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Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:40 pm
Major boost for Cardiff Airport with airline Flybe to announce 10 new routes including to Munich, Dublin, Paris and Milan.
Airline Flybe is expected to announce a significant expansion of its routes out of Cardiff Airport tomorrow morning in a move that will provide a huge boost to passenger numbers.
The airline, currently operates a Cardiff to Belfast route and from April will launch a new summer season once a week service to Dusseldorf.
However, in a major vote of confidence in Cardiff, it has agreed to locate two aircraft at the Rhoose-based airport.
It is understood that it is making a long-term commitment to the airport in an investment being supported by the Welsh Government.
Details of the new routes will be revealed tomorrow by Flybe, which is listed on the London Stock Market.
However, they are understood to be:
Cork, Dublin, Edinburgh, Faro, Geneva, Glasgow International, Jersey, Milan Malpensa, Munich and Charles De Gaulle Airport in Paris.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/b ... ne-8771121
Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:30 pm
Excellent
Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:03 pm
Used to fly with FLYBE from Cardiff to Edinburgh before I moved here. Was cheaper to go from Bristol most of the time though!!
Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:31 pm
Browny won't be happy
Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:54 pm
Lets see what the prices are compared to the same routes out of Bristol first
Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:40 pm
yeah. bristol first choice, cardiff, always more expensive
Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:27 pm
More good news to come with Ryanair going to announce more routes soon ,I was speaking to a pilot on the way back from Tenerife and he was saying that ryan Air have done a deal with bp for cheaper fuel at Cardiff and looking to expand routes. Also Bristol are nearly at breaking point and can't accommodate any more routes
Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:36 pm
wez1927 wrote:More good news to come with Ryanair going to announce more routes soon ,I was speaking to a pilot on the way back from Tenerife and he was saying that ryan Air have done a deal with bp for cheaper fuel at Cardiff and looking to expand routes. Also Bristol are nearly at breaking point and can't accommodate any more routes
All the more why Sevenside Airport should have had the go ahead then WeZ!!! Also the fuel for aircraft has dropped across the board not just with BP
Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:46 am
Military Junta wrote:wez1927 wrote:More good news to come with Ryanair going to announce more routes soon ,I was speaking to a pilot on the way back from Tenerife and he was saying that ryan Air have done a deal with bp for cheaper fuel at Cardiff and looking to expand routes. Also Bristol are nearly at breaking point and can't accommodate any more routes
All the more why Sevenside Airport should have had the go ahead then WeZ!!! Also the fuel for aircraft has dropped across the board not just with BP
Severnside Airport was just a pipe dream.
Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:25 am
wez1927 wrote:Browny won't be happy
thats what i was thinking
Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:22 am
That's great news ..... lets hope more Airlines follow ?
Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:12 am
cardiff yid wrote:Military Junta wrote:wez1927 wrote:More good news to come with Ryanair going to announce more routes soon ,I was speaking to a pilot on the way back from Tenerife and he was saying that ryan Air have done a deal with bp for cheaper fuel at Cardiff and looking to expand routes. Also Bristol are nearly at breaking point and can't accommodate any more routes
All the more why Sevenside Airport should have had the go ahead then WeZ!!! Also the fuel for aircraft has dropped across the board not just with BP
Severnside Airport was just a pipe dream.

Agree there is no way Bristol airport owners were going to roll over on this why would they ?
Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:03 am
wez1927 wrote:cardiff yid wrote:Military Junta wrote:wez1927 wrote:More good news to come with Ryanair going to announce more routes soon ,I was speaking to a pilot on the way back from Tenerife and he was saying that ryan Air have done a deal with bp for cheaper fuel at Cardiff and looking to expand routes. Also Bristol are nearly at breaking point and can't accommodate any more routes
All the more why Sevenside Airport should have had the go ahead then WeZ!!! Also the fuel for aircraft has dropped across the board not just with BP
Severnside Airport was just a pipe dream.

Agree there is no way Bristol airport owners were going to roll over on this why would they ?
So basically you are saying that the WAG wasted millions more of our taxes in employing a totally Independent panel to look into the best way forward for local air travel. That Independent panel stated that the preferred option was Sevenside yet a week later the WAG buys Cardiff Airport!!!
Lets just see what the prices are like before we pop the champagne because no-one has mentioned prices yet
Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:34 am
Now the truth is coming out about this!!!!
Talking about it on Radio Wales and the expert on there is saying that type of plane which they are using are old aircraft and too big for the normal Flybe model. The result of that means that it wouldn't be able to complete against the low cost prices which their competitors would charge. He stated that you'd be looking at around £150/£200 one way on these new flights which means that its going to be Bristol for many still. Also the WAG has given the airport millions to pass onto the airline for these routes.
Keep the champagne on ice unfortunately
Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:40 pm
Well they currently use the dash 8 for flights, not that old but not the nicest plane but thats for domestic flights.
They are basing two embraers which they have used from time to time at cardiff, they are bigger and nicer planes and newer than the Dash 8 I believe.
Flybe said prices start from £29.99 each way, no doubt that will go up and up as passengers book.
Personally I would be happy to pay a little more than have to travel and park up etc in Bristol. Although my parents were looking for a holiday for 6 people last week and the one they wanted was just over £1000 more at Bristol.
Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:57 pm
I cant click on it in work, might have a look later though.
I worked at the airport and dispatched with the planes so I know what they are
Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:59 pm
2blue2handle wrote:I cant click on it in work, might have a look later though.
I worked at the airport and dispatched with the planes so I know what they are

I know you have but I am just saying what the expert said and this deal isn't as good as people think. He even said that 'Flybe AREN'T classed as a low cost carrier' which surprised me tbh
Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:00 pm
No I wouldnt say they are low cost, although think they may call themselves low cost. I dont think the flights will be cheap but hopefully reasonable.
Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:06 pm
2blue2handle wrote:No I wouldnt say they are low cost, although think they may call themselves low cost. I dont think the flights will be cheap but hopefully reasonable.
No figures were stated in the debate but it would be very disaapointing if the airline has had a shedload of cash (our taxes) and in the end just offer new routes which are unreasonable in price
Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:17 pm
Military Junta wrote:2blue2handle wrote:No I wouldnt say they are low cost, although think they may call themselves low cost. I dont think the flights will be cheap but hopefully reasonable.
No figures were stated in the debate but it would be very disaapointing if the airline has had a shedload of cash (our taxes) and in the end just offer new routes which are unreasonable in price
Question is why are they using cdf if can do better elswhere? Subsidy wont make that much difference

at end day its more routes from here, and it shows a positive spin whatever your views on it!
Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:25 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Military Junta wrote:2blue2handle wrote:No I wouldnt say they are low cost, although think they may call themselves low cost. I dont think the flights will be cheap but hopefully reasonable.
No figures were stated in the debate but it would be very disaapointing if the airline has had a shedload of cash (our taxes) and in the end just offer new routes which are unreasonable in price
Question is why are they using cdf if can do better elswhere? Subsidy wont make that much difference

at end day its more routes from here, and it shows a positive spin whatever your views on it!

He is saying that the aircraft they are using they don't want anymore!!!
Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:21 pm
It is staggeringly unfair that Westminster will not devolve Air passenger duty to Wales (Despite it being devolved to Edinburgh and Belfast!). They really do take us for mugs.
Tories always bang on about competition, but block it at every chance when it comes to Cardiff/ Bristol airport.
Deep down they know that if the WG had all the powers at their disposal, it would mean terrible things for Bristol.
As for Severnside, it was a good idea at the time, but is dead in the water. Get over it.
The below link is very promising:
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/b ... 00-8778618
Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:14 pm
Would love to know how much was given for this and no I won't get over it because the idea is the future
Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:52 pm
Military Junta wrote:Would love to know how much was given for this and no I won't get over it because the idea is the future
Only other thing can draw by your inference is that they are screwing wag for subsidy with no intention of staying long term so take money and run when sub comes to end!
Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:28 pm
Military Junta wrote:2blue2handle wrote:No I wouldnt say they are low cost, although think they may call themselves low cost. I dont think the flights will be cheap but hopefully reasonable.
No figures were stated in the debate but it would be very disaapointing if the airline has had a shedload of cash (our taxes) and in the end just offer new routes which are unreasonable in price
But nowhere near as disappointing as the
UK Government giving hundreds of BILLIONS of pounds to bail out the banks to cover for the fuck-ups of greedy bankers

Why do you continuously worry about the spending of £52m which may or may not turn out to be a good investment(only time will tell) but you are more than happy to ignore the waste of an absolute gigantic amount of money which will have a knock on effect for future generations?
Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:21 pm
because the WAG have fucked up the Welsh NHS when people are dying yet prefer to buy a shite airport with funding which should have gone to the NHS
Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:44 pm
Military Junta wrote:because the WAG have fucked up the Welsh NHS when people are dying yet prefer to buy a shite airport with funding which should have gone to the NHS
The WAG have had their budget drastically cut by London hence the problems with the NHS. England's NHS is in deep shit too. Eleven children and a mother dying needlessly in the Morecambe bay area due to severe problems with the maternity unit which comes on top of mid staffs. Lots of English NHS professionals unhappy at the creeping privatisation. Imagine the good that could have been done within the NHS with the hundreds of billions of pounds wasted by the greedy, incompetent bankers. You could say that
they are to blame for a lot of deaths in the NHS as well as the UK government for rewarding the bankers for their incompetence. But whatever you want to believe. You seem obsessed with knocking the WAG.
Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:51 pm
It was WAGs decision to divert funding from the Welsh NHS to buy the airport and you say it's was £52 million but that's not the case as they have given the airport further funding with the latest cheque signed for £13 million!!! Together with running costs it's not far of £100 million and raising!!! You can't blame Westminister for this WAG decision
Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:55 pm
Running costs? Thought it was profitable?
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