According to Rotherham Site

Cardiff didn't even have to play well

There's been enough times this season where Rotherham have had to hold their hands up and say they were beaten by a better team on the day. Well that wasn't the case on Tuesday night and that makes it all the more frustrating. Cardiff were no great shakes and were there for the taking, especially in the first 20 minutes when the only work Millers keeper Adam Collin had to do was field some testing Kirk Broadfoot back-passes. But the generosity of the home defence allowed the Bluebirds a three-goal lead and they were not going to give that up.

Even with that advantage, Cardiff did not kick on and look to put the game to bed. Instead they put two banks of four behind the ball and invited Rotherham to try and break them down. There's no point dwelling on ifs and buts, but we will, if the Millers had scored in that opening 20 minutes, we could be sat here discussing a different outcome completely. Frustrating.

Sore losers springs to mind city battered them and should have scored more

Sore losers springs to mind city battered them and should have scored more

Really?

Possession

Rotherham 60%
Cardiff 40%

Shots On Target

Rotherham 2
Cardiff 5

Corners

Rotherham 9
Cardiff 3


Hardly inspiring against a team 4th from bottom.

Sore losers springs to mind city battered them and should have scored more

Wez, Great result for us ,but we def never battered them. in fact,if I was the Rotherham manager I would wonder how come they had lost 3-1 at home.

Sore losers springs to mind city battered them and should have scored more

Really?

Possession

Rotherham 60%
Cardiff 40%

Shots On Target

Rotherham 2
Cardiff 5

Corners

Rotherham 9
Cardiff 3


Hardly inspiring against a team 4th from bottom.

I don't know who you think Cardiff are at the moment?? They may have been 4th from bottom, but were only 4 points behind us until last night and a team who were arguably better than us in a 0-0 draw in the home fixture
Yes, we have been in the Premiership last year, but we haven't really looked like a quality team for at least 18 months and arguably before that, even Mackays promotion winning team rarely played anyone off the park

Sore losers springs to mind city battered them and should have scored more

Oh dear Wez you need a rocket up your arse.

Sore losers springs to mind city battered them and should have scored more

Oh dear Wez you need a rocket up your arse.

we had more chances stats prove we had more on target than them ,we should of scored more ! ravil had a disallowed goal too

Couldn't give a crap about stats. Chelsea have won numerous games with little possession too. They sit back, soak it up and score on the break or from a set piece. The only thing that matters is the final score. 99% possession is useless if you do nothing with it and the other team just put up a formidable defence and get a draw, a result they wanted.

Couldn't give a crap about stats. Chelsea have won numerous games with little possession too. They sit back, soak it up and score on the break or from a set piece. The only thing that matters is the final score. 99% possession is useless if you do nothing with it and the other team just put up a formidable defence and get a draw, a result they wanted.

Spot on someone talking sense at last! Look at Chelsea last year against Liverpool parked the bus and got a good result and won nobody gets prizes for possession football results do!

Worryingly, the stats aren't that much different from games where we've drawn or lost. I am still concerned by our over-reliance on scoring from set pieces. Don't get me wrong, a good result and a fantastic last couple of away wins but if we are looking long term I don't see us being more than a mid-table team at best with the current approach.

That said, is that what we need? Just a couple of seasons to sort things out?

We scored 3 goals they didn't end of story! Possession stats are pointless barca had 75% recently and lost! and considering we have low possession stats we are no worse than half teams in league in respect of goal difference!

Sore losers springs to mind city battered them and should have scored more

Wez, Great result for us ,but we def never battered them. in fact,if I was the Rotherham manager I would wonder how come they had lost 3-1 at home.

Swings and roundabouts though Annis. We should have had something last Saturday but we didn't. Stats against Rotherham say 5 shots on target and we scored 3. Got to be happy with that.

Probably an even game but we took our chances, two average sides but job done by City.

I actually didnt think we played that well last night. Our best period was the first 15 mins of the second half and a double save from the rotherham keeper stopped it being 4-0. We also looked dangerous at times coming forward but only because they were throwing everything at us. To be up 3 goals during a crazy 10 minute spell where things when right for us. After the first 20 i thought it was going to be a scrappy 0-0!

Sore losers springs to mind city battered them and should have scored more

Wez, Great result for us ,but we def never battered them. in fact,if I was the Rotherham manager I would wonder how come they had lost 3-1 at home.

Swings and roundabouts though Annis. We should have had something last Saturday but we didn't. Stats against Rotherham say 5 shots on target and we scored 3. Got to be happy with that.

Norm, I said that in another topic,it all evens out over the season

Sore losers springs to mind city battered them and should have scored more

Really?

Possession

Rotherham 60%
Cardiff 40%

Shots On Target

Rotherham 2
Cardiff 5

Corners

Rotherham 9
Cardiff 3


Hardly inspiring against a team 4th from bottom.

I don't know who you think Cardiff are at the moment?? They may have been 4th from bottom, but were only 4 points behind us until last night and a team who were arguably better than us in a 0-0 draw in the home fixture
Yes, we have been in the Premiership last year, but we haven't really looked like a quality team for at least 18 months and arguably before that, even Mackays promotion winning team rarely played anyone off the park

I agree with you, but those stats prove to Wez that we didn't "batter" Rotherham?

Couldn't give a crap about stats. Chelsea have won numerous games with little possession too. They sit back, soak it up and score on the break or from a set piece. The only thing that matters is the final score. 99% possession is useless if you do nothing with it and the other team just put up a formidable defence and get a draw, a result they wanted.

Spot on someone talking sense at last! Look at Chelsea last year against Liverpool parked the bus and got a good result and won nobody gets prizes for possession football results do!

Teams like Barcelona, Liverpool and Swansea who play possession football only do well when they make use of it. Barcelona and Liverpool have some world class player who can work the space and the ball to their advantage. Swansea have players who have been used to that system for years and years and know how to use it to its maximum potential. Its what they know. Unless you have quality players suited to that style of play or a developed club ethos thats the result of years and years of hard work, then you're simply not going to achieve playing that way effectively. For the Barcelona's, Liverpool's and Swansea's out there, there are numerous smaller clubs around Europe who play possession football and get battered almost every week as they get caught out, lose the ball and get countered easily.

Anyone who thinks possession is extremely important clearly didn't pay attention during this game.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/live ... 463/report

10% of effective possession that results in a goal is better than 90% of useless possession that doesn't.

Sore losers springs to mind city battered them and should have scored more

we had more shots on and off target

Really?

Possession

Rotherham 60%
Cardiff 40%

Shots On Target

Rotherham 2
Cardiff 5

Corners

Rotherham 9
Cardiff 3


Hardly inspiring against a team 4th from bottom.

I don't know who you think Cardiff are at the moment?? They may have been 4th from bottom, but were only 4 points behind us until last night and a team who were arguably better than us in a 0-0 draw in the home fixture
Yes, we have been in the Premiership last year, but we haven't really looked like a quality team for at least 18 months and arguably before that, even Mackays promotion winning team rarely played anyone off the park

I agree with you, but those stats prove to Wez that we didn't "batter" Rotherham?

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Sore losers springs to mind city battered them and should have scored more

Really?

Possession

Rotherham 60%
Cardiff 40%

Shots On Target

Rotherham 2
Cardiff 5

Corners

Rotherham 9
Cardiff 3


Hardly inspiring against a team 4th from bottom.

Stats mean next to nothing, as the score line showed.

Sore losers springs to mind city battered them and should have scored more

Wez, Great result for us ,but we def never battered them. in fact,if I was the Rotherham manager I would wonder how come they had lost 3-1 at home.

Swings and roundabouts though Annis. We should have had something last Saturday but we didn't. Stats against Rotherham say 5 shots on target and we scored 3. Got to be happy with that.

Norm, I said that in another topic,it all evens out over the season

It does mate, hopefully a strong finish and then the club shake hands with Slade and say thanks for your help but we want to try something different next season. Bye.

I never understand the argument "so and so had more possession the other night and still lost" - possession doesn't guarantee you a win, but overall the more you have ball the more chance you have of winning.

If you take the top 5 from the premier league and compare them to the bottom 5 then the top 5 will average more possession than the bottom 5 and more shots on target per game. That isn't a coincidence, the more of the game you can influence then the higher the chance of winning.

You can lose and have 1000 shots on target to their 1 but to say as a result its not important to have a significant amount more of shots on target than the opposition is nonsense. Stats are key to assessing performance levels which is why nearly every single manager uses them.

Be careful talking about possession stats.
You may wake the ghost of Roathy.......

God forbid

Sore losers springs to mind city battered them and should have scored more

Really?

Possession

Rotherham 60%
Cardiff 40%

Shots On Target

Rotherham 2
Cardiff 5

Corners

Rotherham 9
Cardiff 3


Hardly inspiring against a team 4th from bottom.

We restricted Rotherham to only 2 shots on target while we had 5 on target. Those are the stats that matter. Rotherham can have all the possession and corners they want but we they couldn't do anything with it because we were well organised. How many times have we struggled to break teams down at home because the opposition have done the same to us? How else can a team like us achieve results on the road right now? We went to Rotherham with a game plan and won, nothing frustrating about that!

Sore losers springs to mind city battered them and should have scored more

Really?

Possession

Rotherham 60%
Cardiff 40%

Shots On Target

Rotherham 2
Cardiff 5

Corners

Rotherham 9
Cardiff 3


Hardly inspiring against a team 4th from bottom.

We restricted Rotherham to only 2 shots on target while we had 5 on target. Those are the stats that matter. Rotherham can have all the possession and corners they want but we they couldn't do anything with it because we were well organised. How many times have we struggled to break teams down at home because the opposition have done the same to us? How else can a team like us achieve results on the road right now? We went to Rotherham with a game plan and won, nothing frustrating about that!

just need to improve at home now

Sore losers springs to mind city battered them and should have scored more

Wez, Great result for us ,but we def never battered them. in fact,if I was the Rotherham manager I would wonder how come they had lost 3-1 at home.

Swings and roundabouts though Annis. We should have had something last Saturday but we didn't. Stats against Rotherham say 5 shots on target and we scored 3. Got to be happy with that.

Norm, I said that in another topic,it all evens out over the season

It does mate, hopefully a strong finish and then the club shake hands with Slade and say thanks for your help but we want to try something different next season. Bye.

Norm, Perfect