Malky and his texts

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New information has forced the FA to delay their verdict on Malky Mackay and Iain Moody's exchange of abusive text messages.

Wonder what this is now??

There is a suggestion that Malky was going to face no disciplinary action but now more people have come forward giving evidence against him. This includes former allies.

There is a suggestion that Malky was going to face no disciplinary action but now more people have come forward giving evidence against him. This includes former allies.

Hes up to his neck heard former players claim they were bullied

And now whelan quits as well.

There is a suggestion that Malky was going to face no disciplinary action but now more people have come forward giving evidence against him. This includes former allies.

Hes up to his neck heard former players claim they were bullied

Interesting, Im far from a fan of his and have always referred to his bully type ways, certainly how he comes across.

There is a suggestion that Malky was going to face no disciplinary action but now more people have come forward giving evidence against him. This includes former allies.

Hes up to his neck heard former players claim they were bullied

Interesting, Im far from a fan of his and have always referred to his bully type ways, certainly how he comes across.

What evidence of bullying? Just introduced something new to attack Malky Mackay.
Strange how the only ones who will claim bullying will be those who did not play.

Alex Ferguson/Brian Clough were bullies, and look how successful they were, and you do not hear people complaining about them and their tactics.
He is the boss and you do as he says or leave, that is the way of the world.

Strange how this new leaked evidence appears after dictator Tan reappears. Now there is a bully and an unsuccessful one as well. Trying to cover his disasters by blaming Malky Mackay, or any one else to divert attention from himself.

I dont have evidence, do you have evidence he isnt I said thats how he comes across as one, and the way some players have spoke of him is along the same lines. Maybe not the star players but others.

Does it matter where teh evidence has come from and when? the FA should be given all evidence for or against Malky to make a decision.

Why not wait until the truth comes out rather than make borderline slanderous claims?

Why not wait until the truth comes out rather than make borderline slanderous claims?

THE FA dont decide if he is a racist, his actions do.

THE FA dont decide if he is a racist, his actions do.

Why the defensive tone? My comments were not even in regard to the racism suggestion. My comments were in regard to the people suggesting he may have bullied players. Do these people have any evidence that he bullied players? If not then the people in question should shut up and as I said, stop making borderline slanderous comments.

It seems it's far from over. I wonder who these two witnesses are.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ky-8758275

I know many say the club should draw a line under it now but you have got to give Tan credit for his tenacity in this matter.

If others had made this stance a few decades ago we may have stamped it out back then. But then we never had technology back then to back it up.

Who would have thought Malky's full and frank confession would not have been the end of it.

Good on Tan as far as I'm concerned.

The only way to truly stamp out such backward ways of thinking is to go at them full pelt with the contempt they deserve. Tan has my full backing on this.

It is alleged that Tan is annoyed at the "lack of action", but there are also 'others' who have come forward to give evidence regarding Malky's treatment of players and staff at more than just one club(!)

We can only have a true opinion on Malky once all investigations are completed and the results of that are published, but things appear to be stacking up and I wonder if there might not be an 'announcement' in the wake of Dave Whelan's sudden decision to stand down at this odd time

Surely the end of the season would have been the better time?

Is this our club's way of trying to put the nail in the coffin of Wigan's season? Distasteful tactics but if it works!

Only joking. This whole saga is embarrassing for everyone involved. Everything should have come out at the time and Malky should have received his punishment then. This whole episode leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

On a sidenote, I don't believe the words of everyone coming forward. It's clear Malky was very stupid and said stuff that was obscene and unacceptable. I think everyone knows he's not a racist, but that doesn't justify or excuse what he said. However, I do think some players that failed to make an impression under him are now using it as an excuse for their failings which I find very disgusting.

Is this our club's way of trying to put the nail in the coffin of Wigan's season? Distasteful tactics but if it works!

Only joking. This whole saga is embarrassing for everyone involved. Everything should have come out at the time and Malky should have received his punishment then. This whole episode leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

On a sidenote, I don't believe the words of everyone coming forward. It's clear Malky was very stupid and said stuff that was obscene and unacceptable. I think everyone knows he's not a racist, but that doesn't justify or excuse what he said. However, I do think some players that failed to make an impression under him are now using it as an excuse for their failings which I find very disgusting.

what a strange thing to say.... based on what exactly?

I think everyone knows he's not a racist, but that doesn't justify or excuse what he said.

This has always confused me. If he admits to saying these things then how is he NOT a racist.

The same with Whelan. The FA find him guilty but understand that he is not racist????

When are you deemed a racist? If the there is a zero tolerance then aren't they both racist?

Is it only racist if its said to the face, there is violence involved or do you need to be wearing a white hood and carrying a flaming torch to finally be seen as a racist

I think everyone knows he's not a racist, but that doesn't justify or excuse what he said.

This has always confused me. If he admits to saying these things then how is he NOT a racist.

The same with Whelan. The FA find him guilty but understand that he is not racist????

When are you deemed a racist? If the there is a zero tolerance then aren't they both racist?

Is it only racist if its said to the face, there is violence involved or do you need to be wearing a white hood and carrying a flaming torch to finally be seen as a racist

Agreed. If that is the type of language he uses and level of disdain he has for other races/religions then he IS a racist. Saying sorry for his comments and not for his stand point means nothing.

You can forgive an isolated instance of using poor terminology but these texts were over a period of time and clearly show he had very little respect for a number of sections of society, some of whom would have been fans of his as a player and manager.

Let's wait and see what the findings are but these are very interesting developments.

I think there's a difference between being a racist and making racially offensive comments. Racism is a form of hatred for a particular race. Making racially offensive comments doesn't make you a racist necessarily but it makes you extremely stupid, naive, and uneducated on the impact and context of those comments.

Nowadays, people are too quick to devalue the term "racist" and attribute it to anyone that says something that isn't deemed socially acceptable towards a race.

Like I said, not excusing his comments at all. They were totally unacceptable. I'm very worried society is blurring the lines of what is a racist person and what are stupid racially offensive comments.

For example, if someone calls me a Taff does that make them a racist? That term is deemed racially offensive by many but it doesn't mean the person that says it is racist. They've made a racially offensive comment but it doesn't mean they have a hatred for the Welsh.

I think there's a difference between being a racist and making racially offensive comments. Racism is a form of hatred for a particular race. Making racially offensive comments doesn't make you a racist necessarily but it makes you extremely stupid, naive, and uneducated on the impact and context of those comments.

Nowadays, people are too quick to devalue the term "racist" and attribute it to anyone that says something that isn't deemed socially acceptable towards a race.

Like I said, not excusing his comments at all. They were totally unacceptable. I'm very worried society is blurring the lines of what is a racist person and what are stupid racially offensive comments.

For example, if someone calls me a Taff does that make them a racist? That term is deemed racially offensive by many but it doesn't mean the person that says it is racist. They've made a racially offensive comment but it doesn't mean they have a hatred for the Welsh.

You are showing yourself to be a little naïve and uneducated yourself pal The Welsh are not a race, they are part of the Caucasian, white Anglo Saxon Race, so you cannot be accused of being Racist for calling someone Taff or Jock, these are mere Nationalistic terms. However, what Malky has done is single out individuals and mocked their racial differences or indeed their gender and sexual differences. There are of course, different levels and intensity of racism, but make no mistake Malky and Moody have displayed Racist behaviour, which deems them as Racist. It's just silly to say, that he is just stupid, as no doubt ignorance and arrogance are the main causes of racism in people, if they display the behaviour, it does not detract from the fact, that they are indeed Racist.

You are showing yourself to be a little naïve and uneducated yourself pal The Welsh are not a race, they are part of the Caucasian, white Anglo Saxon Race, so you cannot be accused of being Racist for calling someone Taff or Jock, these are mere Nationalistic terms.

Of course the Welsh are a race. Race was initially used to describe affiliation to a nationality or region. It has since evolved to include describing people of a similar physical or theological group.