Daehli:This is incredibly different. Much more professional

Some areas for improvement for CCFC?

- This is incredibly different. We train very much more. Much harder. Higher intensity. Much more professional in all areas. For me it's a bit strange to see it, but it's perfect. That's how I want it, says Dæhli




When Ole Gunnar Solskjaer left the club , he was determined to give everything to impress the new coaches. But he was not particularly desired by the new boss Russell Slade.

- I soon had a feeling that this was going to be a tough period. Playing style was greatly changed and it became very difficult for me to get a role in the team that made ​​that I could perform well. It was simply crash when it came philosophy.

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"Differences in philosophy"

When Ole Gunnar Solskjaer left the club , he was determined to give everything to impress the new coaches. But he was not particularly desired by the new boss Russell Slade.

- I soon had a feeling that this was going to be a tough period. Playing style was greatly changed and it became very difficult for me to get a role in the team that made ​​that I could perform well. It was simply crash when it came philosophy.

Wow he goes to a different country and notices a difference in style and way things are done, Wonder if that as ever happened to any other player before ?

- This is incredibly different. We train very much more. Much harder. Higher intensity. Much more professional in all areas. For me it's a bit strange to see it, but it's perfect. That's how I want it, says Dæhli

Wow that has to be a dig at his mentor Ole as it has been well publicized how unfit the players were under him.

Wow he goes to a different country and notices a difference in style and way things are done, Wonder if that as ever happened to any other player before ?

it never seizes to amaze me how delusional some of our fans are. I forgot, everything that is going on in this club is perfect. There is no room for improvement. Training is perfect, tactics is suberb and all of the players are superfit and highly motivated. Don´t you dare suggest otherwise...

Some areas for improvement for CCFC?

- This is incredibly different. We train very much more. Much harder. Higher intensity. Much more professional in all areas. For me it's a bit strange to see it, but it's perfect. That's how I want it, says Dæhli

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So much more professional that the team finds themselves at the bottom of the Bundesliga, I don't know whether that says a lot about Daehli's idea of professionalism, or how bad Cardiff were being managed by Ole.

Some areas for improvement for CCFC?

- This is incredibly different. We train very much more. Much harder. Higher intensity. Much more professional in all areas. For me it's a bit strange to see it, but it's perfect. That's how I want it, says Dæhli

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So much more professional that the team finds themselves at the bottom of the Bundesliga, I don't know whether that says a lot about Daehli's idea of professionalism, or how bad Cardiff were being managed by Ole.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/competitions/bundesliga/table

They are number 15 at the moment. Freiburg is a small club, with a small budget, that are dependent on developing talent. I will say it´s quite an achievement for a club like that to claim a place in the Bundesliga.

Some areas for improvement for CCFC?

- This is incredibly different. We train very much more. Much harder. Higher intensity. Much more professional in all areas. For me it's a bit strange to see it, but it's perfect. That's how I want it, says Dæhli

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So much more professional that the team finds themselves at the bottom of the Bundesliga, I don't know whether that says a lot about Daehli's idea of professionalism, or how bad Cardiff were being managed by Ole.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/competitions/bundesliga/table

They are number 15 at the moment. Freiburg is a small club, with a small budget, that are dependent on developing talent. I will say it´s quite an achievement for a club like that to claim a place in the Bundesliga.

As you say Daehli has signed for a small club - not Real Madrid or Barca - whereas quite a lot of people on this forum thought the kid was in the class of Messi!

There are no 19 year olds playing games for barca or Madrid. So that's just a silly comment. Could have stayed at man u and sat at the bench like his mates from the dvp team there.
Instead hes gone to a club where he gets to play and develop. Starting again today against Dortmund.
He's playing a sort of 9.5 or 10 role with freedom to roam.
As for his comments about the training its fairly well known the Germans are very concerned with fitness.
I don't think we should get so defensive he's not only talking about Cardiff he spent years in Manchester before coming to city.
German football culture has always been very strict and dilligent that's why they traditionally produce such successful teams.
I recent years they produced more technical players but that hardworking attitude is still there.
You saw how klinsmann implemented this really strict fitness regime that allowed the Americans to outperform some stronger teams at the world cup.

There are no 19 year olds playing games for barca or Madrid. So that's just a silly comment. Could have stayed at man u and sat at the bench like his mates from the dvp team there.
Instead hes gone to a club where he gets to play and develop. Starting again today against Dortmund.
He's playing a sort of 9.5 or 10 role with freedom to roam.
As for his comments about the training its fairly well known the Germans are very concerned with fitness.
I don't think we should get so defensive he's not only talking about Cardiff he spent years in Manchester before coming to city.
German football culture has always been very strict and dilligent that's why they traditionally produce such successful teams.
I recent years they produced more technical players but that hardworking attitude is still there.
You saw how klinsmann implemented this really strict fitness regime that allowed the Americans to outperform some stronger teams at the world cup.

You are missing the point - Real have just signed a 16 year old Norwegian - so if they are good enough they are old enough. The likes of Real were not remotely interested in Daehli - he's found his level - bottom of the Bundeslega.

There are no 19 year olds playing games for barca or Madrid. So that's just a silly comment. Could have stayed at man u and sat at the bench like his mates from the dvp team there.
Instead hes gone to a club where he gets to play and develop. Starting again today against Dortmund.
He's playing a sort of 9.5 or 10 role with freedom to roam.
As for his comments about the training its fairly well known the Germans are very concerned with fitness.
I don't think we should get so defensive he's not only talking about Cardiff he spent years in Manchester before coming to city.
German football culture has always been very strict and dilligent that's why they traditionally produce such successful teams.
I recent years they produced more technical players but that hardworking attitude is still there.
You saw how klinsmann implemented this really strict fitness regime that allowed the Americans to outperform some stronger teams at the world cup.

You are missing the point - Real have just signed a 16 year old Norwegian - so if they are good enough they are old enough. The likes of Real were not remotely interested in Daehli - he's found his level - bottom of the Bundeslega.

I am not missing the point I think you are just being flippant.
The 16 year old is playing for reals b-team so far they are in Spanish league 3 if I am not mistaken. He may be a messi level talent and if he is he will force his way into the team, but that remains to be seen.
My point is that there are many talents at the big clubs who are more hyped than daehli and they aren't playing regular football. Chelsea has a bunch of them at the dvp team.
Most of the 19 years olds that are playing regularly are playing at smaller clubs. By the way i haven't seen anyone say he would be picked up by real Madrid. For the most part people said he's a big talent that one day at a bigger club. The operative word being one day. But Considering he is still a kid I don't think anyone can say what's his level as he isn't anywhere near his peak.

There are no 19 year olds playing games for barca or Madrid. So that's just a silly comment. Could have stayed at man u and sat at the bench like his mates from the dvp team there.
Instead hes gone to a club where he gets to play and develop. Starting again today against Dortmund.
He's playing a sort of 9.5 or 10 role with freedom to roam.
As for his comments about the training its fairly well known the Germans are very concerned with fitness.
I don't think we should get so defensive he's not only talking about Cardiff he spent years in Manchester before coming to city.
German football culture has always been very strict and dilligent that's why they traditionally produce such successful teams.
I recent years they produced more technical players but that hardworking attitude is still there.
You saw how klinsmann implemented this really strict fitness regime that allowed the Americans to outperform some stronger teams at the world cup.

You are missing the point - Real have just signed a 16 year old Norwegian - so if they are good enough they are old enough. The likes of Real were not remotely interested in Daehli - he's found his level - bottom of the Bundeslega.

I am not missing the point I think you are just being flippant.
The 16 year old is playing for reals b-team so far they are in Spanish league 3 if I am not mistaken. He may be a messi level talent and if he is he will force his way into the team, but that remains to be seen.
My point is that there are many talents at the big clubs who are more hyped than daehli and they aren't playing regular football. Chelsea has a bunch of them at the dvp team.
Most of the 19 years olds that are playing regularly are playing at smaller clubs. By the way i haven't seen anyone say he would be picked up by real Madrid. For the most part people said he's a big talent that one day at a bigger club. The operative word being one day. But Considering he is still a kid I don't think anyone can say what's his level as he isn't anywhere near his peak.

We shall have to agree to differ on the attributes of 19 year old Daehli. My view is that he is an over-hyped player by some people on this forum. He played in fits and starts for us - would be good for 20 minutes and then disappear completely in games. As you say it remains to be seen how good he may become in future - but if you take Aaron Ramsey for example at 19 years of age, there would be no doubt that he was / would be a real talent.

There are no 19 year olds playing games for barca or Madrid. So that's just a silly comment. Could have stayed at man u and sat at the bench like his mates from the dvp team there.
Instead hes gone to a club where he gets to play and develop. Starting again today against Dortmund.
He's playing a sort of 9.5 or 10 role with freedom to roam.
As for his comments about the training its fairly well known the Germans are very concerned with fitness.
I don't think we should get so defensive he's not only talking about Cardiff he spent years in Manchester before coming to city.
German football culture has always been very strict and dilligent that's why they traditionally produce such successful teams.
I recent years they produced more technical players but that hardworking attitude is still there.
You saw how klinsmann implemented this really strict fitness regime that allowed the Americans to outperform some stronger teams at the world cup.

You are missing the point - Real have just signed a 16 year old Norwegian - so if they are good enough they are old enough. The likes of Real were not remotely interested in Daehli - he's found his level - bottom of the Bundeslega.

I am not missing the point I think you are just being flippant.
The 16 year old is playing for reals b-team so far they are in Spanish league 3 if I am not mistaken. He may be a messi level talent and if he is he will force his way into the team, but that remains to be seen.
My point is that there are many talents at the big clubs who are more hyped than daehli and they aren't playing regular football. Chelsea has a bunch of them at the dvp team.
Most of the 19 years olds that are playing regularly are playing at smaller clubs. By the way i haven't seen anyone say he would be picked up by real Madrid. For the most part people said he's a big talent that one day at a bigger club. The operative word being one day. But Considering he is still a kid I don't think anyone can say what's his level as he isn't anywhere near his peak.

We shall have to agree to differ on the attributes of 19 year old Daehli. My view is that he is an over-hyped player by some people on this forum. He played in fits and starts for us - would be good for 20 minutes and then disappear completely in games. As you say it remains to be seen how good he may become in future - but if you take Aaron Ramsey for example at 19 years of age, there would be no doubt that he was / would be a real talent.

Agree to disagee.

We will see how long he thinks that. Freiburg got a pasting at home today and are now in the relegation zone.

We will see how long he thinks that. Freiburg got a pasting at home today and are now in the relegation zone.

Yes, against Dortmund. Daehli was once again one of the best players on the field. Go figure..

Lets be honest its all pretty much standard blurb from footballers. It;s all much better at this club than the last, its a step up and I may need time............,.

The Daehli debate is about as closed as the Whitts debate. You have an opinion and it isn't going to change much.....

My opinion - Good player, although not for us. Good attitude and will succeed, no idea when, but needs to be within the next two seasons as I can't recall a small guy who improved beyond 25.

Decent potential, but one of the most over hyped players I have ever seen.

The fact that he was available for only 2 million, yet not one single "big" club came in for him, says it all really.

Surely, if he was as good as some hype him up to be, all the clubs would be interested for a measly 2 million.....

Decent potential, but one of the most over hyped players I have ever seen.

The fact that he was available for only 2 million, yet not one single "big" club came in for him, says it all really.

Surely, if he was as good as some hype him up to be, all the clubs would be interested for a measly 2 million.....

His new coach is saying the same thing. Overhype. He needs time to play games, train and develop. He is 19, and can go as far as he wants. The technical ability is there, the rest is up to development and training hard. At least now he getting the game time to develop. I don't think you understand the difference between talent and skillfull player there Barry. At this moment in time you will struggle to find either in the City squad in my opinion.

Lets be honest its all pretty much standard blurb from footballers. It;s all much better at this club than the last, its a step up and I may need time............,.

The Daehli debate is about as closed as the Whitts debate. You have an opinion and it isn't going to change much.....

My opinion - Good player, although not for us. Good attitude and will succeed, no idea when, but needs to be within the next two seasons as I can't recall a small guy who improved beyond 25.

I don't think its the same as the whitts debate at all. Whitts is 30 year old man. We know what He can do and what he cant do and he's not likely to change anyone's opnions at this late stage in his career.
Dahlia has bags of potential but we don't really know what he is truly capable of yet.We know what he's capable at this point but its still early days. To be honestthat's what I find exciting. I love watching young players come into their own. Like I said before I'd rather we build a team around young talent if we are going to cost cut anyway. Buying these mediocre journey man does nothing for me. Doyle and mcalney I rate though.

Decent potential, but one of the most over hyped players I have ever seen.

The fact that he was available for only 2 million, yet not one single "big" club came in for him, says it all really.

Surely, if he was as good as some hype him up to be, all the clubs would be interested for a measly 2 million.....

he has his little gang of minions who use his sale to attack the club and manager on a regular basis.

daehli's problem was on the field, he showed flashes of brilliance, but was fundamentally a player who had potential, not one who was giving the manager no choice but to start him.

if his minions were right, as you say there would have been a long list of clubs better than freiburg who would have snapped him up for a supposed bargain £2m, they didnt bite, and thats all the evidence you need.

We will see how long he thinks that. Freiburg got a pasting at home today and are now in the relegation zone.

Yes, against Dortmund. Daehli was once again one of the best players on the field. Go figure..

Dortmund were bottom of the league going into the game. Maybe if he gets relegated again then he will get a move to a big club and we'll see what happens.

Freiburg's best player today by all accounts. At 19 he's obviously not the finished article and not suited to a struggling championship club, playing route one hoofball. If he's going to make the most of his potential and ability then the more technical Bundesliga will give him a better platform.
Will he turn into a top player? I think we may have to wait a few years for the answer to that one

This will come back to bite us without a doubt.

Some areas for improvement for CCFC?

- This is incredibly different. We train very much more. Much harder. Higher intensity. Much more professional in all areas. For me it's a bit strange to see it, but it's perfect. That's how I want it, says Dæhli

they lost 0-3 at home to the bottom team!!

Marshall and Hudson got relegated for separate clubs in a key area for teams. Please let's not pretend good players don't perform in poor teams.

if his minions were right, as you say there would have been a long list of clubs better than freiburg who would have snapped him up for a supposed bargain £2m, they didnt bite, and thats all the evidence you need.

Nail on head.

if his minions were right, as you say there would have been a long list of clubs better than freiburg who would have snapped him up for a supposed bargain £2m, they didnt bite, and thats all the evidence you need.

Nail on head.

Yeah because clubs never make mistakes on youngsters?
Pogba?
Not suggesting Daehli will be that but it happens and a lot.

Yeah because clubs never make mistakes on youngsters?
Pogba?
Not suggesting Daehli will be that but it happens and a lot.

The odd club will miss out on one youngster, but are you seriously suggesting that all the big clubs have coincidentally missed the supposed talents of Mats Daehli?!

Available at a supposed bargain of 2 million, yet not one single club of any real stature was interested.

Most over rated player at Cardiff for years.

Oh no but we are a team trying to stay in the championship but thought you knew that

Lets be honest its all pretty much standard blurb from footballers. It;s all much better at this club than the last, its a step up and I may need time............,.

The Daehli debate is about as closed as the Whitts debate. You have an opinion and it isn't going to change much.....

My opinion - Good player, although not for us. Good attitude and will succeed, no idea when, but needs to be within the next two seasons as I can't recall a small guy who improved beyond 25.

I don't think its the same as the whitts debate at all. Whitts is 30 year old man. We know what He can do and what he cant do and he's not likely to change anyone's opnions at this late stage in his career.
Dahlia has bags of potential but we don't really know what he is truly capable of yet.We know what he's capable at this point but its still early days. To be honestthat's what I find exciting. I love watching young players come into their own. Like I said before I'd rather we build a team around young talent if we are going to cost cut anyway. Buying these mediocre journey man does nothing for me. Doyle and mcalney I rate though.

I wasn't comparing them as players, but the entrenched attitudes to the players.

We have fans who want 10 get stuck in (lower league stuff) triers. We need about 7 of those and another 3 we take a chance with because they could do things the others can't. He was forced out because we could recoup money on him, all our saleable assets were.