' CARDIFF CITY TO FIGHT ALL THE WAY '

Tuesday 3rd February 2015

By Terry Phillips

Vincent Tan to fight Langston all the way as club refuse to meet payment deadline ahead of court action

The Bluebirds are refusing to pay the outstanding sum of money to Langston over loan notes and believe the legal battle will provide the answers they are seeking about the identity of the Swiss based company

Cardiff City are ready to take their battle over an unpaid £6million-plus bill to Langston to the High Court after demanding to know exactly who their creditors are.

The Bluebirds are refusing to pay the outstanding sum of money to Langston over loan notes and believe the legal battle will provide the answers they are seeking about the identity of the Swiss based company.

Langston demanded the next instalment of a payment schedule by Friday, before putting that time scale back to Monday, but we understand the money has not been forthcoming from the Bluebirds’ hierarchy.

They are happy for the matter to proceed down the legal route in their quest to find out more about Langston.

Cardiff chairman Mehmet Dalman says: “It is bad governance not knowing who is the owner of a debt we are trying to honour.

“Right at the moment I want to know who it is.”

Langston are expected to file papers at the High Court asking for a summary judgement.

Dalman confirmed the money has not been paid.

Club president and former Cardiff owner Sam Hammam , who is due to arrive in the UK over the next couple of days, has been widely seen as Langston’s representative.

The original debt of £24m was in the form of loan notes issued by The Langston Corporation when Hammam was owner of the club.

In 2013 Cardiff and Langston announced ‘an amicable resolution’ to the historical debt issue, with Hammam getting a role with the club as part of the settlement and his representative Michael Filiou taking a seat on the board of directors.

When the matter between the two parties originally went to the High Court in 2008, Mr Justice Briggs stated that, in effect, ‘Hamman was Langston’.

Three years ago the two parties reached agreement on a £22m settlement, to be paid in the form of a £15m up front sum, followed by £7m in £250,000 quarterly instalments over seven years.

That payment schedule started last year, but more than £6m is still outstanding.

The club, through Dalman, have written to Langston to ask more about the company and the new stand-off means the Bluebirds are happy for the matter to return to court in order to find a resolution.

The normal Sam lovers are very quiet on this sublect at the moment ??,

Wez the quarterly payments have been paid upto now
the next one was due end of january I believe
if you go by the figures stated
I wonder what has happened for payment to be with held now

The normal Sam lovers are very quiet on this sublect at the moment ??,

Wez, I'm the one who has made it a sticky yet its virtually same story repeated 3 times in one week.
I remember you saying Langston will never get paid,yet theyve had already more than anyone said they would off

Plus did you know Ridsdale got Langston to offer a deal to Tan a few years ago at half the total money? Tan turned it down and ending up paying more

I remember Tan not wanting to pay Dave Jones,Peter Risdale,some of our CEO'S and they all ending up getting all of what they wanted. Plus watch out for Ole and now even Malky when he is cleared.

This will be another excuse not to make us Debt Free as promised years ago.

A message for Tan, football is not for you

I believe this has all come about because Sam was involved in some way about a consortium takeover that was spoke about not long ago.

Yes Sam said he was not leading a consortium but that does not mean he was not involved.

I believe this has all come about because Sam was involved in some way about a consortium takeover that was spoke about not long ago.

Yes Sam said he was not leading a consortium but that does not mean he was not involved.

Ian, Carl and I said this earlier,plus it will be another reason why he wont make us Debt Free as promised.

The Tan Circus continues with his few band of Red Arse Lickers left,Very Sad.

The normal Sam lovers are very quiet on this sublect at the moment ??,

Wez, I'm the one who has made it a sticky yet its virtually same story repeated 3 times in one week.
I remember you saying Langston will never get paid,yet theyve had already more than anyone said they would off

Plus did you know Ridsdale got Langston to offer a deal to Tan a few years ago at half the total money? Tan turned it down and ending up paying more

I remember Tan not wanting to pay Dave Jones,Peter Risdale,some of our CEO'S and they all ending up getting all of what they wanted. Plus watch out for Ole and now even Malky when he is cleared.

This will be another excuse not to make us Debt Free as promised years ago.

A message for Tan, football is not for you

I remember the risdale 10 million offer wasn't it?

Wonder how much tan would make on 10 million over 3 years
probably enough to pay langstone 22 million I wouldnt wonder

Cardiff chairman Mehmet Dalman says: “It is bad governance not knowing who is the owner of a debt we are trying to honour.

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I agree with you 100% Mehmet, so why the hell did the club pay £15m to Langston in 2013 and what exactly has changed since that payment was made to bring us to the doorstep of the High Court again over this issue.

Some people have no idea how these billionaires use there money to make money
we are not talking about leaving it in a building society earning .05%

The normal Sam lovers are very quiet on this sublect at the moment ??,

Wez, I'm the one who has made it a sticky yet its virtually same story repeated 3 times in one week.
I remember you saying Langston will never get paid,yet theyve had already more than anyone said they would off

Plus did you know Ridsdale got Langston to offer a deal to Tan a few years ago at half the total money? Tan turned it down and ending up paying more

I remember Tan not wanting to pay Dave Jones,Peter Risdale,some of our CEO'S and they all ending up getting all of what they wanted. Plus watch out for Ole and now even Malky when he is cleared.

This will be another excuse not to make us Debt Free as promised years ago.

A message for Tan, football is not for you

I remember the risdale 10 million offer wasn't it?

Yes it was and look who looks the idiot now, Tan has paid over £16million already

Cardiff chairman Mehmet Dalman says: “It is bad governance not knowing who is the owner of a debt we are trying to honour.

.

I agree with you 100% Mehmet, so why the hell did the club pay £15m to Langston in 2013 and what exactly has changed since that payment was made to bring us to the doorstep of the High Court again over this issue.

15 million and what they paid already does my that take it over 75% of the debt paid off ? What does that mean with law in courts Anyone know ?

Wez the quarterly payments have been paid upto now
the next one was due end of january I believe
if you go by the figures stated
I wonder what has happened for payment to be with held now

Steve as you say it is what you believe ! So you are saying you don't know.


I didn't see or hear you questioning Sam Hammam when you were sat in conversation with him in the pub before the Bolton away game.

In fact I would say that you were very much in favour of Sam returning to the club to have a bigger role than he already has.

Cardiff chairman Mehmet Dalman says: “It is bad governance not knowing who is the owner of a debt we are trying to honour.

.

I agree with you 100% Mehmet, so why the hell did the club pay £15m to Langston in 2013 and what exactly has changed since that payment was made to bring us to the doorstep of the High Court again over this issue.

Gary £16million thats a hell of a lot of money Tan has paid to a company,he now decides he wants to know who they are


Plus a £million to check them out and found nothing Tans mad circus gets madder

Wez the quarterly payments have been paid upto now
the next one was due end of january I believe
if you go by the figures stated
I wonder what has happened for payment to be with held now

Steve as you say it is what you believe ! So you are saying you don't know.


I didn't see or hear you questioning Sam Hammam when you were sat in conversation with him in the pub before the Bolton away game.

In fact I would say that you were very much in favour of Sam returning to the club to have a bigger role than he already has.

In fact Steve was all over Sam only a couple of months ago and having a free drink of him

Wez, by the way,hows your new source with your new info?

Wez, by the way,hows your new source with your new info?

As a humorist, maybe Langston is Wonga (joke...no libel).

What was the interest rate on the debt, I remember reading a number a while back that was very high?

My view, they should have done due-diligence more thoroughly before buying.
All Tan had to say was "who is Langston" before buying.

But he was in a rush and gambled on the Blackpool play-off.

Personally I'd love to know who Langston really is, not a bad idea to go to court. If the club lose I guess they just have to pay what they already are plus some expenses.

Wez, by the way,hows your new source with your new info?

As a humorist, maybe Langston is Wonga (joke...no libel).

What was the interest rate on the debt, I remember reading a number a while back that was very high?

My view, they should have done due-diligence more thoroughly before buying.
All Tan had to say was "who is Langston" before buying.

But he was in a rush and gambled on the Blackpool play-off.

I think it was high? I cant rem,but it was high.

Tan said he was never going to pay Langston a penny,then spent over a £million having due-diligence done on langston,then paid £16million when Langston would of taken £10million and now Tan wants to know who Langston is, THIS HAS TO BE THE JOKE OF THE CENTURY OR THE BIGGEST CLOWN IN FOOTBALL, YOU COULD NOT MAKE THIS UP

Hear we go again so its f*cking personal again
and not quite true as usual

yes I was one of many who had a FREE drink from sam as he put a free bar on for the whole bus
I was not as stated all over sam what ever that means
but I did talk to him on the subject of getting our blue back
I asked him as he was a life president and didnt have to answer to tan would he want to become a spokesman for us fans in our persuit of getting our colours and badge back
if that constitutes being all over him and wanting him more involved then yes I admit I asked him that
What that has got to do with this thread I dont know
and im still waiting for some one in the know to confirm who put this whole story of a court case and langstone not getting paid into the media hence starting the circus off again

Hear we go again so its f*cking personal again
and not quite true as usual

yes I was one of many who had a FREE drink from sam as he put a free bar on for the whole bus
I was not as stated all over sam what ever that means
but I did talk to him on the subject of getting our blue back
I asked him as he was a life president and didnt have to answer to tan would he want to become a spokesman for us fans in our persuit of getting our colours and badge back
if that constitutes being all over him and wanting him more involved then yes I admit I asked him that
What that has got to do with this thread I dont know
and im still waiting for some one in the know to confirm who put this whole story of a court case and langstone not getting paid into the media hence starting the circus off again

Steve,
Dalman contacted Terry on Tans behalf and had it put out

Wez, by the way,hows your new source with your new info?

As good as some of your whoppers over the years annis lol

Wez, by the way,hows your new source with your new info?

As good as some of your whoppers over the years annis lol

Show me a couple Wez?

Wez, you started this topic,calling Sam lovers,yet you seem to have gone quite on the subject now,that you look a fool like your master Tan

Wez, by the way,hows your new source with your new info?

As a humorist, maybe Langston is Wonga (joke...no libel).

What was the interest rate on the debt, I remember reading a number a while back that was very high?

My view, they should have done due-diligence more thoroughly before buying.
All Tan had to say was "who is Langston" before buying.

But he was in a rush and gambled on the Blackpool play-off.

I think it was high? I cant rem,but it was high.

Tan said he was never going to pay Langston a penny,then spent over a £million having due-diligence done on langston,then paid £16million when Langston would of taken £10million and now Tan wants to know who Langston is, THIS HAS TO BE THE JOKE OF THE CENTURY OR THE BIGGEST CLOWN IN FOOTBALL, YOU COULD NOT MAKE THIS UP

Buying into a new industry. Advice is simple, listen to the experts and understand how the industry operates. Then see if the opportunity is real.

I mentioned this in another post, Tan's weakness is himself. In some ways he is worse than George W.Bush. At least GWB surrounded himself with people who knew what they were doing, and he LISTENED to them. We might not agree with what they proposed to him, but they knew the strategy they desired.

Tan's legacy is simple...
"I was successful in Asia because I KNOW Asia", "I have been unsuccessful in Football, because I DON'T LISTEN!"

But that said, I think he is doing right now with the cost cuts.
If I were Tan I'd just LISTEN to Mr.Dalman he understands M&A.

Carl the reason I said I believe is becouse no one knows when the first quarterly payment was due
but it was you that told me sam sorry langstone had been paid 15 mill in july 2013 and 1 mill in quarterly payments before they were stopped

Wez, by the way,hows your new source with your new info?

As a humorist, maybe Langston is Wonga (joke...no libel).

What was the interest rate on the debt, I remember reading a number a while back that was very high?

My view, they should have done due-diligence more thoroughly before buying.
All Tan had to say was "who is Langston" before buying.

But he was in a rush and gambled on the Blackpool play-off.

I think it was high? I cant rem,but it was high.

Tan said he was never going to pay Langston a penny,then spent over a £million having due-diligence done on langston,then paid £16million when Langston would of taken £10million and now Tan wants to know who Langston is, THIS HAS TO BE THE JOKE OF THE CENTURY OR THE BIGGEST CLOWN IN FOOTBALL, YOU COULD NOT MAKE THIS UP

Buying into a new industry. Advice is simple, listen to the experts and understand how the industry operates. Then see if the opportunity is real.

I mentioned this in another post, Tan's weakness is himself. In some ways he is worse than George W.Bush. At least GWB surrounded himself with people who knew what they were doing, and he LISTENED to them. We might not agree with what they proposed to him, but they knew the strategy they desired.

Tan's legacy is simple...
"I was successful in Asia because I KNOW Asia", "I have been unsuccessful in Football, because I DON'T LISTEN!"

But that said, I think he is doing right now with the cost cuts.
If I were Tan I'd just LISTEN to Mr.Dalman he understands M&A.

Hear we go again so its f*cking personal again
and not quite true as usual

yes I was one of many who had a FREE drink from sam as he put a free bar on for the whole bus
I was not as stated all over sam what ever that means
but I did talk to him on the subject of getting our blue back
I asked him as he was a life president and didnt have to answer to tan would he want to become a spokesman for us fans in our persuit of getting our colours and badge back
if that constitutes being all over him and wanting him more involved then yes I admit I asked him that
What that has got to do with this thread I dont know
and im still waiting for some one in the know to confirm who put this whole story of a court case and langstone not getting paid into the media hence starting the circus off again

Steve,
Dalman contacted Terry on Tans behalf and had it put out

cant understand what benifet tan could gain by bringing it into the media
however if you believe your informant annis who am I to question it

Wez, by the way,hows your new source with your new info?

As a humorist, maybe Langston is Wonga (joke...no libel).

What was the interest rate on the debt, I remember reading a number a while back that was very high?

My view, they should have done due-diligence more thoroughly before buying.
All Tan had to say was "who is Langston" before buying.

But he was in a rush and gambled on the Blackpool play-off.

I think it was high? I cant rem,but it was high.

Tan said he was never going to pay Langston a penny,then spent over a £million having due-diligence done on langston,then paid
£16million when Langston would of taken £10million and now Tan wants to know who Langston is, THIS HAS TO BE THE
JOKE OF THE CENTURY OR THE BIGGEST CLOWN IN FOOTBALL, YOU COULD NOT MAKE THIS UP

you think it was high more than 7 % high

Hear we go again so its f*cking personal again
and not quite true as usual

yes I was one of many who had a FREE drink from sam as he put a free bar on for the whole bus
I was not as stated all over sam what ever that means
but I did talk to him on the subject of getting our blue back
I asked him as he was a life president and didnt have to answer to tan would he want to become a spokesman for us fans in our persuit of getting our colours and badge back
if that constitutes being all over him and wanting him more involved then yes I admit I asked him that
What that has got to do with this thread I dont know
and im still waiting for some one in the know to confirm who put this whole story of a court case and langstone not getting paid into the media hence starting the circus off again

Steve,
Dalman contacted Terry on Tans behalf and had it put out

cant understand what benifet tan could gain by bringing it into the media
however if you believe your informant annis who am I to question it

I got it direct from the media Steve

Wez, by the way,hows your new source with your new info?

As a humorist, maybe Langston is Wonga (joke...no libel).

What was the interest rate on the debt, I remember reading a number a while back that was very high?

My view, they should have done due-diligence more thoroughly before buying.
All Tan had to say was "who is Langston" before buying.

But he was in a rush and gambled on the Blackpool play-off.

I think it was high? I cant rem,but it was high.

Tan said he was never going to pay Langston a penny,then spent over a £million having due-diligence done on langston,then paid £16million when Langston would of taken £10million and now Tan wants to know who Langston is, THIS HAS TO BE THE JOKE OF THE CENTURY OR THE BIGGEST CLOWN IN FOOTBALL, YOU COULD NOT MAKE THIS UP

Buying into a new industry. Advice is simple, listen to the experts and understand how the industry operates. Then see if the opportunity is real.

I mentioned this in another post, Tan's weakness is himself. In some ways he is worse than George W.Bush. At least GWB surrounded himself with people who knew what they were doing, and he LISTENED to them. We might not agree with what they proposed to him, but they knew the strategy they desired.

Tan's legacy is simple...
"I was successful in Asia because I KNOW Asia", "I have been unsuccessful in Football, because I DON'T LISTEN!"

But that said, I think he is doing right now with the cost cuts.
If I were Tan I'd just LISTEN to Mr.Dalman he understands M&A.

Have the club ever shared a strategy with supporters?
I don't mean verbal bullshit, but a well thought out plan, with mission, goals, targets and a vision?