Offside - interfering with play

Anyone who is watching the Preston v Man Utd game, will have just seen Utd equalise, Rooney was clearly in an offside position (as the rules were when we were kids ) but how can a player not be interfering with play when he is standing in the six yard box and he is the furthest player up field bar the opposition keeper.

This is one law of the game that I strongly disagree with.

Surely he is interfering with play when he is that close to the keeper.

From the rule book...he's not interfering with play by the letter of the law, although I agree it feels he is by standing where he was!

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Agree. We should have the old interpretation of the rule brought back. You are either offside or you are onside.

Rooney was clearly dividing the attention of the keeper. What's more, he had to jump back to avoid contact, which probably means he was in the path of the ball and could have deflected it. The keeper had to notice all these things in a split-second. Almost impossible.

In the spirit of the game, Rooney shouldn't be just hanging about in an off-side position either.

However, by the letter of the law, the goal should stand. Hmmm.

Isn't it the player as to be inpeading goalie from seeing ball? And Not in his eye sight as stated by pundits? Because technically any player in pen area would be interfering with goalie?

Isn't it the player as to be inpeading goalie from seeing ball? And Not in his eye sight as stated by pundits? Because technically any player in pen area would be interfering with goalie?

To be honest Allan, my view has always been that if a player is NOT interfering with play, then what the hell is he doing on the pitch

Rooney is no where near in the way of the goal keepers sight

Didn't touch the ball so it's nothing wrong with it , if he was there or wasn't wouldn't of made a difference would of gone In and didn't effect keeper , keeper looked for excuse after it had been given

With the ball being played in the general direction of Rooney he HAS TO BE offside.

If not there should be more set pieces with attacking players standing in offside positions in front of goal. All they need to do is move as the ball is shot towards them.

Isn't it the player as to be inpeading goalie from seeing ball? And Not in his eye sight as stated by pundits? Because technically any player in pen area would be interfering with goalie?

To be honest Allan, my view has always been that if a player is NOT interfering with play, then what the hell is he doing on the pitch

Yes was always the case carl how times have changed?

With the ball being played in the general direction of Rooney he HAS TO BE offside.

If not there should be more set pieces with attacking players standing in offside positions in front of goal. All they need to do is move as the ball is shot towards them.

Slight difference free kick/corners the ball is dead until touched, if player is in offside position at that point he is offside! In Open play it's open to interpretation unfortunately as Preston discovered! How many times do you see lino flag ofside from goal kick because player was in offside position when ball kicked but moved on side to get ball? Happens all time, shows what a mess law is!

So, when a team has a free kick in a goal scoring position, what is to stop an attacker being in front of the goalkeeper in an "non interfering way"

I'm more concerned about his blatant dive and how not one person in the studio bar the ex Preston player would admit their beloved England hero was a f*cking cheat just like the foreigners they slate every week.

Could someone explain to Pembroke Allen that you can't be offside directly from a corner or goal kick.

Could someone explain to Pembroke Allen that you can't be offside directly from a corner or goal kick.

Rat
If you are standing in offside position no matter where you are in oposition half you are offside if you attempt to play the ball ! that includes from corner or goal kick! Only exception of course is throw in!

Anyone who is watching the Preston v Man Utd game, will have just seen Utd equalise, Rooney was clearly in an offside position (as the rules were when we were kids ) but how can a player not be interfering with play when he is standing in the six yard box and he is the furthest player up field bar the opposition keeper.

This is one law of the game that I strongly disagree with.

Surely he is interfering with play when he is that close to the keeper.

To me he was offside

The goal stopped as he thought he was going to touch it

Not surprised manu got away with it they always do

Could someone explain to Pembroke Allen that you can't be offside directly from a corner or goal kick.

Rat
If you are standing in offside position no matter where you are in oposition half you are offside if you attempt to play the ball ! that includes from corner or goal kick! Only exception of course is throw in!

It seems obvious that you do not understand Law 11. You cannot be offside from a throw in, goal kick or a corner .

Always remember ' Closer to the goal line than the ball and the second last defender'


Chris

Vote for Figo. He proposes changing this rule if he gets elected. Offside is offside according to him, interfering or not.

Anyone who is watching the Preston v Man Utd game, will have just seen Utd equalise, Rooney was clearly in an offside position (as the rules were when we were kids ) but how can a player not be interfering with play when he is standing in the six yard box and he is the furthest player up field bar the opposition keeper.

This is one law of the game that I strongly disagree with.

Surely he is interfering with play when he is that close to the keeper.

Totally agree with this
Plus for me another rule, handball should handball. Accidental,hands in a normal place etc etc...Takes a lot of pressure off the refs.

A few points here .

There are no rules in football only laws .


In the laws of the game, Law 11 is the least written because it is so easy to implement as a qualified referee . With respect to the average supporter they get confused with the offside law because they do not understand it.

Rooney was not in the line of the keeper and therefore cannot be given offside as he also did not play the ball .
You cannot go back to the 80s where if a player is standing 30 yards away and not involved in play gets penalised for being offside .
The current offside law has speeded the game up and that and the intentional back pass is the other law which has made the game a lot better .

Finally , you simply cannot have every handball an offence . Does that mean if I'm trying to protect my face from a shot with my hands I would be penalised ?
Also can you imagine players a short range aiming for opponents hands just to buy a free kick or even a penalty ?

What don't the opposition just do what we all did as kids to someone like Rooney.........

Call him a goal hanger in a huff grab the ball and walk home, this should nip it in the bud

A few points here .

There are no rules in football only laws .


In the laws of the game, Law 11 is the least written because it is so easy to implement as a qualified referee . With respect to the average supporter they get confused with the offside law because they do not understand it.

Rooney was not in the line of the keeper and therefore cannot be given offside as he also did not play the ball .
You cannot go back to the 80s where if a player is standing 30 yards away and not involved in play gets penalised for being offside .
The current offside law has speeded the game up and that and the intentional back pass is the other law which has made the game a lot better .

Finally , you simply cannot have every handball an offence . Does that mean if I'm trying to protect my face from a shot with my hands I would be penalised ?
Also can you imagine players a short range aiming for opponents hands just to buy a free kick or even a penalty ?

If you lift your hands to protect your face or any other part of your body then it's a deliberate movement and should be punished.

Haven't seen the goal in question so won't comment.

Same as the handball rule. Its so inconsistent.

If your in the box youre interfering with play because the goalkeeper is having to be aware of your presence.

99.9% of qualified referees would not penalise a player for protecting his face with his hands with the ball travelling at high speed .

For a player to be 'interfering with play ' the player must do one of three things

Play the ball
Interfering with an opponent
Gaining advantage for being in an offside position .

99.9% of qualified referees would not penalise a player for protecting his face with his hands with the ball travelling at high speed .

For a player to be 'interfering with play ' the player must do one of three things

Play the ball
Interfering with an opponent
Gaining advantage for being in an offside position .

Jumping for a header and it hits an arm often results in handball. Also during tackles or blocking crosses the ball hits outstretched arms and penalties are some times given sometimes not.

On offsides law for advantage - If the goalkeeper is unsighted or is even just put off by someone in front of him that is an advantage for the attacker imo.

You can tell im part of the defenders union

99.9% of qualified referees would not penalise a player for protecting his face with his hands with the ball travelling at high speed .

For a player to be 'interfering with play ' the player must do one of three things

Play the ball
Interfering with an opponent
Gaining advantage for being in an offside position .

I'll gladly be the .1%
It's a deliberate movement of the hand to stop the ball.

You wouldn't last 5 minutes on the Parks .

You wouldn't last 5 minutes on the Parks .

I'm doing ok so far, thanks all the same.

Any referee of a decent standard would definitely not penalise a player for handball for protecting his face as those circumstances are not deliberate .

Any referee of a decent standard would definitely not penalise a player for handball for protecting his face as those circumstances are not deliberate .

It clearly is deliberate. He should man up and take one for the team.
As I said, I'm doing ok up here so I'll settle for that.