So what is killing the atmosphere/spark at sporting events

So what is killing the atmosphere at sporting events in this country? Is the working man priced out or is this just a myth and well actually we just can't be bothered and don't have that same passion and fight as seen years ago

I switched on to the egg Friday night, the build up had it all but sadly after 5 minutes normal service resumed and the only song that could be heard was a muted sweet chariots. Rugby fans have been complaining just like at us at the ccs that it is no longer. Surely England on a fri night is more than reason.

The home fans at Shef Weds made the Ccs sound like a fortress of noise, it's been similar at other grounds I have visited this season. That spark has gone, forget city I think we are to hard on ourselves that crackling noise fever atmosphere has long gone. But why? What do you think the reason is?

The once passionate people of this country have been dumbed down by an overzealous government that wants you to live in a false democracy thats actually a police state. It's all social control and those wider methods of control filter into British football culture. You don't see this nonsense in Italy, Bulgaria or Romania because the people there are allowed more freedoms. We're continuously told we've got it amazing and we're lucky to not be living in a place like Syria, which of course is true, but that doesn't mean you cant want more. This country is finished both economically and socially. Peter Hitchens has had it right all along and the youth of today would be far better getting the education they're entitled to have, like the privileged prats in power, and sodding off elsewhere around the world for a better quality of life.

All seater stadiums and the prohibitive price of tickets.......In all these events the average age of the audience has increased.

In the 80/90's supporting city was a male 20 something thing to do, now I (47) take my 13 year daughter. I would never have dreamt of buying a season ticket, wow they were expensive an one hell of a commitment.

£80 for a half decent seat on Friday........

The once passionate people of this country have been dumbed down by an overzealous government that wants you to live in a false democracy thats actually a police state. It's all social control and those wider methods of control filter into British football culture. You don't see this nonsense in Italy, Bulgaria or Romania because the people there are allowed more freedoms. We're continuously told we've got it amazing and we're lucky to not be living in a place like Syria, which of course is true, but that doesn't mean you cant want more. This country is finished both economically and socially. Peter Hitchens has had it right all along and the youth of today would be far better getting the education they're entitled to have, like the privileged prats in power, and sodding off elsewhere around the world for a better quality of life.

As in depth as that was I totally agree with you, it naturally does filter through on to the terraces and your quite in everything you say. Am not sure economically it's a disaster but socially it is and without doubt I will encourage my chiłdren to look at the options available world wide.

All seater stadiums and the prohibitive price of tickets.......In all these events the average age of the audience has increased.

In the 80/90's supporting city was a male 20 something thing to do, now I (47) take my 13 year daughter. I would never have dreamt of buying a season ticket, wow they were expensive an one hell of a commitment.

£80 for a half decent seat on Friday........

Another good post and maybe it is a combination of everything, interested to see what fellow people think.

The once passionate people of this country have been dumbed down by an overzealous government that wants you to live in a false democracy thats actually a police state. It's all social control and those wider methods of control filter into British football culture. You don't see this nonsense in Italy, Bulgaria or Romania because the people there are allowed more freedoms. We're continuously told we've got it amazing and we're lucky to not be living in a place like Syria, which of course is true, but that doesn't mean you cant want more. This country is finished both economically and socially. Peter Hitchens has had it right all along and the youth of today would be far better getting the education they're entitled to have, like the privileged prats in power, and sodding off elsewhere around the world for a better quality of life.

As in depth as that was I totally agree with you, it naturally does filter through on to the terraces and your quite in everything you say. Am not sure economically it's a disaster but socially it is and without doubt I will encourage my chiłdren to look at the options available world wide.

Its economically a disaster because the poor and middle classes, the majority of this country, will be put through austerity whilst the rich are given tax reliefs. The public sector is now inflated massively which puts further strain on the economy to not only raise more revenue to meet that public sector cost but also to service debts and interest accrued on that debt. Politicians have routinely inflated the public sector to an unsustainable level and people have become used to that way of life and expect it. Any politicians that mention cuts or privatisation, the two realistic approaches to sorting out this mess will be lambasted and abused and have no chance of getting back into power. The only way to keep the gravy train economically rolling is to continue pandering to the electorate and making the cuts as minimal as possible whilst raising intake - fines, taxes, whatever they can to fill the public pot.

I continuously hear that the UK has a strong economy and a growing economy - well, that means nothing when you have to fund an inflated public sector, debt and interest. Of course a growing economy helps towards those financial obligations but its not enough and politicians are lying when they tell you it is. The moment any political party mentions implementing policy that is actually going to deal with the problem the public will backlash and Labour will get back into power. The circus will continue on and on. The UK is economically finished. They'll either have to make drastic changes which'll impact the quality of life for the average person or continue the entire farce.

http://moneyweek.com/endofbritain/

Pricing of entrance fee puts off your average 20 something these days and they are generally the loudest fan age. The main problem which concerns me if people attention spans when no staring at glowing screen, fans use their phones to text, photo or video a lot during matches these days even in matches our minds are else where. Also see sing when your winning for answers, jokes aside I hear more noise on the concourse than the stands as this a time to put down the phones get a pint and a piss and talk, I'm drunk and rambling.

The Cardiff Arms park only held about 52000 but is a better atmosphere that the Millenium stadium.
I put it down to terracing.
The good old days in the east and west terrace were amazing. ...
Great memories...

The atmosphere has been killed by terracing.

Even if they brought back standing who is going to pay the entrance fee that they set these days? Yes a club can fill out their away location because that is a different experience all together. The mundane home fixture where we do it in our sleep is a challenge as it is and turning out to be an expensive hobby. Outpricing the bread and butter fan is what is killing it.

The atmosphere has been killed by terracing.

Even if they brought back standing who is going to pay the entrance fee that they set these days? Yes a club can fill out their away location because that is a different experience all together. The mundane home fixture where we do it in our sleep is a challenge as it is and turning out to be an expensive hobby. Outpricing the bread and butter fan is what is killing it.

Agreed Ian British football pricing is scandalous, IF footballers were paid 10%-20% less, in favour of fair ticket pricing for fans, then so be it.

If Chelsea and Man City couldn't afford another £20mil+ benchwarmer, that is no bad thing either

Just look at the differance between British fans over the weekend compared to the foreign ones, plus no standing, ticket price ect all plays its part.

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I paid £35 on the day the other week for the Fulham game. I'm alright for cash but like most people don't find that value for money and won't do it again. They need to bring back standing and make it cheaper, hopefully this will bring back some atmosphere to home fans as it seems every ground is woeful and away fans just take the piss. I really miss the way things used to be despite the agro, which to be honest very rarely occurred a lot.

Being seated.

Cost & not being allowed to stand.

Lots of different opinions but one very common one. Thanks for the posts

[b]So what is killing the atmosphere at sporting events in this country? [/b]Is the working man priced out or is this just a myth and well actually we just can't be bothered and don't have that same passion and fight as seen years ago
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I switched on to the egg Friday night, the build up had it all but sadly after 5 minutes normal service resumed and the only song that could be heard was a muted sweet chariots. Rugby fans have been complaining just like at us at the ccs that it is no longer. Surely England on a fri night is more than reason.

The home fans at Shef Weds made the Ccs sound like a fortress of noise, it's been similar at other grounds I have visited this season. That spark has gone, forget city I think we are to hard on ourselves that crackling noise fever atmosphere has long gone. But why? What do you think the reason is?

Ice Hockey in Cardiff is bucking the trend then, Most games are sell outs, the ticket prices are very competitive and they're planning to drop them next season in the new rink, the noise is deafening (the coaches have a job to pass instructions to players sitting next to them) and everybody joins in the chants, men, women, kids, old, young the lot, there is standing and seating available, players mix with fans and always do a lap of honour at the end of the game and do high fives with fans, you can take alcohol to your seat or standing place and the whole match night occasion is excellent.
Whether it's your scene or not the atmosphere cannot be faulted. Maybe in other sports the product on offer is not that good or exciting enough and the paying public is not getting value for money.

[b]So what is killing the atmosphere at sporting events in this country? [/b]Is the working man priced out or is this just a myth and well actually we just can't be bothered and don't have that same passion and fight as seen years ago
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I switched on to the egg Friday night, the build up had it all but sadly after 5 minutes normal service resumed and the only song that could be heard was a muted sweet chariots. Rugby fans have been complaining just like at us at the ccs that it is no longer. Surely England on a fri night is more than reason.

The home fans at Shef Weds made the Ccs sound like a fortress of noise, it's been similar at other grounds I have visited this season. That spark has gone, forget city I think we are to hard on ourselves that crackling noise fever atmosphere has long gone. But why? What do you think the reason is?

A total different experience and I did hear that it's a good one for the reasons mentioned above. One problem, you can't see the puck!!





Ice Hockey in Cardiff is bucking the trend then, Most games are sell outs, the ticket prices are very competitive and they're planning to drop them next season in the new rink, the noise is deafening (the coaches have a job to pass instructions to players sitting next to them) and everybody joins in the chants, men, women, kids, old, young the lot, there is standing and seating available, players mix with fans and always do a lap of honour at the end of the game and do high fives with fans, you can take alcohol to your seat or standing place and the whole match night occasion is excellent.
Whether it's your scene or not the atmosphere cannot be faulted. Maybe in other sports the product on offer is not that good or exciting enough and the paying public is not getting value for money.

I blame students, new breed of fan and vinny tan

We have stadiums to big for General use with actual fans, almost impossible to buy tickets for major clubs and nations in person off the street. Half the stadium size, and the atmosphere will improve, stops the day trippers and fancy dress brigade that fill the stadium.

Stop people taking pictures every second, people watch events through mobile phones these days rather than take in and join in a game, it's like being sat in a sTadium of kids.

Not aimed at the creator of this thread but I was in the stadium for the Wales game and the atmosphere was great.

It is completely different as you would expect. Rugby fans sit side by side. I didnt realise going to watch sport was now a singing contest.

Cardiff fans bitch that we only hear about welsh rugby games for 6 weeks a year. Not really. Whenever Wales play it is big.

Most fans of the welsh football team support english clubs. So have a go at those fans?.

And moaning that no one watches regional rugby is also laughable. Its not as if cardiff are some shitty regional team. The regional teams have been stripped of identity by the WRU. Who the fk are the ospreys? If it were Neath and Swansea as it should be maybe people would relate to them.

Only the lambrini drinking girls and dickheads not interested in rugby ruin it for everyone in the centre.

Not aimed at the creator of this thread but I was in the stadium for the Wales game and the atmosphere was great.

It is completely different as you would expect. Rugby fans sit side by side. I didnt realise going to watch sport was now a singing contest.

Cardiff fans bitch that we only hear about welsh rugby games for 6 weeks a year. Not really. Whenever Wales play it is big.

Most fans of the welsh football team support english clubs. So have a go at those fans?.

And moaning that no one watches regional rugby is also laughable. Its not as if cardiff are some shitty regional team. The regional teams have been stripped of identity by the WRU. Who the fk are the ospreys? If it were Neath and Swansea as it should be maybe people would relate to them.

Only the lambrini drinking girls and dickheads not interested in rugby ruin it for everyone in the centre.

I think proper rugby fans, not those that cant go 80mins without a beer or the fancy dress lot would have totalled about 55-60k just the stadium is a little to big, When Wales were going through a rough path again a couple of years back, i might be wrong as ive not checked but im sure they only sold about 55k for the SA November international?