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" FURIOUS "

Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:49 am

My opinion,thats football, over a season your luck/decisions even themselves out :thumbright:

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Rotherham United: Decisions infuriate Evans as Millers crash

five big decisions went against Rotherham.

Yorkshire Post

Wednesday 04 March 2015

ROTHERHAM UNITED manager Steve Evans felt the Millers were on the end of some dubious calls in last night’s 3-1 home loss to Cardiff City.

The Scot has railed against a host of perceived injustices at the hands of officials consistently this season and his ire was compounded by a number of decisions he felt went against his side in the clash with the Welsh outfit, whose line-up included Millers’ promotion hero Alex Revell.

Russell Slade’s side raced into a three-goal lead inside 35 minutes to stun the Millers, who claimed a big weekend victory over Millwall on Saturday.

Goals from Bruno Manga, Federico Macheda and Conor McAleny in the space of 11 minutes put Cardiff en route to back-to-back away wins for the first time in two years, with the Millers notching a late consolation on courtesy of ex-Huddersfield Town man Danny Ward.

Evans, whose fourth-from-bottom side remain six points above third-from-bottom Millwall, with a derby game next up at Huddersfield Town this weekend, said: “Their second goal was offside, so that`s difficult to accept and then I think we are a bit unfortunate for the third goal.

“Then, when you look at a goal from Matt Derbyshire that puts us in front given offside which was onside... So we have had a raw deal in the first half.

“We don`t live in a false world where we think we are going to come back from three-nil down, so at half-time we spoke to our players about character and showing a better desire and application and to go out and win the second half.

“And there was a key moment in the game on eighty-four minutes when their goalkeeper spills the ball and the referee gives a foul which when you look at the DVD, you see isn’t a foul.


‘So there were five big decisions here and I`m not here to defend my team based on decisions, but they do change the match.

“And if the officials can`t get simple decision right like that, then dear me I don`t know what to think any more.

“They are hard decisions to take, but it wasn`t the reason we were all over the place for ten minutes in the first half.”

Re: " FURIOUS "

Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:54 am

The phrase "Well, he would say that, wouldn't he?" springs to mind!

We were due a bit of luck so lets accept it gratefully and move on! :ayatollah:

Re: " FURIOUS "

Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:55 am

We were all over them it should of been more they were lucky

Re: " FURIOUS "

Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:27 pm

Luck generally evens itself out throughout the season, to coin a phrase "One day your the bat the next day your the ball" :thumbup:

Re: " FURIOUS "

Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:43 pm

wez1927 wrote:We were all over them it should of been more they were lucky



Tell you what Wez you should be on the stage.

Re: " FURIOUS "

Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:45 pm

Apart from the half hour spell in the first half they were probably better than us

Ref decision lost us the game Saturday now it's gone for us that's the way it goes

Re: " FURIOUS "

Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:03 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:We were all over them it should of been more they were lucky



Tell you what Wez you should be on the stage.

And your a bellend

Re: " FURIOUS "

Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:17 pm

Just a bitter man its not our fault they are shit and conceded 3 goals, so I say unlucky Steve ha ha

Re: " FURIOUS "

Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:29 pm

Yes, decisions might have gone against them but we still scored three fair goals. Not going to win many games at home when you concede three goals.

Re: " FURIOUS "

Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:59 pm

I said on the weekend that we can't keep blaming the ref every time we lose, and neither should other teams when we get a few decisions. These usually even themselves out, and neither Rotherham or us are where are we are in the league because of referees. Rotherham are towards the bottom because they are crap, and we are mid table because we are average. Talking to friends who went last night, I did'nt hear any of them say we were all over them, and most said there was little to choose between the two sides other than the finishing. Another two or three wins should make us safe, although I don't think we have ever been in serious danger of finishing in the bottom three.

Re: " FURIOUS "

Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:11 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:I said on the weekend that we can't keep blaming the ref every time we lose, and neither should other teams when we get a few decisions. These usually even themselves out, and neither Rotherham or us are where are we are in the league because of referees. Rotherham are towards the bottom because they are crap, and we are mid table because we are average. Talking to friends who went last night, I did'nt hear any of them say we were all over them, and most said there was little to choose between the two sides other than the finishing. Another two or three wins should make us safe, although I don't think we have ever been in serious danger of finishing in the bottom three.


Steve, All evens out over the season regarding Ref decisions,it went our way last night,another night it might not. :thumbright:

Re: " FURIOUS "

Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:37 pm

Did Slade beat Evans to the Cardiff Job?

He was on Sky last night and moaning about us being in £174million debt and having one player and more wages than his whole team.

All true but not for a manger to bring up after a football game surely.

Re: " FURIOUS "

Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:08 pm

What do you think Annis? Lol
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Re: " FURIOUS "

Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:00 pm

http://www.refereedecisions.co.uk/ref-r ... he-answer/

Re: " FURIOUS "

Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:54 pm

bluebird58 wrote:The phrase "Well, he would say that, wouldn't he?" springs to mind!

We were due a bit of luck so lets accept it gratefully and move on! :ayatollah:



Steve Evans was moaning, but I think he is wrong with all 3 of his complaints.

Derbyshire was offside by half a yard before he put the ball in the net. The linesman flagged early - before the cross came off Manga.

Macheda looked to be two yards onside before the second goal from the highlights - although it was impossible to see from the away end yesterday.

Paul Green was rightly penalised for kicking the ball out of Moore's hands a few minutes before the end of normal time.


It was a pretty even game apart from the goals and a spell in the second half when Cardiff played very well, with freedom, and Matt Kennedy ran riot. An average side beat a poor side - so stop moaning Steve!

Re: " FURIOUS "

Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:11 pm

It was an awful decision for the Rotherham 'goal' .

Manga has clearly played the ball which makes the Rotherham player onside as he is clearly not interfering with the centre half.

A poor decision .

Re: " FURIOUS "

Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:21 pm

Cwmbran Blue wrote:It was an awful decision for the Rotherham 'goal' .

Manga has clearly played the ball which makes the Rotherham player onside as he is clearly not interfering with the centre half.

A poor decision .


We all thought that there last night.

However looking at the replay Derbyshire was offside even before Manga got to the ball.

Re: " FURIOUS "

Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:25 pm

The player cannot be offside until he is involved in active play . He was not active when the ball was played .

Re: " FURIOUS "

Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:08 am

Cwmbran Blue wrote:The player cannot be offside until he is involved in active play . He was not active when the ball was played .


He was the target of the cross, and offside when the ball was kicked. Yes Manga got a touch on it as it came into the box but surely Derbyshire was 'active', and that is why the linesman flagged so quickly?

If that is wrong then OK. I'll just have to accept that (along with millions of others, including Tony Pulis and half the Premier League managers) I don't understand the interpretation of the offside law any more.

Re: " FURIOUS "

Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:36 am

jon1959 wrote:
Cwmbran Blue wrote:The player cannot be offside until he is involved in active play . He was not active when the ball was played .


He was the target of the cross, and offside when the ball was kicked. Yes Manga got a touch on it as it came into the box but surely Derbyshire was 'active', and that is why the linesman flagged so quickly?

If that is wrong then OK. I'll just have to accept that (along with millions of others, including Tony Pulis and half the Premier League managers) I don't understand the interpretation of the offside law any more.



it is not an offence to be in an offside position . For it to be an offence the player must do one of three things.

Interfere with play ( which means playing or touching the ball )

Interfere with an opponent (Preventing an opponent from playing the ball or distracting by gesture or movement towards an opponent ) or

Gaining an advantage from being in that offside position (playing a ball that hits the post or crossbar having been in that offside position or when a ball deflects or rebounds of an opponent )


The Rotherham player did none of the above . As the opponent clearly played the ball, he was not offside at that time , it was clearly an error by the assistant which the referee clearly should have picked up.