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The Israeli people have spoken

Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:43 am

Netanyahu said if he's elected there will be NO Palestinian state. We all know what that means.

The Israeli people have just voted this scumbag back in telling us everything we need to know.

After the Holocaust how they can think this is okay its disgusting. Their people are being wiped out by this disgusting human being and those under his power.

Free Palestine!

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:55 am

Oh dear

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:35 am

I hope none of our fans take a Palestine flag next week :roll:

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:38 am

CardiffCityBlue wrote:I hope none of our fans take a Palestine flag next week :roll:

on a serious note, what happens there actually affects us for some strange reason ;)
but I do understand what you mean, what has this got to do with football :laughing6:

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:52 am

To simply say the 2 state solution is not going to happen is terrible. Years of work down the drain.

"Their people are being wiped out by this disgusting human being and those under his power."

Israel have carried out border expansion quite clearly, but honestly, if you think Israel are the evil of the Middle East then I'm afraid you couldn't be more wrong.

George Galloway and people of his ilk, could turn there attention to other countries in the Middle East that actively look for Israel and the West's demise, but they prefer to bang on about Gaza. Why is this you might ask?.

It is for the sole reason that Muslims are the victims. Jews: rich and white, against Muslims: Arabs and poor. The story writes itself. Israel Palestine is frankly small fry in comparison to other conflicts in Africa and the Middle east, where people are being butchered every day.

Blueminati, could you please explain to me, where those most noble people in Gaza stand morally, when they actively fire rockets at schools and hospitals. Only to be stopped by Israels defense systems.

If Hamas had Israels firepower, there would be an absolute blood bath.

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:59 am

CardiffCityBlue wrote:I hope none of our fans take a Palestine flag next week :roll:


I was thinking the same thing.

Hopefully not!.

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:05 am

Palestine is a terrorist state with a terrorist government. Have we not learned from Iraq Syria and Lybia to give them freedom has created ISIS and a very dangerous world. Well done Israel

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:15 am

Depressed Blue wrote:Blueminati, could you please explain to me, where those most noble people in Gaza stand morally, when they actively fire rockets at schools and hospitals. Only to be stopped by Israels defense systems.

If Hamas had Israels firepower, there would be an absolute blood bath.


As a Welshman, you should be able to understand quite easily people who have no alternative but to fight for the very existence of their people. Its systematic genocide and ethnic cleansing and its absolutely vulgar. The problem is, people see Hamas doing what they're doing and look at that at its literal value but never ask why they're doing it deep down. Yes they're doing evil things as well but they've been forced to by the ethnic cleansing and land taking by Israel since the 1940s.

It wasn't that long ago that we as Welsh people were trying to be wiped out completely. You'd do well to remember that. And before someone says its not genocide, yes it is. Israel has the capability to stop attacks and respond in measure. They've never done that. They continue their expansionist policy and are doing so with the sheer intent of wiping out the Palestinian people.

People like Netanyahu are hypocritical Zionists no better than Hitler himself. Evil is evil and thats something they both have in common. Two wrongs don't make a right. Furthermore, to suggest a two state solution is off the table and a 'Palestinian state' won't exist if voted back in is inhumane. The guy is pure scum. All the Jews who do not align with this disgusting persons views, many of them do exist, I sympathise with as well because his disgusting actions have led to their persecution across Europe and its all done so they flee to Israel and give him what he wants.

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He has never wanted a two state solution. He has always wanted to wipe the Palestinians out but couldn't go full out to do it because it goes against the UN Convention. Instead, they pick times when to respond and have expanded over decades consuming Palestinian land as their own.

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/10/ethnic-cleansing-israeli

Israel is as bad as any backward Middle Eastern state really, if not worse. Sorry, but if you support Israel then you're a supporter of colonialism, apartheid and ethnic cleansing. Vulgar.

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:22 am

Nuclearblue wrote:Palestine is a terrorist state with a terrorist government. Have we not learned from Iraq Syria and Lybia to give them freedom has created ISIS and a very dangerous world. Well done Israel


When did Hamas assume power? Oh right, long after the ethnic cleansing started happening. Hamas took power because the Palestinians knew of no other way but to fight for their very existence. If Jihadist Muslims established an Islamic State in the UK and then started persecuting Brits, attacking them and using expansionist policies to enlarge the Islamic State within Britain, would you be surprised if an EDL/Britain First type party got into power? Would you be surprised if British people started fighting back and resorting to horrible tactics in response to what they were doing? No you wouldn't.

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:33 am

Israel have every right to a 'homeland', just as the Palestinians do. But do you honestly believe Palestinians would live in peace next to a Jews? You're living in a dream world. Israel is hated in the Middle East for the reason that it is a Western backed, non Muslim country.

People throw about the term 'homeland', when over the course of time, no one has a pedigree homeland. The Romans, the crusades, the Ottomans/ Christianity, Islam, Judaism Who rightfully owns what?.

As I've said, Israel are the only non Muslim country in the area. How long do you think they would last if they did not take a stand against attacks on its people?. They live under constant paranoia.

The image that you've attached does tell a story of illegal occupation. In over 40 years we have seen that gradually decrease.

Palestinians can live in Israel, but can Jews live in Palestine?.

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:39 am

A Palestinian not long ago ran into a Synagogue in Jerusalem and butchered 5 people. Chopping them to death.

The Israelis responded by levelling his house, that is all.

Quite a restrained response.

Illegal occupation is one thing, continually aiming rockets at playgrounds and schools is another.

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:43 am

You wouldn't last night a week in a lot of the countries that you compare to Israel. Yet you could live a long and prosperous life in Israel. Beggars belief that you would side the Saudis, Iranians or Syrias over Israel. Comparing them to the Nazis is beyond laughable and have been truly taken in.

AMMAN (Reuters) - The death toll after nearly four years of civil war in Syria has risen to 210,060, nearly half of them civilians, but the real figure is probably much higher, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said on Saturday.7 Feb 2015

But I guess Muslims killing Muslims doesn't have the same genocidal ring to it?.

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:16 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Palestine is a terrorist state with a terrorist government. Have we not learned from Iraq Syria and Lybia to give them freedom has created ISIS and a very dangerous world. Well done Israel
agree they are so backward in there faith that it will never work

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:17 pm

Depressed Blue wrote:You wouldn't last night a week in a lot of the countries that you compare to Israel. Yet you could live a long and prosperous life in Israel. Beggars belief that you would side the Saudis, Iranians or Syrias over Israel. Comparing them to the Nazis is beyond laughable and have been truly taken in.

AMMAN (Reuters) - The death toll after nearly four years of civil war in Syria has risen to 210,060, nearly half of them civilians, but the real figure is probably much higher, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said on Saturday.7 Feb 2015

But I guess Muslims killing Muslims doesn't have the same genocidal ring to it?.

Sometimes it's better the devil you know rather than regime change

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:32 pm

Depressed Blue wrote:You wouldn't last night a week in a lot of the countries that you compare to Israel. Yet you could live a long and prosperous life in Israel. Beggars belief that you would side the Saudis, Iranians or Syrias over Israel. Comparing them to the Nazis is beyond laughable and have been truly taken in.

AMMAN (Reuters) - The death toll after nearly four years of civil war in Syria has risen to 210,060, nearly half of them civilians, but the real figure is probably much higher, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said on Saturday.7 Feb 2015

But I guess Muslims killing Muslims doesn't have the same genocidal ring to it?.

It's disgusting what's happening in Syria as well but with Israel they're much more supported by the USA and the west. Even Obama is fuming after Netanyahu turned back on his word about the 2 state solution and hopefully it'll lead to a change in USA policy to Israel.

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:35 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Palestine is a terrorist state with a terrorist government. Have we not learned from Iraq Syria and Lybia to give them freedom has created ISIS and a very dangerous world. Well done Israel

We didn't give them freedom, we destroyed their countries and killed their civilians which has bred such resentment that people want to harm us. There will always be a few loonies but our government has managed to be the best recruiting tool for Isis.

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:17 pm

blueminati wrote:Netanyahu said if he's elected there will be NO Palestinian state. We all know what that means.

The Israeli people have just voted this scumbag back in telling us everything we need to know.

After the Holocaust how they can think this is okay its disgusting. Their people are being wiped out by this disgusting human being and those under his power.

Free Palestine!

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Its a total disaster for the Palestinian people and now he will continue to carry out his massacres,that USA and Britain turn a blind eye to :evil:

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:46 pm

Palestine is not a country (state). Palestine is a region (like Western Europe or the Far East).

Palestine was the name given to the region by the Roman occupation in an attempt to wipe out the Israelis (Jews/Hebrews).
Jews have lived in that country/area for 4000 years, the Palestinians, as you call them, have been there for a couple of 100 years. The land of Judea (where Palestine is now a part, was much bigger than the current Israel, and covered parts of Syria, Jordan etc as they are now known). The Jews were forced out, and are now just trying to live in peace in their rightful lands.

What have the Arabs done with the land in that time? Nothing. They are allegedly starving but spend all their money and resources on 1000's of missiles to fire indiscriminately at Israeli schools and houses. Instead of building houses, schools etc they use the concrete to build tunnels to invade Israel. Palestinians are hated by Egyptians, Syrians and Jordanians, who all refuse to help them.

The "Palestinian" government (supported by its people) are dedicated to the eradication of the Jews and Israel.
Hate the Jews, wipe them out, destroy Israel? Sounds like someone else in the last 100 years, doesn't it.
Perhaps that is why the socialists among you are so anti-Isreal? Remember Hitler was the leader of the German Socialist Party (Nazis = National Socialist Workers Party).

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:17 pm

if the palestinians are granted a state, they will still fire rockets into israeli civilians, they will use the new land as a new base. they will still want all israelis and jews dead.

they will not compromise. its difficult and people on here can pontificate in the comfort of their armchair in a peaceful country about about how israelis have no right to respond with force to rocket and terrorist acts. if france sent rockets into england, we would wipe them off the map. what israel has done is respond with reasonable force to a group of people that thought the holocaust didnt go far enough.

Re: The Israeli people have spoken

Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:57 am

abergblue wrote:Palestine is not a country (state). Palestine is a region (like Western Europe or the Far East).

Palestine was the name given to the region by the Roman occupation in an attempt to wipe out the Israelis (Jews/Hebrews).
Jews have lived in that country/area for 4000 years, the Palestinians, as you call them, have been there for a couple of 100 years. The land of Judea (where Palestine is now a part, was much bigger than the current Israel, and covered parts of Syria, Jordan etc as they are now known). The Jews were forced out, and are now just trying to live in peace in their rightful lands.

What have the Arabs done with the land in that time? Nothing. They are allegedly starving but spend all their money and resources on 1000's of missiles to fire indiscriminately at Israeli schools and houses. Instead of building houses, schools etc they use the concrete to build tunnels to invade Israel. Palestinians are hated by Egyptians, Syrians and Jordanians, who all refuse to help them.

The "Palestinian" government (supported by its people) are dedicated to the eradication of the Jews and Israel.
Hate the Jews, wipe them out, destroy Israel? Sounds like someone else in the last 100 years, doesn't it.
Perhaps that is why the socialists among you are so anti-Isreal? Remember Hitler was the leader of the German Socialist Party (Nazis = National Socialist Workers Party).

:notworthy: jordan is supposedly palastian land too.funny they never ask for any of that back.im not anti palastinian but lets been honest.hamas etc want the destruction of israel.hamas who are overdue a election in gaza which they have denied the gaza public to hang on to power and make a fortune out of taxing terror tunnels and funneling aid money into their bank accounts moaning about israel democraticly electing a leader/party in elections that are held when they are supposed to be held/ :laughing6: