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' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:00 pm

I agree with Russell Slade and if nobody else can see it then you must be blind.

We are in a period of transition.

For 10 years we were a Championship club, and for a number of those years we were flirting close to becoming a top flight club, after years of trying we briefly had our moment in the Premier League but during this transition and masquerading as top end football club we are set to become a League One club in a short time.

The transition is in full flow and unless our fortunes change dramatically and very soon, then the transition from Championship, to Premier League, to League One will be upon us sooner than some think.

What else can be said on tonight's game than what has already been said, I think that is the worst football match I have seen for a very long time involving Cardiff City.

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:05 pm

We were in a better position when we first came into the chsmpionship.

We need an experienced and respectable manger ASAP.

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:08 pm

Period of destruction I would say Carl.
I realise we had to reduce our wage bill and many who went weren't featuring anyway, but it's clearly evident most of Slade's recruits have not improved the side and the team are not playing for the manager which can only mean one thing?

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:12 pm

Valley Lad wrote:Period of destruction I would say Carl.
I realise we had to reduce our wage bill and many who went weren't featuring anyway, but it's clearly evident most of Slade's recruits have not improved the side and the team are not playing for the manager which can only mean one thing?


Spot on. That team were not playing for slade as he stood with his arms folded all game and not once did he offer any instruction the the lads on the field. His body language said it all.

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:13 pm

carlccfc wrote:I agree with Russell Slade and if nobody else can see it then you must be blind.

We are in a period of transition.

For 10 years we were a Championship club, and for a number of those years we were flirting close to becoming a top flight club, after years of trying we briefly had our moment in the Premier League but during this transition and masquerading as top end football club we are set to become a League One club in a short time.

The transition is in full flow and unless our fortunes change dramatically and very soon, then the transition from Championship, to Premier League, to League One will be upon us sooner than some think.

What else can be said on tonight's game than what has already been said, I think that is the worst football match I have seen for a very long time involving Cardiff City.


Carl, Between Tan & Slade the two of them are totally destroying our club.

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:17 pm

Period of transition?

Last 5 games at least, we have played with no energy, no enthusiam, no guts and no fire! I at least expect to see some good performances, some improvements even if we're not getting results! He is the worst manager that Cardiff have had in my lifetime, and he is destroying us! When was the last time our team had more than 50% possession?

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:30 am

the transition is one of having a squad that could get promoted with good management, to a cheaper team that will aim to retain championship status next year before a hopeful push for the play offs.

promotion aims will be shelved this year when we certainly had the players to achieve that. now that the depth and quality in the squad is being drastically reduced, it will be a difficult job for slade to mount a meaningful promotion campaign next year.

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:06 am

SwampCCFC wrote:the transition is one of having a squad that could get promoted with good management, to a cheaper team that will aim to retain championship status next year before a hopeful push for the play offs.

promotion aims will be shelved this year when we certainly had the players to achieve that. now that the depth and quality in the squad is being drastically reduced, it will be a difficult job for slade to mount a meaningful promotion campaign next year.





Especially as we won't be offering top notch wages as in previous seasons'.

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:09 am

carlccfc wrote:I agree with Russell Slade and if nobody else can see it then you must be blind.

We are in a period of transition.

For 10 years we were a Championship club, and for a number of those years we were flirting close to becoming a top flight club, after years of trying we briefly had our moment in the Premier League but during this transition and masquerading as top end football club we are set to become a League One club in a short time.

The transition is in full flow and unless our fortunes change dramatically and very soon, then the transition from Championship, to Premier League, to League One will be upon us sooner than some think.

What else can be said on tonight's game than what has already been said, I think that is the worst football match I have seen for a very long time involving Cardiff City.






Involving Cardiff City..probably more accurate if you said involving any team.

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:16 am

Can that smug tw*t from Sky Sports go and interview Tan about his English Arsene Wenger and get him to admit that his Phd in football was bought online from the University of Calcutta?

Slade needs to leave before we get into the relegation zone or we are fucked as we don't look up to the fight.

I feel sorry for Slade just as I feel sorry for the bloke in my local who keeps getting sacked from warehouse jobs for screwing up his picking.

Slade out!

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:33 am

On a cold wet Saturday in the winter of 1963 I stood for the first time in the corner of the Bob Bank and like many others from that time on I had my weekend made or ruined (more ruined actually!) by my team. In 50 years I have never felt so despondent or upset at the ongoing circus that masquerades as my Club. Though I say with a little embarrassment that as I now live in Portugal for 4 winter months, I have at least been spared the dross that you have been enduring most of this season. As I find myself constantly visiting the forum to keep up with all the ongoing news, I thought that being exiled might help me be objective and wonder whether there is a quick fix to end to this misery.

Keeping things simple applies to every aspect of life, the better we do it the simpler it gets The primary requirement of a manager is to create a "good place" for those they are responsible for, make "work" a place you want to be. Therein lies the fundamental problem, Mr. Tan knows business and how to be mighty successful at it, unfortunately in his world of business "passion" is something to be avoided, it risks mistakes, costly mistakes, so he entered the world of football with the same approach, he has appointed a succession of "bean counters" to run his club, each exhibiting a passionless ineptitude in not understanding Football and in no small way being the "cause" for all the embarrassing cock-ups that have littered Mr. Tans time at the club. The "effect" is that they have and continue to make CCFC a place where people do not enjoy coming to work or watching their team play.

When MM achieved one of the hardest tasks in World football, promotion to the Premier league, a self confident lightweight, Ian Moody, ran amok unchecked, the Board took no responsibility for his actions and even went a step further and let MM take the full wrath of Mr Tan for their incompetence. With OGS it went from the sublime to the ridiculous (or should it be from the ridiculous to the incredulous!) as, like a spoilt child child in a sweet shop, he grabbed hold of everything he could, with, apparently, no one asking him what the hell he was trying to achieve! Now we have Russell Slade, 3 months previous we were being told that we had the best squad ever, certainly the best in the Championship, but Russell has introduced them to his unique coaching approach, normally any coach at any level will set up their team to do 1 of 3 things; expect to win, try to win or try not to lose, however Russell Slade has developed a fourth, he is sending out his team expecting to lose! What's more alarmingly he seems to believe that his way is totally justified. Although he has removed many of the "flair" players he is still blessed with a quality squad, being outplayed in every match he has been in charge of is ripping the heart out of the most important people in the club, the supporters.

Mr. Tan be under no illusion, no other group of supporters have endured more false dawns, broken promises, lunatic owners, bizarre transfers or years of under achieving and now watching abrand of football that ranks along with the most dismal ever seen. Oh and to rub salt into the wound, seeing our recent cast-offs doing what we seem unable to do; score goals!

So what to do? Is there a get out clause, I see only one in the short term, sorry Russell you have to leave the building and Mr. Tan if you do want a successful club and a chance of getting your money back you need to have a good look at your Boardroom staff and get the brush out, it's time to get the passion back, as things stand the club would be in no worse a position had you put a group of "performing Seals" to run things. There are people out there who know business and football, maybe even make you get some fun for your money. Also get a supporter on the Board, I have heard Annis say that it would carry no weight, but if he or Carl had been able to speak their mind at Board meetings maybe a few daft decisions might have been averted. However today you need someone who can work with you and get to grips with the current shambles. Dave Jones may be the only man to do it, he is a bright man who can manage both ways, upwardly he can tell you "as it is" and he plays a brand of football that the current squad has the ability to take on board very quickly. Oh and put some passion into coaching, Bellers and Andy Legg would make life interesting.

Do nothing and Division one is beckoning.

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:27 am

carlccfc wrote:I agree with Russell Slade and if nobody else can see it then you must be blind. CRAP!

We are in a period of transition.

For 10 years we were a Championship club, and for a number of those years we were flirting close to becoming a top flight club, after years of trying we briefly had our moment in the Premier League but during this transition and masquerading as top end football club we are set to become a League One club in a short time.

The transition is in full flow and unless our fortunes change dramatically and very soon, then the transition from Championship, to Premier League, to League One will be upon us sooner than some think.

What else can be said on tonight's game than what has already been said, I think that is the worst football match I have seen for a very long time involving Cardiff City.


MORE CRAP! :old:

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:30 am

We are basically in a position where the current owner feels let down over the rebrand,and his only interest left in cardiff city is to recoup as much money as possible,he doesn't care what type of football we play,proved by the fact he s not been to a game this season,he's employed a manager on poor wages to replace high earners with lesser paid players from the lower leagues,I cant see our fortunes changing unfortunately,the type of players we have signed will only see the club go in one direction,and sadly that direction is only down

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:35 am

caerblue wrote:We are basically in a position where the current owner feels let down over the rebrand,and his only interest left in cardiff city is to recoup as much money as possible,he doesn't care what type of football we play,proved by the fact he s not been to a game this season,he's employed a manager on poor wages to replace high earners with lesser paid players from the lower leagues,I cant see our fortunes changing unfortunately,the type of players we have signed will only see the club go in one direction,and sadly that direction is only down


Poor wages, are you sure, it's a damn sight more than most of us all earn!!

Lucky he's not on performance pay!

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:39 am

CalShepCCFC wrote:Period of transition?

Last 5 games at least, we have played with no energy, no enthusiam, no guts and no fire! I at least expect to see some good performances, some improvements even if we're not getting results! He is the worst manager that Cardiff have had in my lifetime, and he is destroying us! When was the last time our team had more than 50% possession?


I think that you are being generous there. We have been playing abysmal, dire football for the last dozen games in which time there has been no signs of improvement. We are going backwards at a rapid rate of notes and if Slade had been in charge at the start of the season there is no doubt that we would be playing in Div 1 next season. The points we had on the board before he arrived might just save us.

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:53 am

Division 1 here we come

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Wed Feb 11, 2015 9:17 am

I can see what you mean about a period of transition. In terms of signings, I've not been too disappointed with the signings. Revell as back up for Jones makes sense. Doyle was a cracking signing. Malone and Peltier aren't as bad as some people have said. The two Everton lads appear to be decent acquisitions.

However, the manager isn't utilising any of these signings properly. I thought Doyle was taken off on Saturday to preserve him for last night... but then we play Jones up on his own? At home? We really needed a combative midfielder in the transfer window and we didn't sign one. We have quick wide men but they're not being used as they should be.

The only plus side is that our defence is actually beginning to look a bit more secure. It looks like we're stuck with Slade for the rest of the season but I'm not a fan of his stubbornness. Reminds me too much of Dave Jones at his worst.

I'm still amazed that with the plethora of cheap, young, and talented managers in the lower leagues we opted for an under-achieving, tired, and old manager.

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:35 am

Northwalesblues wrote:On a cold wet Saturday in the winter of 1963 I stood for the first time in the corner of the Bob Bank and like many others from that time on I had my weekend made or ruined (more ruined actually!) by my team. In 50 years I have never felt so despondent or upset at the ongoing circus that masquerades as my Club. Though I say with a little embarrassment that as I now live in Portugal for 4 winter months, I have at least been spared the dross that you have been enduring most of this season. As I find myself constantly visiting the forum to keep up with all the ongoing news, I thought that being exiled might help me be objective and wonder whether there is a quick fix to end to this misery.

Keeping things simple applies to every aspect of life, the better we do it the simpler it gets The primary requirement of a manager is to create a "good place" for those they are responsible for, make "work" a place you want to be. Therein lies the fundamental problem, Mr. Tan knows business and how to be mighty successful at it, unfortunately in his world of business "passion" is something to be avoided, it risks mistakes, costly mistakes, so he entered the world of football with the same approach, he has appointed a succession of "bean counters" to run his club, each exhibiting a passionless ineptitude in not understanding Football and in no small way being the "cause" for all the embarrassing cock-ups that have littered Mr. Tans time at the club. The "effect" is that they have and continue to make CCFC a place where people do not enjoy coming to work or watching their team play.

When MM achieved one of the hardest tasks in World football, promotion to the Premier league, a self confident lightweight, Ian Moody, ran amok unchecked, the Board took no responsibility for his actions and even went a step further and let MM take the full wrath of Mr Tan for their incompetence. With OGS it went from the sublime to the ridiculous (or should it be from the ridiculous to the incredulous!) as, like a spoilt child child in a sweet shop, he grabbed hold of everything he could, with, apparently, no one asking him what the hell he was trying to achieve! Now we have Russell Slade, 3 months previous we were being told that we had the best squad ever, certainly the best in the Championship, but Russell has introduced them to his unique coaching approach, normally any coach at any level will set up their team to do 1 of 3 things; expect to win, try to win or try not to lose, however Russell Slade has developed a fourth, he is sending out his team expecting to lose! What's more alarmingly he seems to believe that his way is totally justified. Although he has removed many of the "flair" players he is still blessed with a quality squad, being outplayed in every match he has been in charge of is ripping the heart out of the most important people in the club, the supporters.

Mr. Tan be under no illusion, no other group of supporters have endured more false dawns, broken promises, lunatic owners, bizarre transfers or years of under achieving and now watching abrand of football that ranks along with the most dismal ever seen. Oh and to rub salt into the wound, seeing our recent cast-offs doing what we seem unable to do; score goals!

So what to do? Is there a get out clause, I see only one in the short term, sorry Russell you have to leave the building and Mr. Tan if you do want a successful club and a chance of getting your money back you need to have a good look at your Boardroom staff and get the brush out, it's time to get the passion back, as things stand the club would be in no worse a position had you put a group of "performing Seals" to run things. There are people out there who know business and football, maybe even make you get some fun for your money. Also get a supporter on the Board, I have heard Annis say that it would carry no weight, but if he or Carl had been able to speak their mind at Board meetings maybe a few daft decisions might have been averted. However today you need someone who can work with you and get to grips with the current shambles. Dave Jones may be the only man to do it, he is a bright man who can manage both ways, upwardly he can tell you "as it is" and he plays a brand of football that the current squad has the ability to take on board very quickly. Oh and put some passion into coaching, Bellers and Andy Legg would make life interesting.

Do nothing and Division one is beckoning.

This is one of the best posts I've seen on here for a long time and all 100% true.
Well done that man :thumbup:

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:05 pm

carlccfc wrote:I agree with Russell Slade and if nobody else can see it then you must be blind.

We are in a period of transition.

For 10 years we were a Championship club, and for a number of those years we were flirting close to becoming a top flight club, after years of trying we briefly had our moment in the Premier League but during this transition and masquerading as top end football club we are set to become a League One club in a short time.

The transition is in full flow and unless our fortunes change dramatically and very soon, then the transition from Championship, to Premier League, to League One will be upon us sooner than some think.

What else can be said on tonight's game than what has already been said, I think that is the worst football match I have seen for a very long time involving Cardiff City.


Agree. Negative momentum has built up. The only solution though I see is to sack Slade.

Bring in someone short term to try to buck the trend, with the only goal to avoid relegation. Four wins and 3 draws should do it.

The fundamental problems within the Club remain, but the only priority should be to avoid relegation just now.

When I read they are designing the badge in-house, this just hi-lights yet again another missed opportunity, they could have done a competition with The Echo to boost supporter relationships, announced this when they change the colour to Blue and said results out 15 February.

1- Committee - 4 fans, + 2 from Echo, + 2 from club to choose badge design winner.
2- Only rules: a) not beer mat badge, b) not old badge c) Fully New Badge with Bluebird & Dragon

Even businesses seek to build relationships with their communities, a Football Club IS A COMMUNITY!!!

Re: ' PERIOD OF TRANSITION '

Wed Feb 11, 2015 5:39 pm

arri potta wrote:
caerblue wrote:We are basically in a position where the current owner feels let down over the rebrand,and his only interest left in cardiff city is to recoup as much money as possible,he doesn't care what type of football we play,proved by the fact he s not been to a game this season,he's employed a manager on poor wages to replace high earners with lesser paid players from the lower leagues,I cant see our fortunes changing unfortunately,the type of players we have signed will only see the club go in one direction,and sadly that direction is only down


Poor wages, are you sure, it's a damn sight more than most of us all earn!!

Lucky he's not on performance pay!

On what we ve paid previous managers,and in comparision with other managers in the championship slade wages are poor,in the real world though his wages are good,football is slowing killing it self and a massive reason players don't care any more