holocaust MK2?

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its fair to say i wouldn't want to be a jew living in europe after all the recent terror attacks. its not just attacks though, there is widespread anti semitism around europe, disguised as being anti-israel. graves being desecrated, and people who publicly identify as being jews are leaving europe en masse.

where do the jews have to escape intolerance and hatred? that is why there must be a state of israel.

I really can't understand the hatred of the Jews around the world. They've been persecuted for thousands of years. I don't even think the people who hate them no the reason why they hate them. It just seems to me people hate the Jews for no other reason than its the excepted way of thinking

People like George Galloway peddling hatred.

He claims that his decision to choose that conflict to campaign against is due to it being one of the worst atrocities on our planet. Well, it isn't, is it?. It is so talked about as it involves Jews. And some pathetic belief that muslims are always the victims.

Saying Zionism is the root of all evil, when he openly backs people jihadists in Lebanon that are after the total destruction of anything non-Muslim.

He is a piece of shit.

Maybe he would consider campaigning for the Christians that are massacred in the middle east by the thousand? And Africa where multiple times more people are killed than than in Palestine.Thought not.

Jews are mocked around europe whereas Muslims are protected. Until recently. AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED THEN.

At last some perceptive posts on Israel.

Sadly there will be another holocaust in Europe as satan knows that if he rids the world of Israel and the Jews then Christ will not be able to return to earth. However Christ will return, Scripture states it, so the nation of Israel and the Jews will continue, though things will get worse before it gets better.

StT.

Israel will wipe their enemies out and take everyone down with them before they ever let what hapenned to the Jews in world war 2, happen again. They are a different animal these days. They have the means to pull the plug on all of us. One of the best equipped and trained forces on the planet "not to mention their nuclear capabilities". They also have a massive hold on powerful nations like america. its unwise to poke them with a stick to much. Centuries of persecution have instilled a hardwired defensive mindset of."You f**k with us we will make you pay" even if it means everyone suffers. And in a way, I don't blame them for having that mentality

The attacks against Jews who do not preach Zionism are uncalled for. However, people like Benjamin Netanyahu are disgraceful scumbags. Zionism is a hypocritical ideology and as bad as Jihadism and Nazism. Whether the ideology is political or religious it doesn't matter. The media then lambasts anyone who criticises Zionism as an anti-semite because its fine to criticise extremist Islam in abundance but the moment you do it about Zionism all hell breaks lose. Sorry, the Holocaust was disgusting but that does not give disgusting Zionists extra privileges today. Should the average Jew be persecuted when they want to live peacefully in Europe? No, just as the average Muslim or Catholic shouldn't either.

As for Israel, whilst its obvious a multi state solution is not going to work as neither side wants it really, that does not give Israel the right after every conflict to continue their expansionist policy and swallow up the land of the Palestinians. You as Welsh people of all should respect that. Just remember, it wasn't that long ago when Welsh people were fighting for their lives, their identity, their land and their families. Sorry, but anyone supporting the step by step ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people is a disgrace quite frankly.

The attacks against Jews who do not preach Zionism are uncalled for. However, people like Benjamin Netanyahu are disgraceful scumbags. Zionism is a hypocritical ideology and as bad as Jihadism and Nazism. Whether the ideology is political or religious it doesn't matter. The media then lambasts anyone who criticises Zionism as an anti-semite because its fine to criticise extremist Islam in abundance but the moment you do it about Zionism all hell breaks lose. Sorry, the Holocaust was disgusting but that does not give disgusting Zionists extra privileges today. Should the average Jew be persecuted when they want to live peacefully in Europe? No, just as the average Muslim or Catholic shouldn't either.

As for Israel, whilst its obvious a multi state solution is not going to work as neither side wants it really, that does not give Israel the right after every conflict to continue their expansionist policy and swallow up the land of the Palestinians. You as Welsh people of all should respect that. Just remember, it wasn't that long ago when Welsh people were fighting for their lives, their identity, their land and their families. Sorry, but anyone supporting the step by step ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people is a disgrace quite frankly.

You sir, should take a bow. That was the perfect post for this topic and I was going to make a post but there is absolutely no need.

What I will say though, if religion wasn't INVENTED the world wouldn't be as bad as it is now.

I don't blame them for having that mentality

I do. Being bullied does not justify becoming the bully. That mindset is childish at best. The Zionists like Benjamin Netanyahu are an absolute disgrace and I feel proud to be British when a civilised Jew in the UK steps up and speaks out against this disgraceful idiot and other Zionists like him.

I don't blame them for having that mentality

I do. Being bullied does not justify becoming the bully. That mindset is childish at best. The Zionists like Benjamin Netanyahu are an absolute disgrace and I feel proud to be British when a civilised Jew in the UK steps up and speaks out against this disgraceful idiot and other Zionists like him.

Careful now, or you'll be branded an anti Semite.

I don't blame them for having that mentality

I do. Being bullied does not justify becoming the bully. That mindset is childish at best. The Zionists like Benjamin Netanyahu are an absolute disgrace and I feel proud to be British when a civilised Jew in the UK steps up and speaks out against this disgraceful idiot and other Zionists like him.

Careful now, or you'll be branded an anti Semite.

Couldn't care less. I will speak my mind openly. I'm not a sheep that falls in line like an indoctrinated sheep the government wants us to come so that we don't question their next move. As Orwell envisioned, rather than predicted, they want us to fall in line peacefully as then there is no rise up against them. The police do not need to be armed in this country because there is very little resistance. People have fallen in line. I won't ever succumb to political correctness.

As for the liberals on here who will use terms like antisemite, well thats just what liberals do. Liberals cant argue rationally so they would rather brand you x, x being whatever slur they can conjure up, a variable, and then put the onus on you to defend yourself against that claim in an attempt to discredit you. Ironically, they're also too stupid to see the hypocrisy in preaching for freedom of speech as a liberal right whilst persecuting those who think different and eventually this leads to people second judging themselves rather than saying what they truly feel, essentially thought crime. All of this is done by ardent liberals in an attempt to stifle debate.

I don't blame them for having that mentality

I do. Being bullied does not justify becoming the bully. That mindset is childish at best. The Zionists like Benjamin Netanyahu are an absolute disgrace and I feel proud to be British when a civilised Jew in the UK steps up and speaks out against this disgraceful idiot and other Zionists like him.

Careful now, or you'll be branded an anti Semite.

By who? I'm neither for or against israel. I'm just giving my observation. And what could end up happening if Israel feel like they are being backed into a corner to much. It might be a childish mindset, but this is the world we live in. The human race has a childish mindset full stop. We seem hell bent on coursing our own destruction. Everywhere you look, there is absolute chaos, and everyday it seems to be getting worse. We can all point and blame Israel for all their faults, but in my opinion we are all as bad as one another. After world war 2, you'd think we'd have learned from our mistakes.

It might be a childish mindset, but this is the world we live in. The human race has a childish mindset full stop. We seem hell bent on coursing our own destruction. Everywhere you look, there is absolute chaos, and everyday it seems to be getting worse.

Cant argue with any of that. Seems strongly on point.

The reason why there is still war and chaos is because I don't believe we've fully evolved from the time where we were tribal. We are still tribal just more advanced and a bit more caring, just a bit. I actually give the human race another 500 years before we are wiped off and hopefully the earth can repair itself and nature can take over until the next top predator takes the reigns.

i mention the state of israel in my post because it is extremely important for the jews to have a haven from the intolerance towards them which is getting worse and worse, unchecked.

with the gradual islamisation of parts of europe, sadly i think intolerance will thrive and attacks on the remaining jews and their places of worship will be common.

netanyahu is capitalising on the anti semitism of the french and other european states to encourage the jews to move to the one of the few places they can be truly confident that they will not be persecuted for their religion. who would have thought after the horrors of WW2 that such persecution would once be back on the agenda? disgusting.

i mention the state of israel in my post because it is extremely important for the jews to have a haven from the intolerance towards them which is getting worse and worse, unchecked.

with the gradual islamisation of parts of europe, sadly i think intolerance will thrive and attacks on the remaining jews and their places of worship will be common.

netanyahu is capitalising on the anti semitism of the french and other european states to encourage the jews to move to the one of the few places they can be truly confident that they will not be persecuted for their religion. who would have thought after the horrors of WW2 that such persecution would once be back on the agenda? disgusting.

Sorry, but that a false dichotomy. Many Jews are being persecuted because of the crap moron Zionists like Netanyahu preach in the same way many Muslims get persecuted in this country for the actions of a minority of extremists. Also, many Jews are persecuted because our governments are gutless when it comes to Israel and standing up to them over what they're doing but are more than happy to condemn the hell out of Islamic nations or even worse intervene and slaughter many Muslim families like they're nothing more than characters in a video game. Netanyahu knows by doing what hes doing and preaching the Zionist crap that antisemitism will rise in EU in reaction to it and Jews will flee to Israel, or home, as that moron likes to call it. Its all manipulation on his part. The guy is utter scum.

I don't blame them for having that mentality

I do. Being bullied does not justify becoming the bully. That mindset is childish at best. The Zionists like Benjamin Netanyahu are an absolute disgrace and I feel proud to be British when a civilised Jew in the UK steps up and speaks out against this disgraceful idiot and other Zionists like him.

Careful now, or you'll be branded an anti Semite.

Couldn't care less. I will speak my mind openly. I'm not a sheep that falls in line like an indoctrinated sheep the government wants us to come so that we don't question their next move. As Orwell envisioned, rather than predicted, they want us to fall in line peacefully as then there is no rise up against them. The police do not need to be armed in this country because there is very little resistance. People have fallen in line. I won't ever succumb to political correctness.

As for the liberals on here who will use terms like antisemite, well thats just what liberals do. Liberals cant argue rationally so they would rather brand you x, x being whatever slur they can conjure up, a variable, and then put the onus on you to defend yourself against that claim in an attempt to discredit you. Ironically, they're also too stupid to see the hypocrisy in preaching for freedom of speech as a liberal right whilst persecuting those who think different and eventually this leads to people second judging themselves rather than saying what they truly feel, essentially thought crime. All of this is done by ardent liberals in an attempt to stifle debate.

You are th biggest sheep out there. You are a dangerous person, someone who reads 1% on a topic and preaches 100% knowledge.
It was only about a year ago you were telling everyone how great Germany was, how great Dortmund are and how you couldn't wait to move to Germany and leave this nation behind. I assume you are actually living in wales

You are th biggest sheep out there. You are a dangerous person, someone who reads 1% on a topic and preaches 100% knowledge.

This is just bullshit rhetoric on your behalf. I read all sides of the argument, those who know me well on here will know that I love to play devils advocate by my own admission. They will hold that to be the truth. I love to listen to all sides of the argument, explore all possible hypothetical outcomes and come to a suitable prognosis based on findings. If you do not look at all sides of the argument then you cant do such. If I was someone who read 1% of the argument then I'd be persecuting the average Jewish person as well as Zionists but I do not, because I'm not a one sided moron like those who do persecute Jews.

Now are you going to put together any coherent argument in terms of debating the points or just going to return to more ad hominem attacks that undermine you totally and portray you as the uneducated pseudo-intellectual we all know you are?

It was only about a year ago you were telling everyone how great Germany was, how great Dortmund are and how you couldn't wait to move to Germany and leave this nation behind.

I'm emigrating in roughly 1 1/2 months as I'm sure you'll be glad to find out and still, I cant wait to leave the UK behind for many reasons.

I assume you are actually living in wales

You assume wrong as usual.

When, if ever, did Palestine exist as a nation................and why don't the other countries in the area provide land for them to live on?

the most powerful religion in the world, it owns the media, runs the USA, which in turn owns Israel (as such), there must be a reason for the anti jewish sentiment, it is global domination they desire, read it, its all in the protocols of the elders of zion