' Cardiff City Lowest for 5 years ' Very Worrying

ITS VERY WORRYING.

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David Sugarman aka TLG

Cardiff City v Blackburn official attendance of 19,057 was the lowest crowd for a Championship match at the Cardiff City Stadium since Wednesday 24th March, 2010. The opposition on that occasion were Sheffield United. That game also ended in a 1-1 draw and was watched by a crowd of 18,715.

Reports from some of those at the game last night suggest that the actual gate at the CCS was far lower than the officially-announced figure. It's now clear that the return to a blue kit home kit has not had a particularly positive effect on attendances. Whether it will have a positive effect on season ticket renewals remains to be seen.

Whilst the return to our traditional colours was always an important facet in the equation of reclaiming our Club to suggest that alone would solve all ills was ludicrous. The appalling football and poor management decisions also need addressing before the Malky-era attendances will be seen. Furthermore no movement on the loan debt to equity and selling so much talent gave a profound negative feel to City which will take a long time to overcome. Personally, I feel that it will not be until Tan goes that real improvement will be seen.

StT.

I get a feeling that even with low attendances people feel obliged to go anyway because they have season tickets. next season when people dont renew we will see even lower attendances with Slade in charge with his brand of football IMO.

i agree 100% with steve on this annis it wont be until tan has gone that i and many lifeling fabs return to the ccs even tho wer regular on aways as you know the football lacks any kinda meaning altho positive vibes come from the last game its not slades fault he was appointed and outa his depth its tans fault for considering HIS PICK In the 1st place he can reduce st prices and put us back to blue but hes done far more damage than just a colour change and for those pro tan fans who still exist that say if it wasnt for his money (still unsecured ) then we wouldnt have a club well you know as well a i do if he goes in the summer and i think he will go the club will go spiraling into another portsmouth and its such a shame if he had left malky alone we were never in the bottom 3 granted the football was negative but look at it now its worse

Whilst the return to our traditional colours was always an important facet in the equation of reclaiming our Club to suggest that alone would solve all ills was ludicrous. The appalling football and poor management decisions also need addressing before the Malky-era attendances will be seen. Furthermore no movement on the loan debt to equity and selling so much talent gave a profound negative feel to City which will take a long time to overcome. Personally, I feel that it will not be until Tan goes that real improvement will be seen.

StT.

I agree with all of this.

ITS VERY WORRYING.

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David Sugarman aka TLG

Cardiff City v Blackburn official attendance of 19,057 was the lowest crowd for a Championship match at the Cardiff City Stadium since Wednesday 24th March, 2010. The opposition on that occasion were Sheffield United. That game also ended in a 1-1 draw and was watched by a crowd of 18,715.

Reports from some of those at the game last night suggest that the actual gate at the CCS was far lower than the officially-announced figure. It's now clear that the return to a blue kit home kit has not had a particularly positive effect on attendances. Whether it will have a positive effect on season ticket renewals remains to be seen.

Annis,

There are many issues relevant to each individual supporter/season ticket holder as to why they don't attend/won't renew.

The Club are failing to see this and as I have pointed out before it's going to come back and bite them in theA@@@

I don't know the answer, but am one of those who feel obliged to support the team. I have never felt like that and think that it's all been left to long in dealing with things and sorting the mess out. It's certainly not helped that we have been playing crap.

If we had been playing like we did against Blackburn for the first 30 odd games we would have been in the top six and not where we are.

Another wasted season, it's ok for the players/staff they still get their money whatever. Supporters these days want value for money

Since CCS opened each season has been eventful with near misses, promotion, a season with "The Stars" some good, occasionally exciting, football, until now. Casting my mind back to the darkest of days; though on reflection nowhere near as dark as current times, the true "hard core" of City fans dwindled down to around 4000. If the club continues to go nowhere, or heaven forbid, struggle, the thinning crowd will look daft dotted all round the stadium; at least in the old days we could "huddle" into groups!

The club can include every season ticket holder's seat in the attendance, it's been paid for whether present or not, the current season ticket sales reflected the "glory" of being in the PL and a real anticipation of returning, despite the "glimmer of hope" from the Blackburn match, even the most die hard fans are being tested to the point of breaking, even with survival this season, it is difficult to see anything but the same next season under the current regime, carry on like this and true attendances will soon fall below 10,000.

Lets hope Paul Trollope's arrival heralds the start of better times.

ITS VERY WORRYING.

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David Sugarman aka TLG

Cardiff City v Blackburn official attendance of 19,057 was the lowest crowd for a Championship match at the Cardiff City Stadium since Wednesday 24th March, 2010. The opposition on that occasion were Sheffield United. That game also ended in a 1-1 draw and was watched by a crowd of 18,715.

Reports from some of those at the game last night suggest that the actual gate at the CCS was far lower than the officially-announced figure. It's now clear that the return to a blue kit home kit has not had a particularly positive effect on attendances. Whether it will have a positive effect on season ticket renewals remains to be seen.

The shirt colour not important to 90% of your average fans I would say, yes they would prefer blue, but performances and ambition of the club are more important to your average fan. Although many would have tried to use it as an excuse not to renew.

If we were playing well and being Managed by Pullis, and top of the League we would sell out or be near sell out for most games, and season tickets would double as the glory hunter fans would want a premiership season ticket.

Slade as Manager will have a much bigger affect on season ticket renewals than the colour of the shirt, that is obvious.
I reckon if someone like Warnock or Atkins were appointed that would make a nig difference.

The problem is the fans have distanced themselves from the club due to the rebrand, bad management and appalling, dire football! Once we start playing better it will kick start the fan base again I'm sure of it

The problem is the fans have distanced themselves from the club due to the rebrand, bad management and appalling, dire football! Once we start playing better it will kick start the fan base again I'm sure of it

Agree with this

The plastics have all gone, the football has been dire and a mid to lower table position. Plus an unpopular choice of manager, shopping in the lower leagues compared to previous signings, and an owner .... well we all know about him!
There was a lot of expectation of an instant return to the premier league too .... a distant memory now.
So lower attendances can be expected. I reckon there was 14000 tops on tuesday.

Most fans didn't give a Shit about the colour we played in ,they wanted to see a successful team ,if we're playing when the fans will come back

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David Sugarman aka TLG

Cardiff City v Blackburn official attendance of 19,057 was the lowest crowd for a Championship match at the Cardiff City Stadium since Wednesday 24th March, 2010. The opposition on that occasion were Sheffield United. That game also ended in a 1-1 draw and was watched by a crowd of 18,715.

Reports from some of those at the game last night suggest that the actual gate at the CCS was far lower than the officially-announced figure. It's now clear that the return to a blue kit home kit has not had a particularly positive effect on attendances. Whether it will have a positive effect on season ticket renewals remains to be seen.

I would suggest that a better example of how the fans reacted to the change back to Blue was at the first home game that the team returned to Blue, which was the Fulham game, which had an attendance of 22000 and looked not that far short of it in the ground The game before that saw us losing 4-2 to Watford at home, If we had remained in Red, I would argue that the Fulham game would have attracted 8000 less fans, actually at the game, so that to me is a far better barometer of how much the colour meant to the fans

I am convinced that with the correct building blocks in place the crowds will return, this started with the fundamental one of returning our true identity, it has carried on with reducing or freezing prices, the next step is to rebuild the squad and a footballing philosophy, under Slade or more realistically under a better, more dynamic manager in tandem with this are that the club carry on a dialogue with supporters groups to improve that match day experience. If all these are done correctly then the support will return and bigger than before

Rubbish we averaged around the 21,000 mark before the change back to blue ok not all turned up but still alot more than now
added around 1500 for the game after the change and now downwards because the football has been shit
a lot of fans promised miracles if we were changed back to blue but have showed there true colours since and now are whinging that shit football is the case etc
crap management
TAN etc but that was the case before the change back

and now to top it all tickets are too expensive all excuses
the truth is we all know we will not sell out next season unless we are top and going up so do not have to buy a season ticket
true football fans??

If we were in the top like derby boro and Bournemouth the attendances would be much better as we all know . If we had drawn man u Liverpool arsenal in the fa cup we would be arguing over tickets .... its the football that was dire that people stopped coming to see a few stopped just because we were relegated from the prem others stopped because of the re brand but the bulk have stopped because of the poor performances

i agree 100% with steve on this annis it wont be until tan has gone that i and many lifeling fabs return to the ccs even tho wer regular on aways as you know the football lacks any kinda meaning altho positive vibes come from the last game its not slades fault he was appointed and outa his depth its tans fault for considering HIS PICK In the 1st place he can reduce st prices and put us back to blue but hes done far more damage than just a colour change and for those pro tan fans who still exist that say if it wasnt for his money (still unsecured ) then we wouldnt have a club well you know as well a i do if he goes in the summer and i think he will go the club will go spiraling into another portsmouth and its such a shame if he had left malky alone we were never in the bottom 3 granted the football was negative but look at it now its worse

Paul, Steve talks a lot of sense in his post and I can relate to it,Tan has to go

Most fans didn't give a Shit about the colour we played in ,they wanted to see a successful team ,if we're playing when the fans will come back

Wez, 100% it mattered to me and I stated that from day one,but your right a lot chose glory over our identity.

All the above reasons are true, personally it's the expensive gate prices and the dire football. End result not value for money, not enjoyable

Some of the reasons for low attendances and non-renewal of season tickets could be:

The lack of quality football
The position in the league
Affordability
A hangover from the rebrand
Lack of input from fans at board level
Players' seeming lack of motivation or fitness
Constant negative publicity linked to the club

Oh, and I forgot, excuses from fair-weather fans. As far as proper, stalwart supporters are concerned, none of the above matter and they will continue to be there. The claims of some that the club has 1 million potential fans are laughable but go up to PL and the place will be full again. Simples.

The truth is all clubs next season will see drop in season ticket sales! How many depends on the club, some will be steady but very thew! As for us well no surprise at massive drop off it will take a shift in fortunes to see upsurge, economic climate is biggest factor for everyone.

The truth is all clubs next season will see drop in season ticket sales! How many depends on the club, some will be steady but very thew! As for us well no surprise at massive drop off it will take a shift in fortunes to see upsurge, economic climate is biggest factor for everyone.

Allan, let's not beat about the bush,let's be straight to the point,we will have the biggest drop in the Leagues and that to me is very very worrying.

And not all clubs will see a drop.

The truth is all clubs next season will see drop in season ticket sales! How many depends on the club, some will be steady but very thew! As for us well no surprise at massive drop off it will take a shift in fortunes to see upsurge, economic climate is biggest factor for everyone.

Allan, let's not beat about the bush,let's be straight to the point,we will have the biggest drop in the Leagues and that to me is very very worrying.

And not all clubs will see a drop.

Like said Annis no surprise! After all the reason for initial upturn was success and expectations 4yrs ago, now not successful it will drop rapidly until we are more successful on pitch, that means better football and being near top? So if we get 12k by start season we would have done well and that means we have kept the loyal fan base, and can build again. as for other clubs bet only about 4 in champ if that! will keep or improve on this season #

thing is there was no contract on the table stating fans have to return if we go back blue... we should have gone back blue as standard, should not have gone red in the 1st place but thats been done and dusted

i for 1 have waited for the day to return to blue... but i still cant go down ccs no matter how shit we are still playing i simply cant afford to throw good money i could ba buying food and paying bills for my family... simple as

they could be in blue with gold leaf thread in the kit i still cant afford to attend

cant afford to buy next seasons season ticket either and im not the only one

folks are hard up, i managed to scrape the money together before, now ive lost all enthusiasm to raise the spare cash to attend

so in the meantime they could change back to red and back to blue again dont mean nothing i still cant afford to go

It is worrying cos what's happened to these thousands of people that would return if we went back to blue, just more bullshit. The truth is it don't matter what colour shirt the team wears if the footies shit and the team is mid table crowds are gonna fall, simple truth for Cardiff City.

annis your being very negative recently.
look on the bright side. real fans will allways be there. if plastics want to leave then so be it. currently 16000 sold so not to bad. obviously we will expect a bigger drop due to price freeze ending and the state of the team