according to stats, most effective midfielder .............

I'd love Manga to stay but he really deserves to be playing at a higher level. Same with Marshall. Isn't Kenwynne's contract up in the summer anyway? Macheda is just one of those players who looks lazy and does nothing, except his goals to games ratio is quite impressive.

We need a midfield general who can spray passes around a bit, and with a bit of bite to his play. Someone like Cattermole at Sunderland, but preferably doesn't get sent off so often. The other players who have looked poor at times may then benefit.

Fabio - hugely overrated, poor defender, loses his head, little end product. Maybe he'd fit into another team more easily and its just our style of play doesn't suit his forward running forays. For me he's a luxury

I like whitts, keeping him would all depend on what wage he is on. He has had quite a few contract extension so I'd bet he is on a very good wage.

I thought Maynard had his contract terminated? Or was it just a rumour.

Whitts isn't effective. Yet who got the assist last night

He takes all the corners mun
If someone else took the corners they'd get the assists
He's not effective in the position on the pitch is my point !
Yeah great takes the corners etc but I want more than that from him !

Whitts also takes possession of the ball more often than any other player, makes more passes than any other player (Currently 1680 - 500 more than any other player), has the highest passing accuracy %- 82.4%, more than double the number of key passes than any other player, more assists than any other play with 8 of which only 3 have come from corners. 2 from freekicks and 3 from open play.

It's funny how people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.

I thank whittingham for all he's done for us in the past years been great for us
I said I'd like to see him go as he ain't as effective to the team as he used to and he also doesn't fit our 442 system I don't think
He doesn't do the dirty side of a centre midfielder can't tackle can't get around quick as he used to he's quite lazy as well I find
Yes I do also see the good things he does as for assists from corners but other players could take them and get assists
Got a great passing range etc but just not doing it for me anymore
Just my opinion

Who don't you want in our squad for next year (that are here now)?

Mine would be

Whittingham- not effective as he used to
Jones- can't be watching him stroll around most games
Macheda - same as jones ! Drives me mad
Noone- isn't doing it for me anymore
Le fondre- clearly doesn't want to be here now he's off on loan not that a blame him but can't imagine him wanting to come back next sure
Gabbidon- just costing us money and not doing nothing

Two top goal scorers and according to stats, most effective midfielder .............

Yes they maybe the top goals scorers but 11 league goals for jones and 6 for macheda
That's not going to get us far isit ? Hence our position in the table
We need better strikers that's why I want them gone
If we want to get anywhere we should have a striker with a lot more than that

Might be our most effective midfielder with assists etc but the stats don't show his negatives side of his game

Whitts isn't effective. Yet who got the assist last night

He takes all the corners mun
If someone else took the corners they'd get the assists
He's not effective in the position on the pitch is my point !
Yeah great takes the corners etc but I want more than that from him !

Whitts also takes possession of the ball more often than any other player, makes more passes than any other player (Currently 1680 - 500 more than any other player), has the highest passing accuracy %- 82.4%, more than double the number of key passes than any other player, more assists than any other play with 8 of which only 3 have come from corners. 2 from freekicks and 3 from open play.

It's funny how people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.

I thank whittingham for all he's done for us in the past years been great for us
I said I'd like to see him go as he ain't as effective to the team as he used to and he also doesn't fit our 442 system I don't think
He doesn't do the dirty side of a centre midfielder can't tackle can't get around quick as he used to he's quite lazy as well I find
Yes I do also see the good things he does as for assists from corners but other players could take them and get assists
Got a great passing range etc but just not doing it for me anymore
Just my opinion

It may well surprise you to know that the player you think can't tackle actually has the 2nd highest successful tackling % of any player this season with 79%. Only Brayford with 85% success has been better than Whitts but now that he has gone that leaves Whitts as our best current tackler.

As regards doing the dirty side ofthe centre midfield role Whitts has proved time and again that he is prepared to "Take one for the team", as he did for his first booking against Wolves.

In terms of blocks or interception Whitts is the the top 3 of any of those categorys which again is a measure of his effectiveness in our team and his willingness and ability to do "The dirty side of the role".

As I say people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.

Whitts isn't effective. Yet who got the assist last night

He takes all the corners mun
If someone else took the corners they'd get the assists
He's not effective in the position on the pitch is my point !
Yeah great takes the corners etc but I want more than that from him !

Whitts also takes possession of the ball more often than any other player, makes more passes than any other player (Currently 1680 - 500 more than any other player), has the highest passing accuracy %- 82.4%, more than double the number of key passes than any other player, more assists than any other play with 8 of which only 3 have come from corners. 2 from freekicks and 3 from open play.

It's funny how people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.

I thank whittingham for all he's done for us in the past years been great for us
I said I'd like to see him go as he ain't as effective to the team as he used to and he also doesn't fit our 442 system I don't think
He doesn't do the dirty side of a centre midfielder can't tackle can't get around quick as he used to he's quite lazy as well I find
Yes I do also see the good things he does as for assists from corners but other players could take them and get assists
Got a great passing range etc but just not doing it for me anymore
Just my opinion

It may well surprise you to know that the player you think can't tackle actually has the 2nd highest successful tackling % of any player this season with 79%. Only Brayford with 85% success has been better than Whitts but now that he has gone that leaves Whitts as our best current tackler.

As regards doing the dirty side ofthe centre midfield role Whitts has proved time and again that he is prepared to "Take one for the team", as he did for his first booking against Wolves.

In terms of blocks or interception Whitts is the the top 3 of any of those categorys which again is a measure of his effectiveness in our team and his willingness and ability to do "The dirty side of the role".

As I say people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.

Where you getting these stupid stats from ?
Most the time he doesn't even bother and strolls around
Yeah took one for the team got 2 yellows for being caught out of position he didn't take one for team he missed the player for the one tackle and took one down as he cant tackle
You can say all you want mate I've been to all the home cames bar from one down the illness
Go away most games
I do see a lot of him
Like I said he's not effective as he used to be
He doesn't fit our system
I feel like just like some of the others he doesn't put a shift in and it frustrates me
I want a fresh new midfield next year because this one we have now is were our problems are

Who don't you want in our squad for next year (that are here now)?

Mine would be

Whittingham- not effective as he used to
Jones- can't be watching him stroll around most games
Macheda - same as jones ! Drives me mad
Noone- isn't doing it for me anymore
Le fondre- clearly doesn't want to be here now he's off on loan not that a blame him but can't imagine him wanting to come back next sure
Gabbidon- just costing us money and not doing nothing

Two top goal scorers and according to stats, most effective midfielder .............

Yes they maybe the top goals scorers but 11 league goals for jones and 6 for macheda
That's not going to get us far isit ? Hence our position in the table
We need better strikers that's why I want them gone
If we want to get anywhere we should have a striker with a lot more than that

Might be our most effective midfielder with assists etc but the stats don't show his negatives side of his game

So get rid of the ones who can't score and add to the ones who can, Macheda has had a lot less games than Le Fondre for us but scores more per game.........


As for Whitts see castleblue above sums it up perfectly........

Playing staff id also add Marshall, Manga, Turner, Gunnar, Morrison, Pilkington to the list, big earners and other than Manga I think we will cope without them.

They are top championship players if he gets rid of them you and slade deserve league 1 football

Whitts isn't effective. Yet who got the assist last night

He takes all the corners mun
If someone else took the corners they'd get the assists
He's not effective in the position on the pitch is my point !
Yeah great takes the corners etc but I want more than that from him !

Whitts also takes possession of the ball more often than any other player, makes more passes than any other player (Currently 1680 - 500 more than any other player), has the highest passing accuracy %- 82.4%, more than double the number of key passes than any other player, more assists than any other play with 8 of which only 3 have come from corners. 2 from freekicks and 3 from open play.

It's funny how people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.

^^^ This. Absolutely spot on