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Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:05 am
Arts and Entertainment 2015
Brits with unpaid bills to be banned from going on holiday
Police will be exercising tighter controls over those with unpaid bills attempting to travel overseas, it has been revealed.
New legislation and tighter border controls are currently being used to identify those with outstanding TV license fees and council tax bills when they get to the airport.
Its remit could also be extended to other debts.
The UK Government’s E-Borders initiative and the Immigration Act 2014 make it easier for police and third parties to share information and carry out more in-depth checks on those going on holiday or attempting to leave Britain.
This was confirmed by the Head of Border Policing Command, Detective Superintendent Alan Crawford, who said: “There are information sharing protocols in place and we continue to work closely with our partners in law enforcement.
“We will always take action against those who have outstanding fines and/or warrants, and those who travel through our airports and seaports will undoubtedly interact with police and law enforcement as part of their journey.
“I would urge anyone who is currently subject to an outstanding fine or warrant and preparing to embark on a trip to address the matter urgently to ensure you are not inconvenienced and can fully enjoy your break.”
This new directive is currently being piloted in Scotland. Police Scotland have refused to confirm the number of people who have been caught out under these new measurements.
Anyone found guilty of evading the licence fee is given a criminal record and can be fined up to £1,000. People who fail to pay the fine will be jailed.
The Government’s E-Borders initiative was designed to track and monitor terrorists. However, like most anti-terrorism laws and directives, it is now being applied to the general population.
Its remit has also been extended to those who do not pay their TV licence. In Scotland, around 80 per cent of travellers are currently being monitored.
However, the UK Government plans to introduce blanket exit checks and wants this introduced by spring.
A spokesman for the Government said: “The police and immigration officers are jointly working to ensure the law is carried out to the letter. The Immigration Act 2014 requires transport carriers to collect passengers’ personal information and provide this to immigration and law enforcement authorities in advance of travel.
“Staff in the National Border Targeting Centre use this record of travellers passing through UK ports to conduct security checks on travellers, in order to identify persons of interest to the immigration authorities and police.”
Currently, those in Scotland who have refused to pay their fines or turn up in court are being prevented from leaving the country.
Border agency staff are tackling those with unpaid bills who are trying to exit the country and presenting them with their debts to be paid upfront.
If they refuse, they will be arrested.
An Insider for Glasgow Airport said in an interview with the Sunday Post: “Glasgow Airport is already rolling out the initiative.
“Police Scotland has detained a number of people who were planning to exit the country who have had warrants issued for non-payment of their TV licences and council tax. If a fine is outstanding, they are given an opportunity to pay it or they are arrested and prevented from leaving the country.”
Last year, around 200,000 were prosecuted for failing to pay their TV licence.
Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:09 am
Forever Blue wrote:Arts and Entertainment 2015
Brits with unpaid bills to be banned from going on holiday
Police will be exercising tighter controls over those with unpaid bills attempting to travel overseas, it has been revealed.
New legislation and tighter border controls are currently being used to identify those with outstanding TV license fees and council tax bills when they get to the airport.
Its remit could also be extended to other debts.
The UK Government’s E-Borders initiative and the Immigration Act 2014 make it easier for police and third parties to share information and carry out more in-depth checks on those going on holiday or attempting to leave Britain.
This was confirmed by the Head of Border Policing Command, Detective Superintendent Alan Crawford, who said: “There are information sharing protocols in place and we continue to work closely with our partners in law enforcement.
“We will always take action against those who have outstanding fines and/or warrants, and those who travel through our airports and seaports will undoubtedly interact with police and law enforcement as part of their journey.
“I would urge anyone who is currently subject to an outstanding fine or warrant and preparing to embark on a trip to address the matter urgently to ensure you are not inconvenienced and can fully enjoy your break.”
This new directive is currently being piloted in Scotland. Police Scotland have refused to confirm the number of people who have been caught out under these new measurements.
Anyone found guilty of evading the licence fee is given a criminal record and can be fined up to £1,000. People who fail to pay the fine will be jailed.
The Government’s E-Borders initiative was designed to track and monitor terrorists. However, like most anti-terrorism laws and directives, it is now being applied to the general population.
Its remit has also been extended to those who do not pay their TV licence. In Scotland, around 80 per cent of travellers are currently being monitored.
However, the UK Government plans to introduce blanket exit checks and wants this introduced by spring.
A spokesman for the Government said: “The police and immigration officers are jointly working to ensure the law is carried out to the letter. The Immigration Act 2014 requires transport carriers to collect passengers’ personal information and provide this to immigration and law enforcement authorities in advance of travel.
“Staff in the National Border Targeting Centre use this record of travellers passing through UK ports to conduct security checks on travellers, in order to identify persons of interest to the immigration authorities and police.”
Currently, those in Scotland who have refused to pay their fines or turn up in court are being prevented from leaving the country.
Border agency staff are tackling those with unpaid bills who are trying to exit the country and presenting them with their debts to be paid upfront.
If they refuse, they will be arrested.
An Insider for Glasgow Airport said in an interview with the Sunday Post: “Glasgow Airport is already rolling out the initiative.
“Police Scotland has detained a number of people who were planning to exit the country who have had warrants issued for non-payment of their TV licences and council tax. If a fine is outstanding, they are given an opportunity to pay it or they are arrested and prevented from leaving the country.”
Last year, around 200,000 were prosecuted for failing to pay their TV licence.
technicaly you can't stop anyone travel in eu as there are not ment to be borders
Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:14 am
They can't stop British born jihadists Muslims leaving this country to take part in beheadings and mass killings, yet they want to stop people with unpaid fines and bills from traveling abroad for a holiday? Got to laugh.
Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:17 am
mr'mogreenz wrote:They can't stop British born jihadists Muslims leaving this country to take part in beheadings and mass killings, yet they want to stop people with unpaid fines and bills from traveling abroad for a holiday? Got to laugh.
Thats how pathetic it all is,they need to get a life the people who come up with these pathetic ideas/laws
Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:18 am
Wez, Your prob right,but they would find a way. They need to look at the real criminals
Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:26 am
Forever Blue wrote:Wez, Your prob right,but they would find a way. They need to look at the real criminals
Totalitary state is coming be like north Korea one day!
Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:27 am
pembroke allan wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Wez, Your prob right,but they would find a way. They need to look at the real criminals
Totalitary state is coming be like north Korea one day!

Allan, it is for us normal citizens.
Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:34 am
In Saudi Arabia you can't leave the country if you have an unpaid speeding ticket.
In a way it is a good thing.
Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:19 am
It's for warrants and court fines, NOT for unpaid bills
Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:09 am
pembroke allan wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Wez, Your prob right,but they would find a way. They need to look at the real criminals[/quote
Totalitary state is coming be like north Korea one day!

Were already more like Korea than most people think!
Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:17 am
People need to get their priorities right. It's taking the p to go abroad on holiday rather than paying your debts. Especially unpaid legally applied fines. Why do people think that they can ignore it just because they don't like it? I'd stick them in a cell until they pay too
Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:21 am
Incredible, surely they have more important things to do.
Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:24 am
I love it when people trapse out the same old .... "Go and catch some REAL criminals". Why can't people differentiate between civil and criminal matters.
There are enforcement departments whose job it is to deal with terrorism and major crime. There are them enforcement agencies that deal with civil matters like this.
By all means complain when the NCA and Special Branch are not stopping terrorists but don't moan because other departments are trying collect monies and fines THAT COULD FUND the fight against terrorism.
These people are taking holidays with monies that should now be in the public purse and paying for the services many on her are complaining about.
Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:13 am
Caerphillyblue1927 wrote:Incredible, surely they have more important things to do.
100% they are ,biut the the British Citizen is an easy target for them, look at speed cameras every where now.
Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:21 am
No more holidays for you then Annis
Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:26 am
Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:33 am
bluebird58 wrote:People need to get their priorities right. It's taking the p to go abroad on holiday rather than paying your debts. Especially unpaid legally applied fines. Why do people think that they can ignore it just because they don't like it? I'd stick them in a cell until they pay too

Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:34 am
Igovernor wrote:It's for warrants and court fines, NOT for unpaid bills

Gov - it will eventually cover all court and magistrate fines (in arrears), those who owe the wobbly and other Govt benefits (in arrears), council tax (in arrears) and the CSA (as was) want their slice of cake on fathers!
Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:09 pm
mr'mogreenz wrote:They can't stop British born jihadists Muslims leaving this country to take part in beheadings and mass killings, yet they want to stop people with unpaid fines and bills from traveling abroad for a holiday? Got to laugh.
The latest Jihadi's went to Syria, fought alongside that Jihadi John, came all the way back through Europe and then only got stopped by counter-terrorism at Dover. They could have killed or massacred numerous people on the way back through Europe yet got all the way to Dover. They don't want to stop terrorists because there's no money in stopping terrorists. In fact, its a high cost investing money into catching them. Instead they'd just rather put the costs on the average person who is a law abiding member of society. Its an absolute joke.
Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:15 pm
Wayne S wrote:These people are taking holidays with monies that should now be in the public purse and paying for the services many on her are complaining about.
What if someone has a holiday booked a year in advance, loses their job and then suddenly ends up in debt because of a change in circumstances? Should they still not be allowed to take up that holiday even though they have paid for it in advance? If you're suggesting they shouldn't that is beyond ridiculous. There's also a risk this extends further and further much like the surveillance society that has been built around us. First it was CCTV everywhere, then speed cameras, then its ISP control and now they want even more control over internet communications especially in regard to VoIP. The UK is becoming a hypocritical joke of a country quick to point the fingers at everyone else whilst banding about nonsense that this country, well the west as a whole, is somehow superior. The sad thing is, the majority of people lap it up and buy into it.
Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:26 pm
Why should I pay extra council taxes etc to subsidise people who choose not to pay so that they can go on exotic holidays.
Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:27 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:Why should I pay extra council taxes etc to subsidise people who choose not to pay so that they can go on exotic holidays.
That's a strong assumption to make. What about people who book their holidays in advance and then suddenly end up in debt through a change of circumstances?
Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:40 pm
blueminati wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Why should I pay extra council taxes etc to subsidise people who choose not to pay so that they can go on exotic holidays.
That's a strong assumption to make. What about people who book their holidays in advance and then suddenly end up in debt through a change of circumstances?
May affect a very small number of people. You have to be a few months in arrears before authorities take legal action. Even then you have to wait for the case to be heard and a county court judgement to be made. Most people would pay a deposit for their holiday and pay the balance a couple of months prior to going. It would take more than that to get a CCJ issued. If I paid a deposit today for a holiday in August and lost my job next week, I would sacrifice my holiday deposit rather than run up debts and CCJ's and non payment of utility bills etc. Matter of getting your priorities right.
Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:45 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:blueminati wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Why should I pay extra council taxes etc to subsidise people who choose not to pay so that they can go on exotic holidays.
That's a strong assumption to make. What about people who book their holidays in advance and then suddenly end up in debt through a change of circumstances?
May affect a very small number of people. You have to be a few months in arrears before authorities take legal action. Even then you have to wait for the case to be heard and a county court judgement to be made. Most people would pay a deposit for their holiday and pay the balance a couple of months prior to going. It would take more than that to get a CCJ issued. If I paid a deposit today for a holiday in August and lost my job next week, I would sacrifice my holiday deposit rather than run up debts and CCJ's and non payment of utility bills etc. Matter of getting your priorities right.
True, but some people's businesses go completely through and its not as simple as you make it out. Although I do appreciate this will be for the minority of people.
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