Doom and Gloom posters in mass

God bored of reading them so many, almost comical to be honest. Attacking the club you support from every single angle!! Yes we have an awful manager, yes we are serving up the worst football since pre Sam hamman days but seriously get a grip.

We are crap, deal with it and stick by your team. I will be and my two children will be for the Blackburn game supporting the one and only team that I love be it dire football or not.

Paying customers have every right to be doom and gloomers.
They are entitled to moan any time they like.
Now is one of the best times I reckon.

Paying customers have every right to be doom and gloomers.
They are entitled to moan any time they like.
Now is one of the best times I reckon.

I never see myself as a customer just supporting my team but I appreciate some fans must see it very differently, I can never quite get my head around it. I am a customer at a bar, hotel, restaurant and lots of other times but at my football club I support them because I always have. Course I want good football and all the trimmings, I can stay at a different hotel, I can eat at a different restaurant. I can't however change my football team. They are for life

Remember the football we are now watching is as bad as the Durban days,with players on £1,000's a week, I never thought I would ever see that type of football again

Remember the football we are now watching is as bad as the Durban days,with players on £1,000's a week, I never thought I would ever see that type of football again

They aren't individually that standard of player, they are totally lost and devoid of ideas and without doubt confidence is shot. One thing that keeps being mentioned and keeps re appearing. LEADERS!!! We have none and all teams need them.

Remember the football we are now watching is as bad as the Durban days,with players on £1,000's a week, I never thought I would ever see that type of football again

Agree Annis..it is that bad!


""I never see myself as a customer just supporting my team but I appreciate some fans must see it very differently, I can never quite get my head around it. I am a customer at a bar, hotel, restaurant and lots of other times but at my football club I support them because I always have. Course I want good football and all the trimmings, I can stay at a different hotel, I can eat at a different restaurant. I can't however change my football team. They are for life""

Trust me though, if you are paying, you're a customer. You have rights as a customer too, just as the club has responsibilities to provide a service. I do know what you're saying though.

Remember the football we are now watching is as bad as the Durban days,with players on £1,000's a week, I never thought I would ever see that type of football again

They aren't individually that standard of player, they are totally lost and devoid of ideas and without doubt confidence is shot. One thing that keeps being mentioned and keeps re appearing. LEADERS!!! We have none and all teams need them.

We have No leader and Russell the puppet should of got one or was he scared as Ive already been told he lost the dressing room the other week.

In mass what? You didn't finish the sentence.

God bored of reading them so many, almost comical to be honest. Attacking the club you support from every single angle!! Yes we have an awful manager, yes we are serving up the worst football since pre Sam hamman days but seriously get a grip.

We are crap, deal with it and stick by your team. I will be and my two children will be for the Blackburn game supporting the one and only team that I love be it dire football or not.

This doesn't make any sense!

Remember the football we are now watching is as bad as the Durban days,with players on £1,000's a week, I never thought I would ever see that type of football again

Agree Annis..it is that bad!


""I never see myself as a customer just supporting my team but I appreciate some fans must see it very differently, I can never quite get my head around it. I am a customer at a bar, hotel, restaurant and lots of other times but at my football club I support them because I always have. Course I want good football and all the trimmings, I can stay at a different hotel, I can eat at a different restaurant. I can't however change my football team. They are for life""

Trust me though, if you are paying, you're a customer. You have rights as a customer too, just as the club has responsibilities to provide a service. I do know what you're saying though.

does the rights as a customer mean that you can demand a better service from the club?

its the equivalent of getting a meal in a restaurant that you think is poor, you may get your money back, but if you are going there to have a whine and let off steam, they will tell you where to go.

if you see a crap film do you demand your money back? try it and let us know.

Paying customers have every right to be doom and gloomers.
They are entitled to moan any time they like.
Now is one of the best times I reckon.

I never see myself as a customer just supporting my team but I appreciate some fans must see it very differently, I can never quite get my head around it. I am a customer at a bar, hotel, restaurant and lots of other times but at my football club I support them because I always have. Course I want good football and all the trimmings, I can stay at a different hotel, I can eat at a different restaurant. I can't however change my football team. They are for life

Never agreed with a post more

I see city as an investment in something I love win or lose and always have the price doesn't bother me I'll spend £150 on a home day out if not more, I appreciate times are hard for most people but I've seen far worse football before and I've seen us lose more often than win and that's never bothered me either

An investment in a good day out with fellow friends and supporters, some friends made through following the city as well and that's what I love about match days well used to

Unfortunately our recent success has become the downfall of our club and fanbase

Expectations are no longer in line with reality and if it's not the colours it's the managers the cuts the players the atmosphere

We make the atmosphere and right now it's one of self pity and negativity which transfers to the players on the pitch never in all my time watching have I seen so many fans boo our own team it actually makes me wonder why I go sometimes these days

We should be singing louder and prouder than ever before with the recent lift we have had regarding our true identity returning and supporting the team rain and shine yet we are not

Like I mentioned before once we get or colours back (we have) nothing will change and spot on I was

There's always an agenda with most city fans an agenda that never existed in the doldrums of te lower leagues the time I fell in love with the club and the match day experience something that I no longer love like I did as I 7 year old boy getting soaked in the bob bank watching us get thumped 4-0 at home but still singing loud and proud because we were Cardiff city it was our club and we are proud of it no matter what!! Unfortunately those die hard fans seem to have been replaced with moaning whining miserable bastards more worried about the price of a ticket than actually enjoying their day out supporting the club from the stands and making new friends

It's a sad state of affairs which is making myself hesitant to renew again not the football not the price not the fact we are losing the fact out fan base is a shadow of its former self

Hopefully one day we will rise from the ashes maybe that day will be when tan leaves but that's just an excuse IMO and after he moves on there will be some other reason for our fans too moan

Maybe it's a drop back to realty in the lower leagues we need? Maybe the fans who are really that down about the football the club in general should perhaps re-evaluate why they actually attend games? Perhaps if they dig deep enough they'll realise why they went to start with, I'm pretty sure most if honest would agree quality of football, price of tickets etc really wasn't a big influence in why they fell in love with Cardiff city football club in the first place

I've done a lot of that recently which is why I've written this today and for me renewing currently in the toxic atmosphere is just not what I want to do, my love for the club may change that decision but that enjoyment factor has left and that isn't down to tan, the rebrand the football the pricing it's down to the match day experience which for me just isn't their anymore and I blame almost every supporter for that including myself, that wonderful atmosphere that was once associated with this club is now near on extinct

Sad sad times

Wont be long before we're relegated and they all sod back off to Old Trafford anyway.

Paying customers have every right to be doom and gloomers.
They are entitled to moan any time they like.
Now is one of the best times I reckon.

I never see myself as a customer just supporting my team but I appreciate some fans must see it very differently, I can never quite get my head around it. I am a customer at a bar, hotel, restaurant and lots of other times but at my football club I support them because I always have. Course I want good football and all the trimmings, I can stay at a different hotel, I can eat at a different restaurant. I can't however change my football team. They are for life

Never agreed with a post more

I see city as an investment in something I love win or lose and always have the price doesn't bother me I'll spend £150 on a home day out if not more, I appreciate times are hard for most people but I've seen far worse football before and I've seen us lose more often than win and that's never bothered me either

An investment in a good day out with fellow friends and supporters, some friends made through following the city as well and that's what I love about match days well used to

Unfortunately our recent success has become the downfall of our club and fanbase

Expectations are no longer in line with reality and if it's not the colours it's the managers the cuts the players the atmosphere

We make the atmosphere and right now it's one of self pity and negativity which transfers to the players on the pitch never in all my time watching have I seen so many fans boo our own team it actually makes me wonder why I go sometimes these days

We should be singing louder and prouder than ever before with the recent lift we have had regarding our true identity returning and supporting the team rain and shine yet we are not

Like I mentioned before once we get or colours back (we have) nothing will change and spot on I was

There's always an agenda with most city fans an agenda that never existed in the doldrums of te lower leagues the time I fell in love with the club and the match day experience something that I no longer love like I did as I 7 year old boy getting soaked in the bob bank watching us get thumped 4-0 at home but still singing loud and proud because we were Cardiff city it was our club and we are proud of it no matter what!! Unfortunately those die hard fans seem to have been replaced with moaning whining miserable bastards more worried about the price of a ticket than actually enjoying their day out supporting the club from the stands and making new friends

It's a sad state of affairs which is making myself hesitant to renew again not the football not the price not the fact we are losing the fact out fan base is a shadow of its former self

Hopefully one day we will rise from the ashes maybe that day will be when tan leaves but that's just an excuse IMO and after he moves on there will be some other reason for our fans too moan

Maybe it's a drop back to realty in the lower leagues we need? Maybe the fans who are really that down about the football the club in general should perhaps re-evaluate why they actually attend games? Perhaps if they dig deep enough they'll realise why they went to start with, I'm pretty sure most if honest would agree quality of football, price of tickets etc really wasn't a big influence in why they fell in love with Cardiff city football club in the first place

I've done a lot of that recently which is why I've written this today and for me renewing currently in the toxic atmosphere is just not what I want to do, my love for the club may change that decision but that enjoyment factor has left and that isn't down to tan, the rebrand the football the pricing it's down to the match day experience which for me just isn't their anymore and I blame almost every supporter for that including myself, that wonderful atmosphere that was once associated with this club is now near on extinct

Sad sad times

Good post - I have this conversation with all the other ST holders by us in 112, it is a difficult situation.

My take is this - I support the club, the team, whichever muppet is in charge (club or team) and let's face it, we've had plenty. My father-in-law and me will be renewing, no problem - doesn't stop us despair about the football, but that in itself is not a reason to stop going.

I'm lucky, I can afford it - I perfectly understand people who aren't as lucky as me financially where spending on this garbage is hard to justify.

As for the football, I'd just say this - every team goes through rough patches, I know we look crap at the moment, but I think positively and I do see little glimpses of improvements, not enough to stop some booing but enough to me as a fairly crap footballer that there is some hope.

I think we will stutter till the end of the season, avoid relegation with a few scabby wins and one good one, finish bottom half, take the summer off and just have a pre-season to sort this mess out. We had to lose players, sorry, Vinnie has put enough of his money in when no other idiot was prepared to do it.

We as fans just have to suck it up and be men, we have our colours back, we need to do our bit.

I completely understand if that isn't for everybody, but please, don't boo my team.

CTID

Paying customers have every right to be doom and gloomers.
They are entitled to moan any time they like.
Now is one of the best times I reckon.

I never see myself as a customer just supporting my team but I appreciate some fans must see it very differently, I can never quite get my head around it. I am a customer at a bar, hotel, restaurant and lots of other times but at my football club I support them because I always have. Course I want good football and all the trimmings, I can stay at a different hotel, I can eat at a different restaurant. I can't however change my football team. They are for life

But unfortunately many of us do just feel like customers now and we've been dragged into modern football by our bollocks and

Paying customers have every right to be doom and gloomers.
They are entitled to moan any time they like.
Now is one of the best times I reckon.

I never see myself as a customer just supporting my team but I appreciate some fans must see it very differently, I can never quite get my head around it. I am a customer at a bar, hotel, restaurant and lots of other times but at my football club I support them because I always have. Course I want good football and all the trimmings, I can stay at a different hotel, I can eat at a different restaurant. I can't however change my football team. They are for life

But unfortunately many of us do just feel like customers now and we've been dragged into modern football by our bollocks and

this...

Some different opinions and different views. Some it cuts deeper with, some just want good football and I get that as I have said previously all fans are different. What baffles me is the fans that moan constantly and put time and energy in to it because " we are crap" yes we are at this moment and that won't change for a while. If you are only in it for the football then I guess it's

We have become customers in modern day football.

Sky proved that with the bonkers money paid out for tv rights.

So as a paying customer we have the right to express our mind when we are paying to be entertained and we are not getting value for money.

Yes there will be ups and downs and we can all deal with that but the shower of shit on display at the moment is worse than any I have ever witnessed at any level in following the city. over 10 yrs a season ticket hokder and watching sunce early 90's. We have a soulless side who lack fight and determination and a cannot be arsed approach towards their manager. This was predictable and mentioned by many prior to his appointment. He does not command the dressing room or the training pitch and the evidence shows they do not respect him or His dinosaur ideas and tactics of which are not up to the standard that some of our team are used to and as a massive backwards step you can see its filtered onto the pitch,