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ISIS WTF

Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:41 pm

They have recently released a video showing the beheadings of around 21 Catholic Egyptians.
And they have posted a image of about 20/30 children in a cage in Orange jumpsuits and a naked flame in the forefront of the image.

What happens in the end? How do we fix this?

Re: ISIS WTF

Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:58 pm

AJ1927 wrote:They have recently released a video showing the beheadings of around 21 Catholic Egyptians.
And they have posted a image of about 20/30 children in a cage in Orange jumpsuits and a naked flame in the forefront of the image.

What happens in the end? How do we fix this?



Alas, if I had the answer to this madness I would be rich enough to buy the club.

These extremists don't value all life as precious, even their own lives are currency to be exchanged for a perverse martyrdom.

I just hope that there is enough sanity to overcome it permanently.

Re: ISIS WTF

Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:07 am

And if you listen to some anti-western viewpoints these bastards don't even exist!!! Can you imagine Miliband in charge of British interests against the likes of ISiS ?

Re: ISIS WTF

Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:39 am

isis are vermin that need to be exterminated

Re: ISIS WTF

Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:16 am

Woodville Willie wrote:
AJ1927 wrote:They have recently released a video showing the beheadings of around 21 Catholic Egyptians.
And they have posted a image of about 20/30 children in a cage in Orange jumpsuits and a naked flame in the forefront of the image.

What happens in the end? How do we fix this?



Alas, if I had the answer to this madness I would be rich enough to buy the club.

These extremists don't value all life as precious, even their own lives are currency to be exchanged for a perverse martyrdom.

I just hope that there is enough sanity to overcome it permanently.

a very simple but very accurate answer..well put.... :ayatollah:

Re: ISIS WTF

Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:19 pm

It really is brutal and the sooner America and Britain realise that air strikes alone will not rid the world of Islamic State the better.

Although the part about the children in the cage isn't ISIS, it's a stunt by Syrian activists protesting about the killing of children by al-Assad

Only way I can see it working is by putting boots back on the ground in Iraq, and also in Syria

Re: ISIS WTF

Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:25 pm

Daniel_PT_blues wrote:It really is brutal and the sooner America and Britain realise that air strikes alone will not rid the world of Islamic State the better.

Although the part about the children in the cage isn't ISIS, it's a stunt by Syrian activists protesting about the killing of children by al-Assad

Only way I can see it working is by putting boots back on the ground in Iraq, and also in Syria


Correct but don't forget the sympathisers in Britain ,We need to exterminate them also. :thumbright: And any apologists that live in Britain need to go/die. Simples :thumbup:

Re: ISIS WTF

Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:14 pm

Its not all bad news chaps. the SAS are having an absolute ball over there with lightning raids, killing hundreds of isis fighters already. They really are enjoying themselves :ayatollah: in my humble opinion, I think we should consentrate more on the threat in the UK from Muslims islamists whatever they are called, in this country, and leave the middle east shit for middle east country's to sort out. Country's like Jordan Saudi arabia ect have enough firepower to sort this shit out themselves. I'd prefer us to concentrate on the home front a bit more... The immediate threat to us. And whipe our hands with the middle east crap. We are just making it worse by constantly meddling. We should look no further than Europe IMO. Because that's where the real threat to us is. Let them fuking kill each other over there. It will eventually fizzle out.

Re: ISIS WTF

Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:30 pm

This is horrible.

Re: ISIS WTF

Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:16 pm

Totally agree with previous poster, we need to get rid of the sympathisers in the uk. The mosque leaders just aren't doing enough to combat the rot within their own walls

Re: ISIS WTF

Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:38 pm

Military Junta wrote:And if you listen to some anti-western viewpoints these bastards don't even exist!!! Can you imagine Miliband in charge of British interests against the likes of ISiS ?


Would be possibly better than Cameron in my opinion.
Let's just hope the tory / Ukip vote gets split and leaves Labour back in ;)

Re: ISIS WTF

Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:11 pm

Neath Bluebird wrote:
Military Junta wrote:And if you listen to some anti-western viewpoints these bastards don't even exist!!! Can you imagine Miliband in charge of British interests against the likes of ISiS ?


Would be possibly better than Cameron in my opinion.
Let's just hope the tory / Ukip vote gets split and leaves Labour back in ;)

Hmmm Labour. The Party who started the Iraq war with lies. Which then led to the shit that the region is now in. Labour the Party full of Peadophile lovers who had to sack an entire council as it knowingly let children be raped. Labour the Party who has let in mass immigration just so it can count on there vote. Labour willing to join with the IRA just so it can get in power. Labour rotten to the core. Now please don't get me started on that wanker Cameron and the Tories the gutless bunch of twats. Anyway peace and love.

Re: ISIS WTF

Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:17 pm

Worlds gone f*cking mad!.

As soon as something bad happens we lose resources or clean radiation free water it will be like the roman empire but 100 times
worse with guns bombs and warfare

Re: ISIS WTF

Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:52 pm

Xcasual wrote:
Daniel_PT_blues wrote:It really is brutal and the sooner America and Britain realise that air strikes alone will not rid the world of Islamic State the better.

Although the part about the children in the cage isn't ISIS, it's a stunt by Syrian activists protesting about the killing of children by al-Assad

Only way I can see it working is by putting boots back on the ground in Iraq, and also in Syria


Correct but don't forget the sympathisers in Britain ,We need to exterminate them also. :thumbright: And any apologists that live in Britain need to go/die. Simples :thumbup:


Agreed mate :thumbup:

Re: ISIS WTF

Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:33 pm

The Coptic Christians murdered by IS were labourers from poor villages in Egypt. There were Christians in North Africa, ( Egypt and Libya), for centuries, before Islam even existed. This latest barbarity is, frankly, beyond belief. Thankfully, the current Egyptian government is prepared to support all its people, Muslim and Christian. The Egyptian Air Force has carried out air strikes on IS targets inside Libya. Good luck to them!

Re: ISIS WTF

Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:00 pm

ISIS are the scum of the Earth, as far as I'm concerned. But sadly (like always) history repeats itself...

- Saddam Hussein received massive help by the USA to fight the US' fierce enemy Iran... Too bad Iraq later attacked Kuwait, to get the oil, that the US promised them if they should defeat Iran... Saddam (who was a ruthless dictator, no doubt) became the enemy, as Bush Jr. was looking for a scapregoat.
- Bin Laden and his lot was heavily armed and supported by Saudi-Arabia and it's allie, the United States...to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the days, who later switched to fight in Bosnia and other conflicts with a Muslim connection. They became terrorists, when they turned against the West... they were terrorists before, but noone called them that, as they were fight the common enemy...
- Now ISIS: financially backed and armed by Saudi-Arabia, trained by the US to fight again Assad and his regime. Not so long ago, they were talking about the West actively supporting the rebel groups in Syria (and Lybia)...
The majority of the ISIS leadership were imprisoned in Iraq by the Americans, where they organised themselves and planned their strategy. Owngoal if you ask me...

Do we need to fight ISIS to the core and wipe em off the planet? Of course we do... BUT the west needs to stop interfering in this region, with their dirty politics they make things far worse...

Best example: Ukraine... the USA wants to supply the Ukraine with weapons... as if that would STOP the conflict. What that region needs is talks to de-eskalate, not weapons to escalate and worsen the situation.

Anyhow, feck the politics...

Heard of a group called ANONYMOUS? They are a loose collectice of hackers, hacktivists, activists ect, who once fought Scientology (and still do). The Vendetta mask is their symbol, they need to protect their identity, for obvious reasons...
They are now actively fighting ISIS... online!
So far, they hacked and destroyed over 3000 ISIS websites, email, Twitter, Facebook accounts. They published lists where they proved they hacked and destroyed ISIS related online accounts.
They also published video messages directed to ISIS, in case you haven't seen them, here are 2 links...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPE_sRhZp6M

in their last one, they call on Twitter and governments to fight ISIS online...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1poslTJnejY

Re: ISIS WTF

Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:21 am

Every right thinking person wants to see IS destroyed as quickly as possible.

Their destruction has to come from other Middle Eastern countries though. Western intervention in that region ALWAYS creates more problems. The UK and US only ever get involved in that part of the globe to make rich western shareholders in the oil industry even wealthier.

I've read a few people suggest that more western air strikes and 'boots on the ground' will eliminate IS. Good luck with that! You can't simply destroy a warped ideology with bullets and bombs. Does anyone seriously think that impressionable young Muslim men and women living in the West won't be more of a threat to all of us if their 'brothers and sisters' are killed as martyrs?

We need to face facts that continuing with the same old failed Western tactics in the Middle East is madness and just endangers British lives at home and abroad.

There is also, of course, lots of hypocrisy surrounding our relationship with Saudi Arabia - a country that has beheaded more people than IS could dream of. Britain and the US also need to think long and hard about their role as chief apologists for Zionism and the related Israeli violence that goes with it.

Yep, IS are murderous bastards who need destroying by other Middle East countries but our own foreign policy in that part of the world is riddled with hypocrisy driven by balance sheet greed and we are all paying for that.

Re: ISIS WTF

Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:09 pm

alfie sherwood wrote:Every right thinking person wants to see IS destroyed as quickly as possible.

Their destruction has to come from other Middle Eastern countries though. Western intervention in that region ALWAYS creates more problems. The UK and US only ever get involved in that part of the globe to make rich western shareholders in the oil industry even wealthier.

I've read a few people suggest that more western air strikes and 'boots on the ground' will eliminate IS. Good luck with that! You can't simply destroy a warped ideology with bullets and bombs. Does anyone seriously think that impressionable young Muslim men and women living in the West won't be more of a threat to all of us if their 'brothers and sisters' are killed as martyrs?

We need to face facts that continuing with the same old failed Western tactics in the Middle East is madness and just endangers British lives at home and abroad.

There is also, of course, lots of hypocrisy surrounding our relationship with Saudi Arabia - a country that has beheaded more people than IS could dream of. Britain and the US also need to think long and hard about their role as chief apologists for Zionism and the related Israeli violence that goes with it.

Yep, IS are murderous bastards who need destroying by other Middle East countries but our own foreign policy in that part of the world is riddled with hypocrisy driven by balance sheet greed and we are all paying for that.

And when we do decide to go into these countries, we only do a half arsed job anyway. 2 wars in Iraq and the place is a 100 times more dangerous now than it ever was when sadam was alive. 8 or so years in afghanistan, and as far as I can see, nothing has changed except there is a bigger terrorist threat around the world. And as for Syria, you only have to turn the news on to see how that's turned out. we never learn from our mistakes. I am a firm believer, that the best way to solve the middle east problems (mainly caused by western countries) is to let middle eastern countries deal with it themselves. They will either fix the problems, or it will fizzle out and come to a natural conclusion eventually. At least we won't be seen as the agressors

Re: ISIS WTF

Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:37 pm

Latest video is absolutely shocking - 3 captured Syrian soldiers, tied up and kick / beaten to death by 100s of ISIS supporters then their corpses are chained to motorbikes driven around the town.

Re: ISIS WTF

Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:45 pm

And the world nations are doing f**k all about it! time for World War 3 and destroy all the extremists!

USA, UK and others started this.. we invaded them and made it worse for the WORLD. Was a better place and more peace than now when Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi was around!

Re: ISIS WTF

Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:53 pm

If coalition led forces do end up destroying this Isis outfit, then I can only see another group coming out of the shadows that will be even more ruthless and deranged. This is the problem we have. It will never end with the way we are going about things. It will only get worse. It wouldn't surprise me if there were a cue of different organisations waiting to take center stage after Isis are Finished. Just like Isis have taken over the baton from bin laden and Al-Qaeda

Re: ISIS WTF

Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:22 pm

mr'mogreenz wrote:
alfie sherwood wrote:Every right thinking person wants to see IS destroyed as quickly as possible.

Their destruction has to come from other Middle Eastern countries though. Western intervention in that region ALWAYS creates more problems. The UK and US only ever get involved in that part of the globe to make rich western shareholders in the oil industry even wealthier.

I've read a few people suggest that more western air strikes and 'boots on the ground' will eliminate IS. Good luck with that! You can't simply destroy a warped ideology with bullets and bombs. Does anyone seriously think that impressionable young Muslim men and women living in the West won't be more of a threat to all of us if their 'brothers and sisters' are killed as martyrs?

We need to face facts that continuing with the same old failed Western tactics in the Middle East is madness and just endangers British lives at home and abroad.

There is also, of course, lots of hypocrisy surrounding our relationship with Saudi Arabia - a country that has beheaded more people than IS could dream of. Britain and the US also need to think long and hard about their role as chief apologists for Zionism and the related Israeli violence that goes with it.

Yep, IS are murderous bastards who need destroying by other Middle East countries but our own foreign policy in that part of the world is riddled with hypocrisy driven by balance sheet greed and we are all paying for that.

And when we do decide to go into these countries, we only do a half arsed job anyway. 2 wars in Iraq and the place is a 100 times more dangerous now than it ever was when sadam was alive. 8 or so years in afghanistan, and as far as I can see, nothing has changed except there is a bigger terrorist threat around the world. And as for Syria, you only have to turn the news on to see how that's turned out. we never learn from our mistakes. I am a firm believer, that the best way to solve the middle east problems (mainly caused by western countries) is to let middle eastern countries deal with it themselves. They will either fix the problems, or it will fizzle out and come to a natural conclusion eventually. At least we won't be seen as the agressors


The problem for ordinary British citizens is the 'war on terror' that was sold to us by our political leaders was never genuinely a fight against terrorism, more a case of protecting western oil interests in that volatile area.

Sure, the west felt it needed to defeat Al Qaeda and depose a number of tyrannical Middle Eastern leaders but this was primarily done in order to make the business deals run more smoothly. The 'war on terror' was always a bogus pretext for more military intervention to protect US and British financial interests.That said, I don't think either Bush or Blair expected that their wars would leave such a disastrous legacy.

As you rightly say, the Middle East countries have to tackle the IS threat themselves. The west sticking their oar in will just be viewed as imperialism.

Re: ISIS WTF

Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:25 pm

mr'mogreenz wrote:If coalition led forces do end up destroying this Isis outfit, then I can only see another group coming out of the shadows that will be even more ruthless and deranged. This is the problem we have. It will never end with the way we are going about things. It will only get worse. It wouldn't surprise me if there were a cue of different organisations waiting to take center stage after Isis are Finished. Just like Isis have taken over the baton from bin laden and Al-Qaeda


Agree. IS is trying desperately to provoke the West and other Middle Eastern countries because they want Jihad and the martyrdom that follows.