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Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:22 pm

This weekend I was allocated Blackburn-v-Stoke in the FA Cup to photograph.

Done Blackburn a couple of times this season and, every time I cover their games, I only remind myself of the loss Rudy and Craig Conway were. Two players who we should have kept hold of.

Rudy is fast becoming a Star at Ewood and is on the verge of a £5m transfer. Conway still gives 200%

Anyway, if anyone is interested, here are some pictures from the game - (Its a gallery so the pictures will change on their own)

http://actionplusps.photoshelter.com/gallery-slideshow/G0000gMsRWWKiruA/?start=

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:27 pm

We really need to keep an eye on those two and especially Rhodes. :thumbright:

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:33 pm

Cheers Paul :thumbright:

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:29 pm

They were only a loss because they've done well for Blackburn, in reality they didn't offer much to us and we had far better options at the time.

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:44 pm

JonCCFC wrote:They were only a loss because they've done well for Blackburn, in reality they didn't offer much to us and we had far better options at the time.



What I saw of Rudy he's changed he's more team player with a much better touch than he ever had with us! :old:

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:26 am

both are doing well.

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:09 am

JonCCFC wrote:They were only a loss because they've done well for Blackburn, in reality they didn't offer much to us and we had far better options at the time.

Sorry Jon, But you're wrong!"

With regard to Conway, then most Cardiff supporters would have to say that he never had the pace to go past many players, but he always helped out the full backs on his side defensively, could get in accurate crosses and had a decent shot on him!

With regard to Rudy, I'd have to say that the vast majority of our supporters underestimated him and didn't give him enough credit for his potential, possibly picking out isolated incidents like the ball that hit him on the back on a windswept day at the new CCS a couple of seasons ago!

Me, I remember his stand out performances, like when he played against Liverpool in the Carling Cup final v Liverpool at Wembley and his MOTM performance (IMO), when we beat Leicester 1-0 away 3 seasons ago!

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:20 am

What I'd like to know, is how many people who labelled Rudy a donkey (or similar), now realise they were wrong and are prepared to admit it?

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:00 am

Overthemoon wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:They were only a loss because they've done well for Blackburn, in reality they didn't offer much to us and we had far better options at the time.

Sorry Jon, But you're wrong!"

With regard to Conway, then most Cardiff supporters would have to say that he never had the pace to go past many players, but he always helped out the full backs on his side defensively, could get in accurate crosses and had a decent shot on him!

With regard to Rudy, I'd have to say that the vast majority of our supporters underestimated him and didn't give him enough credit for his potential, possibly picking out isolated incidents like the ball that hit him on the back on a windswept day at the new CCS a couple of seasons ago!

Me, I remember his stand out performances, like when he played against Liverpool in the Carling Cup final v Liverpool at Wembley and his MOTM performance (IMO), when we beat Leicester 1-0 away 3 seasons ago!

Sorry Overthemoon, but you're deluded.

Conway I can understand, he was a good player for us but we did have better options.

But Rudy Gestede only ever had one stand out, man of the match performance during his time here for me, and that was against Forest when we scored those two goals, which I give him credit for. Other than that day, he was very lazy and his only decent attribute was being able to jump higher than anyone else, but even then he wasn't that good at heading. I'm happy for him now that he's finally found his form at Blackburn. He's become a very good player and no one can deny that. But the truth is that he was useless for us, he had one or two good games but that was about it.

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:00 am

Overthemoon wrote:What I'd like to know, is how many people who labelled Rudy a donkey (or similar), now realise they were wrong and are prepared to admit it?

Rudy WAS a donkey. :thumbright:

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:36 am

Always predicted he'd peak later on. Still think he'll move to the Premier League and do well as well. He's a target man and that mental game takes longer to develop. Its all about team work, positioning, reading the game. You do not master it over night. Its not as easy as just running in behind your man and using pace once you've ensured you're onside. Oh, and you can undermine Rudy's role all you like but I suppose Bergkamp was poor as well then cause he didn't score as many goals as Henry. Players like Rudy take opposition out of the game because they are a nuisance. They throw themselves about, become a nuisance in the box and this makes space for others. He did that for us but because we were doing well that season and most fans, the red aside, had nothing to moan about, they scapegoated Rudy to hell just to have a dig when things didn't go 100% correct. Its no coincidence that when we won, the Rudy haters said nothing. No complaints when he destroyed Forest. All the complaints came when the side overall was poor and we'd draw against someone.

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:55 am

JonCCFC wrote:They were only a loss because they've done well for Blackburn, in reality they didn't offer much to us and we had far better options at the time.



I agree in terms of Rudy, but personally I always rated Conway and thought he made some great contributions in our promotion season. Played better when he was more direct but very hard working team player and these are the ones you need on your way down. Just more proof of how naive ogs was

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:00 am

JonCCFC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:They were only a loss because they've done well for Blackburn, in reality they didn't offer much to us and we had far better options at the time.

Sorry Jon, But you're wrong!"

With regard to Conway, then most Cardiff supporters would have to say that he never had the pace to go past many players, but he always helped out the full backs on his side defensively, could get in accurate crosses and had a decent shot on him!

With regard to Rudy, I'd have to say that the vast majority of our supporters underestimated him and didn't give him enough credit for his potential, possibly picking out isolated incidents like the ball that hit him on the back on a windswept day at the new CCS a couple of seasons ago!

Me, I remember his stand out performances, like when he played against Liverpool in the Carling Cup final v Liverpool at Wembley and his MOTM performance (IMO), when we beat Leicester 1-0 away 3 seasons ago!

Sorry Overthemoon, but you're deluded.

Conway I can understand, he was a good player for us but we did have better options.

But Rudy Gestede only ever had one stand out, man of the match performance during his time here for me, and that was against Forest when we scored those two goals, which I give him credit for. Other than that day, he was very lazy and his only decent attribute was being able to jump higher than anyone else, but even then he wasn't that good at heading. I'm happy for him now that he's finally found his form at Blackburn. He's become a very good player and no one can deny that. But the truth is that he was useless for us, he had one or two good games but that was about it.


So who was a better option on the left winger then?

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:23 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:They were only a loss because they've done well for Blackburn, in reality they didn't offer much to us and we had far better options at the time.

Sorry Jon, But you're wrong!"

With regard to Conway, then most Cardiff supporters would have to say that he never had the pace to go past many players, but he always helped out the full backs on his side defensively, could get in accurate crosses and had a decent shot on him!

With regard to Rudy, I'd have to say that the vast majority of our supporters underestimated him and didn't give him enough credit for his potential, possibly picking out isolated incidents like the ball that hit him on the back on a windswept day at the new CCS a couple of seasons ago!

Me, I remember his stand out performances, like when he played against Liverpool in the Carling Cup final v Liverpool at Wembley and his MOTM performance (IMO), when we beat Leicester 1-0 away 3 seasons ago!

Sorry Overthemoon, but you're deluded.

Conway I can understand, he was a good player for us but we did have better options.

But Rudy Gestede only ever had one stand out, man of the match performance during his time here for me, and that was against Forest when we scored those two goals, which I give him credit for. Other than that day, he was very lazy and his only decent attribute was being able to jump higher than anyone else, but even then he wasn't that good at heading. I'm happy for him now that he's finally found his form at Blackburn. He's become a very good player and no one can deny that. But the truth is that he was useless for us, he had one or two good games but that was about it.

Typical response from you Jon, everybody is deluded for having a different opinion to you!

Rudy not good at heading! :lol:
Rudy lazy! :lol:

For lazy, insert Jon Parkin!

He's finally found his form at Blackburn BTW, as they could see his potential unlike our club and many supporters and was given an extended run in their team, which has ultimately paid dividends for him and them!

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:40 pm

We moan about Slades coaching team but Malkeys couldn't have been great, rudy has been coached into a very good player at this level at Blackburn and someone who would start every week here now

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:13 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:We really need to keep an eye on those two and especially Rhodes. :thumbright:


Agree ;) :oops: :oops: :oops:

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:44 am

Overthemoon wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:They were only a loss because they've done well for Blackburn, in reality they didn't offer much to us and we had far better options at the time.

Sorry Jon, But you're wrong!"

With regard to Conway, then most Cardiff supporters would have to say that he never had the pace to go past many players, but he always helped out the full backs on his side defensively, could get in accurate crosses and had a decent shot on him!

With regard to Rudy, I'd have to say that the vast majority of our supporters underestimated him and didn't give him enough credit for his potential, possibly picking out isolated incidents like the ball that hit him on the back on a windswept day at the new CCS a couple of seasons ago!

Me, I remember his stand out performances, like when he played against Liverpool in the Carling Cup final v Liverpool at Wembley and his MOTM performance (IMO), when we beat Leicester 1-0 away 3 seasons ago!


Rudy was a man good at that leicester away match best performance by an individual player I can remember for cardiff.

I said it was stupid when we sold him it left us with just one target man Jones for the remainder of our prem season.

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:18 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:They were only a loss because they've done well for Blackburn, in reality they didn't offer much to us and we had far better options at the time.

Sorry Jon, But you're wrong!"

With regard to Conway, then most Cardiff supporters would have to say that he never had the pace to go past many players, but he always helped out the full backs on his side defensively, could get in accurate crosses and had a decent shot on him!

With regard to Rudy, I'd have to say that the vast majority of our supporters underestimated him and didn't give him enough credit for his potential, possibly picking out isolated incidents like the ball that hit him on the back on a windswept day at the new CCS a couple of seasons ago!

Me, I remember his stand out performances, like when he played against Liverpool in the Carling Cup final v Liverpool at Wembley and his MOTM performance (IMO), when we beat Leicester 1-0 away 3 seasons ago!

Sorry Overthemoon, but you're deluded.

Conway I can understand, he was a good player for us but we did have better options.

But Rudy Gestede only ever had one stand out, man of the match performance during his time here for me, and that was against Forest when we scored those two goals, which I give him credit for. Other than that day, he was very lazy and his only decent attribute was being able to jump higher than anyone else, but even then he wasn't that good at heading. I'm happy for him now that he's finally found his form at Blackburn. He's become a very good player and no one can deny that. But the truth is that he was useless for us, he had one or two good games but that was about it.

Typical response from you Jon, everybody is deluded for having a different opinion to you!

Rudy not good at heading! :lol:
Rudy lazy! :lol:

For lazy, insert Jon Parkin!

He's finally found his form at Blackburn BTW, as they could see his potential unlike our club and many supporters and was given an extended run in their team, which has ultimately paid dividends for him and them!

It's the truth, he offered absolutely nothing and stood around like a statue waiting for the ball to come to him. He had his good games, just like every player, but the fact you can pick out the games he did play well in just says it all.

Jon Parkin was on a complete different level of laziness. Jay Bothroyd was lazy too but at least he scored goals.

I never denied that he had potential, but what's the point in keeping a player around if he consistently does nothing? 7 goals in 55 games isn't great, is it?

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:20 pm

nubbsy wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:They were only a loss because they've done well for Blackburn, in reality they didn't offer much to us and we had far better options at the time.

Sorry Jon, But you're wrong!"

With regard to Conway, then most Cardiff supporters would have to say that he never had the pace to go past many players, but he always helped out the full backs on his side defensively, could get in accurate crosses and had a decent shot on him!

With regard to Rudy, I'd have to say that the vast majority of our supporters underestimated him and didn't give him enough credit for his potential, possibly picking out isolated incidents like the ball that hit him on the back on a windswept day at the new CCS a couple of seasons ago!

Me, I remember his stand out performances, like when he played against Liverpool in the Carling Cup final v Liverpool at Wembley and his MOTM performance (IMO), when we beat Leicester 1-0 away 3 seasons ago!

Sorry Overthemoon, but you're deluded.

Conway I can understand, he was a good player for us but we did have better options.

But Rudy Gestede only ever had one stand out, man of the match performance during his time here for me, and that was against Forest when we scored those two goals, which I give him credit for. Other than that day, he was very lazy and his only decent attribute was being able to jump higher than anyone else, but even then he wasn't that good at heading. I'm happy for him now that he's finally found his form at Blackburn. He's become a very good player and no one can deny that. But the truth is that he was useless for us, he had one or two good games but that was about it.


So who was a better option on the left winger then?

Bellamy and Noone?

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:24 pm

nubbsy wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:They were only a loss because they've done well for Blackburn, in reality they didn't offer much to us and we had far better options at the time.



I agree in terms of Rudy, but personally I always rated Conway and thought he made some great contributions in our promotion season. Played better when he was more direct but very hard working team player and these are the ones you need on your way down. Just more proof of how naive ogs was


Didn't Malky leave him out of the 25 man squad in the premier league?

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:46 am

Rudy showed he could be quality agaisnt liverpool in the league cup final
gave srktel and agger hell and showed with time he would come good we never gave him a chance in the prem which annoyed me especially considering we payed 8 plus mill for cornelious who looked no better

Re: Blackburn - Rudy & Conway

Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:30 am

JonCCFC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:They were only a loss because they've done well for Blackburn, in reality they didn't offer much to us and we had far better options at the time.

Sorry Jon, But you're wrong!"

With regard to Conway, then most Cardiff supporters would have to say that he never had the pace to go past many players, but he always helped out the full backs on his side defensively, could get in accurate crosses and had a decent shot on him!

With regard to Rudy, I'd have to say that the vast majority of our supporters underestimated him and didn't give him enough credit for his potential, possibly picking out isolated incidents like the ball that hit him on the back on a windswept day at the new CCS a couple of seasons ago!

Me, I remember his stand out performances, like when he played against Liverpool in the Carling Cup final v Liverpool at Wembley and his MOTM performance (IMO), when we beat Leicester 1-0 away 3 seasons ago!

Sorry Overthemoon, but you're deluded.

Conway I can understand, he was a good player for us but we did have better options.

But Rudy Gestede only ever had one stand out, man of the match performance during his time here for me, and that was against Forest when we scored those two goals, which I give him credit for. Other than that day, he was very lazy and his only decent attribute was being able to jump higher than anyone else, but even then he wasn't that good at heading. I'm happy for him now that he's finally found his form at Blackburn. He's become a very good player and no one can deny that. But the truth is that he was useless for us, he had one or two good games but that was about it.

Typical response from you Jon, everybody is deluded for having a different opinion to you!

Rudy not good at heading! :lol:
Rudy lazy! :lol:

For lazy, insert Jon Parkin!

He's finally found his form at Blackburn BTW, as they could see his potential unlike our club and many supporters and was given an extended run in their team, which has ultimately paid dividends for him and them!

It's the truth, he offered absolutely nothing and stood around like a statue waiting for the ball to come to him. He had his good games, just like every player, but the fact you can pick out the games he did play well in just says it all.

Jon Parkin was on a complete different level of laziness. Jay Bothroyd was lazy too but at least he scored goals.

I never denied that he had potential, but what's the point in keeping a player around if he consistently does nothing? 7 goals in 55 games isn't great, is it?

The majority of those games would have been as a sub and over a 3 year period, so not as bad a picture as you're painting!

As I said before, had he been given a decent run in the team like he has been at Blackburn, then we may well have been reaping the benefit now and not them!