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27% of British Muslim sympathise with Charlie Hebdo killers

Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:54 am

The BBC as usual, defending the indefesnible. Look how differently the two below describe the disgraceful opinions of some British Muslims:

The Times
More than a quarter of British Muslims feel some sympathy with the motives of the Charlie Hebdo killers, according to a poll.

The survey on behalf of BBC Radio 4’s Today programme found that 27 per cent felt they could sympathise with the motives of the gunmen who shot dead 12 people, including journalists and police officers, at a satirical magazine in Paris on January 7, compared to 62 per cent who could not.

The polling organisation ComRes questioned 1,000 UK Muslims in late January and early February on a range of political, cultural and faith issues.


BBC News
The majority of British Muslims oppose violence against people who publish images depicting the Prophet Muhammad, a poll for the BBC suggests.

The survey also indicates most have no sympathy with those who want to fight against Western interests.


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The BBC have absolutely no backbone. They would rather protect Islam, AGAIN, instead of addressing the problem staring us all in the face. What is a huge story, that Muslims openly symapthise the murder of fellow Westerners, is turned into a positive poll that will be forgotten tomorrow. Peaceful Westerners exercising their right to free speech, in a country that embraces free speech.

The UK is not Saudi Arabia. If you want your religion to be protected so much that it is beyond satire, then move to the desert.

It is just lucky that other media outlets will actually put an honest stance on it, like the times.

Re: 27% of British Muslim sympathise with Charlie Hebdo kill

Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:18 pm

Disgraceful.

Re: 27% of British Muslim sympathise with Charlie Hebdo kill

Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:27 pm

Depressed Blue wrote:The BBC as usual, defending the indefesnible. Look how differently the two below describe the disgraceful opinions of some British Muslims:

The Times
More than a quarter of British Muslims feel some sympathy with the motives of the Charlie Hebdo killers, according to a poll.

The survey on behalf of BBC Radio 4’s Today programme found that 27 per cent felt they could sympathise with the motives of the gunmen who shot dead 12 people, including journalists and police officers, at a satirical magazine in Paris on January 7, compared to 62 per cent who could not.

The polling organisation ComRes questioned 1,000 UK Muslims in late January and early February on a range of political, cultural and faith issues.


BBC News
The majority of British Muslims oppose violence against people who publish images depicting the Prophet Muhammad, a poll for the BBC suggests.

The survey also indicates most have no sympathy with those who want to fight against Western interests.


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The BBC have absolutely no backbone. They would rather protect Islam, AGAIN, instead of addressing the problem staring us all in the face. What is a huge story, that Muslims openly symapthise the murder of fellow Westerners, is turned into a positive poll that will be forgotten tomorrow. Peaceful Westerners exercising their right to free speech, in a country that embraces free speech.

The UK is not Saudi Arabia. If you want your religion to be protected so much that it is beyond satire, then move to the desert.

It is just lucky that other media outlets will actually put an honest stance on it, like the times.


I will always look at the BBC to check on the narrative that they use but it is unfortunately all too predictable. If you extrapolate the numbers out based on a Muslim population of the UK being around 3M (this includes 2.7M from the 2011 census plus a few extra illegals thrown in tom simplify the maths) is just shy of a million people who sympathise with the Charlie Hebdo murderers. That's a lot of people who agree that freedom of speech does not extend as far as their own perpetual offence. Sure most of these million people are not about to pick up an AK47 but it begs the question, how many will. When the first Paris style attack comes to a street near you the week spineless BBC will undoubtedly tell you it is basically our own fault and that we need to stop offending peoples fairy tales. The way that Islam is pushing the agenda is in tandem with the likes of the BBC, weirdly the BBC believe they are on the side of Islam, Islam however are happy to play along until they chop off their heads.

Re: 27% of British Muslim sympathise with Charlie Hebdo kill

Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:03 pm

2.7million Muslims in the UK

1,000 people questioned.

0.03% Not a representative sample size.

Complete waste of time, unless you're looking for a reason to be petrified.

Re: 27% of British Muslim sympathise with Charlie Hebdo kill

Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:14 pm

That is the entire point of a poll.

Take from of it what you will.

Fact is, 270 people out of 1000 people sympathise with murderers.

270 normal Muslims.

Re: 27% of British Muslim sympathise with Charlie Hebdo kill

Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:20 pm

Depressed Blue wrote:That is the entire point of a poll.

Take from of it what you will.

Fact is, 270 people out of 1000 people sympathise with murderers.

270 normal Muslims.
agree ,there is a huge problem coming with the Muslim population of this country. you don't hear other religions kicking off like the Muslims enough is enough ,I hope to God that ukip get involved with a coalition come May time and the libs and far left Labour party are no where near government

Re: 27% of British Muslim sympathise with Charlie Hebdo kill

Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:24 pm

Pointless poll, sympathizing with motives is one thing, they haven't asked if they condone the murders, you would also have to ask at least 25,000 uk muslims several questions to get a real picture of this, this just stirs hatred of the stupid. :old:

Re: 27% of British Muslim sympathise with Charlie Hebdo kill

Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:29 pm

They aren't sympathising, they are telling the truth in a less glorified report. It isn't scaremongering which the times is.

That poll isn't representative of all muslims, but a tiny percentage. 0.03% as one poster has already mentioned.

To be credible a sample size needs to be much bigger. You have no idea who was even asked.

I think people on here should watch the documentary called "bitter Lake". It's currently available on Iplayer and shows how the UK and America play a role on the spread of terrorism and actually help fund it.

Re: 27% of British Muslim sympathise with Charlie Hebdo kill

Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:46 pm

I've seen bitter lake.

I thought it was okay.

Quite a sinister outlook on the modern world.

It would help if they decided to target one topic, rather than trying to string together barely related subjects. They might be making a point though. With that whole russian mysterious, smoke screen, 'no one knows whats going' idea. Maybe they were emphasising that.

George Osbourne is the anti christ as well apparently :lol:

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270 normal Muslims sympathise with the motives behind the attack. Which means they sympathise with violent action towards satirists. Which means they condone harm on another human being for 'insulting' their faith.

270 people out 1000 randomly chosen Muslims.

Were those 270 there by complete chance? Are they the only Muslims with the same opinion?.

Probably not.

Re: 27% of British Muslim sympathise with Charlie Hebdo kill

Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:09 pm

RFMH wrote:2.7million Muslims in the UK

1,000 people questioned.

0.03% Not a representative sample size.

Complete waste of time, unless you're looking for a reason to be petrified.


Nonsense. Using this logic then almost any research ever done based on sampling is a waste of time. Find me one research paper that uses an entire demographic to obtain data and I'll admit I'm wrong. The fact is 270 out of the 1000 Muslims questioned sympathised with the attacks. Even if you put measures in place to reflect a drop in that viewpoint when putting this into a graph for analysis, you'd still get a significant amount of Muslims sympathising.

Re: 27% of British Muslim sympathise with Charlie Hebdo kill

Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:22 pm

Even one sympathiser is one too many!

Re: 27% of British Muslim sympathise with Charlie Hebdo kill

Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:27 pm

blueminati wrote:
Using this logic then almost any research ever done based on sampling is a waste of time. Find me one research paper that uses an entire demographic to obtain data and I'll admit I'm wrong.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Do come back when you're not a disingenuous ass hole, thanks for trying though.

Re: 27% of British Muslim sympathise with Charlie Hebdo kill

Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:02 pm

blueminati wrote:
RFMH wrote:2.7million Muslims in the UK

1,000 people questioned.

0.03% Not a representative sample size.

Complete waste of time, unless you're looking for a reason to be petrified.


Nonsense. Using this logic then almost any research ever done based on sampling is a waste of time. Find me one research paper that uses an entire demographic to obtain data and I'll admit I'm wrong. The fact is 270 out of the 1000 Muslims questioned sympathised with the attacks. Even if you put measures in place to reflect a drop in that viewpoint when putting this into a graph for analysis, you'd still get a significant amount of Muslims sympathising.

You don't need to ask the whole population but if you're doing a study about British Muslims then you need to ask more than 1000 people if there's 3 million of them.

Re: 27% of British Muslim sympathise with Charlie Hebdo kill

Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:08 pm

2.7million Muslims in the UK

1,000 people questioned.

0.03% Not a representative sample size.

Complete waste of time, unless you're looking for a reason to be petrified.


And also you will probably the find the ones most likey to reply to the questions are the ones with the strongest opionions

Re: 27% of British Muslim sympathise with Charlie Hebdo kill

Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:33 pm

Anyone know how many American citizens support Obama's drone attacks on Pakistan, which have killed up to 800 innocent people, including many children. Anyone care?

Re: 27% of British Muslim sympathise with Charlie Hebdo kill

Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:38 pm

bluemun wrote:Anyone know how many American citizens support Obama's drone attacks on Pakistan, which have killed up to 800 innocent people, including many children. Anyone care?
we are British not American so who cares what America does

Re: 27% of British Muslim sympathise with Charlie Hebdo kill

Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:44 am

Loaded question to get a result like this... Sympathise tends to indicate the whole prophet issue, a better question would be "do you agree with what the gunmen did in Paris?". Statistically crap more people vote in polls on here.