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what Russell Slade will never be able to bring to the table

Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:43 am

The big difference between Slade and Ole was never more obvious than in this transfer window.

Whilst Ole's reputation was enough to secure first team or International players, Slade has struggled to bring in hardly any recognised talent.

Sure he has signed what should be a half decent striker, albeit untried at this level but pound for pound mid level Premier League players are bound to be better than those in the lower leagues.

I already know the arguement that we need players willing to get stuck in and do their jobs but in fact you can usually expect that as a given with regular top level players, otherwise they wouldn't be top players would they.

For me there's a world of difference between having a manager who players recognise (whoever that is) and a manager who's a big name or has achieved some success in the game.

Could this also be the reason why some of our existing players just aren't doing their stuff at the moment.

Do they really trust and believe in Slades ability to take them forward?

Re: what Russell Slade will never be able to bring to the ta

Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:52 am

Probably the biggest reason VT appointed RS in the first place, a lower profile manager, hiring lower profile, lower priced, but harder working & more hungry players. I remember the higher achy being critical of to many prima donna players in Dave Jones final season at City. Had we gone full circle regarding this issue?

Re: what Russell Slade will never be able to bring to the ta

Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:43 am

We'll never know if Ole was the decisive factor in attracting players to Cardiff or not, as he brought a lot of players in he'd already worked with, especially the Norwegians and Macheda and money didn't seem so important to him!

He also had no idea how all these players would fit into a team set up, whereas Slade has had to lose a lot of his squad and offer/spend pennies by comparison!

Re: what Russell Slade will never be able to bring to the ta

Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:04 pm

I think Slade has done OK with the transfers, clearly had to reduce the wage bill by a chunk and time will tell about his signings.

Its his managerial ability thats more worrying.

Re: what Russell Slade will never be able to bring to the ta

Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:15 pm

Slade has brought in Bargain players. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Re: what Russell Slade will never be able to bring to the ta

Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:57 pm

Skewett wrote:The big difference between Slade and Ole was never more obvious than in this transfer window.

Whilst Ole's reputation was enough to secure first team or International players, Slade has struggled to bring in hardly any recognised talent.

Sure he has signed what should be a half decent striker, albeit untried at this level but pound for pound mid level Premier League players are bound to be better than those in the lower leagues.

I already know the arguement that we need players willing to get stuck in and do their jobs but in fact you can usually expect that as a given with regular top level players, otherwise they wouldn't be top players would they.

For me there's a world of difference between having a manager who players recognise (whoever that is) and a manager who's a big name or has achieved some success in the game.

Could this also be the reason why some of our existing players just aren't doing their stuff at the moment.

Do they really trust and believe in Slades ability to take them forward?



Is that some sort of joke???

If not your seriosuly deluded

His brief was to get rid of the overpaid players and sign players on the cheap

We weren't ever in the market for highly paid internationals this window and won't be for some time so how is it fair to compare signings of the previous manager and this one when their spending powers are completely different??

Re: what Russell Slade will never be able to bring to the ta

Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:06 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:The big difference between Slade and Ole was never more obvious than in this transfer window.

Whilst Ole's reputation was enough to secure first team or International players, Slade has struggled to bring in hardly any recognised talent.

Sure he has signed what should be a half decent striker, albeit untried at this level but pound for pound mid level Premier League players are bound to be better than those in the lower leagues.

I already know the arguement that we need players willing to get stuck in and do their jobs but in fact you can usually expect that as a given with regular top level players, otherwise they wouldn't be top players would they.

For me there's a world of difference between having a manager who players recognise (whoever that is) and a manager who's a big name or has achieved some success in the game.

Could this also be the reason why some of our existing players just aren't doing their stuff at the moment.

Do they really trust and believe in Slades ability to take them forward?



Is that some sort of joke???

If not your seriosuly deluded

His brief was to get rid of the overpaid players and sign players on the cheap

We weren't ever in the market for highly paid internationals this window and won't be for some time so how is it fair to compare signings of the previous manager and this one when their spending powers are completely different??


I get fed up of hearing fans spouting club policy as if they were at board meetings. Selling players to reduce wages has never been released as club policy.

Why would Tan take a chance on us going down because we take his ability to recoup his money with us.

Re: what Russell Slade will never be able to bring to the ta

Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:17 pm

Skewett wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:The big difference between Slade and Ole was never more obvious than in this transfer window.

Whilst Ole's reputation was enough to secure first team or International players, Slade has struggled to bring in hardly any recognised talent.

Sure he has signed what should be a half decent striker, albeit untried at this level but pound for pound mid level Premier League players are bound to be better than those in the lower leagues.

I already know the arguement that we need players willing to get stuck in and do their jobs but in fact you can usually expect that as a given with regular top level players, otherwise they wouldn't be top players would they.

For me there's a world of difference between having a manager who players recognise (whoever that is) and a manager who's a big name or has achieved some success in the game.

Could this also be the reason why some of our existing players just aren't doing their stuff at the moment.

Do they really trust and believe in Slades ability to take them forward?



Is that some sort of joke???

If not your seriosuly deluded

His brief was to get rid of the overpaid players and sign players on the cheap

We weren't ever in the market for highly paid internationals this window and won't be for some time so how is it fair to compare signings of the previous manager and this one when their spending powers are completely different??


I get fed up of hearing fans spouting club policy as if they were at board meetings. Selling players to reduce wages has never been released as club policy.

Why would Tan take a chance on us going down because we take his ability to recoup his money with us.

I think you'll find that it's nothing to do with club policy, with the club having no choice but to reduce the wages at the club, as we'd otherwise fall foul of the Financial Fair Play Rules and be penalised next season!

Don't see what this last post has to do with your O.P. though!

Re: what Russell Slade will never be able to bring to the ta

Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:19 pm

Yes, because signing high profile players with big money worked so well in the last two transfer windows. :lol: :lol:

Re: what Russell Slade will never be able to bring to the ta

Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:37 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:Yes, because signing high profile players with big money worked so well in the last two transfer windows. :lol: :lol:


Exactly. :thumbright:

Re: what Russell Slade will never be able to bring to the ta

Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:00 pm

Skewett wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:The big difference between Slade and Ole was never more obvious than in this transfer window.

Whilst Ole's reputation was enough to secure first team or International players, Slade has struggled to bring in hardly any recognised talent.

Sure he has signed what should be a half decent striker, albeit untried at this level but pound for pound mid level Premier League players are bound to be better than those in the lower leagues.

I already know the arguement that we need players willing to get stuck in and do their jobs but in fact you can usually expect that as a given with regular top level players, otherwise they wouldn't be top players would they.

For me there's a world of difference between having a manager who players recognise (whoever that is) and a manager who's a big name or has achieved some success in the game.

Could this also be the reason why some of our existing players just aren't doing their stuff at the moment.

Do they really trust and believe in Slades ability to take them forward?



Is that some sort of joke???

If not your seriosuly deluded

His brief was to get rid of the overpaid players and sign players on the cheap

We weren't ever in the market for highly paid internationals this window and won't be for some time so how is it fair to compare signings of the previous manager and this one when their spending powers are completely different??


I get fed up of hearing fans spouting club policy as if they were at board meetings. Selling players to reduce wages has never been released as club policy.

Why would Tan take a chance on us going down because we take his ability to recoup his money with us.


If you can't see that's the way the club is going then you are even more deluded that I first thought

The fact that slade has stated that we are no longer doing business at the level wee were because it's unsustainable sort of speaks volumes as to what club policy has become

He has publicly stated that he ended to offload many players before he could add any it's common knowledge

And my point to the other poster who said he didn't get my point well my point was f*cking obvious you cannot compare the signings of a manager with a £20m budget in the championship to one with a £2m budget it's nonsensical and purely idiotic

Re: what Russell Slade will never be able to bring to the ta

Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:03 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:Yes, because signing high profile players with big money worked so well in the last two transfer windows. :lol: :lol:


Exactly they missed my point

Point was purely that you cannot compare a managers signings with £20m to spend to that of a man who only had £2m the comparison is impossible

He is probably correct in saying some players came here because of OGS but they also came cps of the money we were paying them

If OGS was still here and he had a £2m budget for transfer would he be able to entice internationals to sign for city on a quarter of what he paid them before? Would he f**k

Re: what Russell Slade will never be able to bring to the ta

Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:45 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:The big difference between Slade and Ole was never more obvious than in this transfer window.

Whilst Ole's reputation was enough to secure first team or International players, Slade has struggled to bring in hardly any recognised talent.

Sure he has signed what should be a half decent striker, albeit untried at this level but pound for pound mid level Premier League players are bound to be better than those in the lower leagues.

I already know the arguement that we need players willing to get stuck in and do their jobs but in fact you can usually expect that as a given with regular top level players, otherwise they wouldn't be top players would they.

For me there's a world of difference between having a manager who players recognise (whoever that is) and a manager who's a big name or has achieved some success in the game.

Could this also be the reason why some of our existing players just aren't doing their stuff at the moment.

Do they really trust and believe in Slades ability to take them forward?



Is that some sort of joke???

If not your seriosuly deluded

His brief was to get rid of the overpaid players and sign players on the cheap

We weren't ever in the market for highly paid internationals this window and won't be for some time so how is it fair to compare signings of the previous manager and this one when their spending powers are completely different??


I get fed up of hearing fans spouting club policy as if they were at board meetings. Selling players to reduce wages has never been released as club policy.

Why would Tan take a chance on us going down because we take his ability to recoup his money with us.


If you can't see that's the way the club is going then you are even more deluded that I first thought

The fact that slade has stated that we are no longer doing business at the level wee were because it's unsustainable sort of speaks volumes as to what club policy has become

He has publicly stated that he ended to offload many players before he could add any it's common knowledge

And my point to the other poster who said he didn't get my point well my point was f*cking obvious you cannot compare the signings of a manager with a £20m budget in the championship to one with a £2m budget it's nonsensical and purely idiotic

What poster said they didn't get your point? :?

Re: what Russell Slade will never be able to bring to the ta

Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:12 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:The big difference between Slade and Ole was never more obvious than in this transfer window.

Whilst Ole's reputation was enough to secure first team or International players, Slade has struggled to bring in hardly any recognised talent.

Sure he has signed what should be a half decent striker, albeit untried at this level but pound for pound mid level Premier League players are bound to be better than those in the lower leagues.

I already know the arguement that we need players willing to get stuck in and do their jobs but in fact you can usually expect that as a given with regular top level players, otherwise they wouldn't be top players would they.

For me there's a world of difference between having a manager who players recognise (whoever that is) and a manager who's a big name or has achieved some success in the game.

Could this also be the reason why some of our existing players just aren't doing their stuff at the moment.

Do they really trust and believe in Slades ability to take them forward?



Is that some sort of joke???

If not your seriosuly deluded

His brief was to get rid of the overpaid players and sign players on the cheap

We weren't ever in the market for highly paid internationals this window and won't be for some time so how is it fair to compare signings of the previous manager and this one when their spending powers are completely different??


I get fed up of hearing fans spouting club policy as if they were at board meetings. Selling players to reduce wages has never been released as club policy.

Why would Tan take a chance on us going down because we take his ability to recoup his money with us.


If you can't see that's the way the club is going then you are even more deluded that I first thought

The fact that slade has stated that we are no longer doing business at the level wee were because it's unsustainable sort of speaks volumes as to what club policy has become

He has publicly stated that he ended to offload many players before he could add any it's common knowledge

And my point to the other poster who said he didn't get my point well my point was f*cking obvious you cannot compare the signings of a manager with a £20m budget in the championship to one with a £2m budget it's nonsensical and purely idiotic

What poster said they didn't get your point? :?


Apologies I mis read your words thought it was aimed at me when in actual fact it was aimed at the OP response to one of my posts (I think)

Re: what Russell Slade will never be able to bring to the ta

Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:24 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:The big difference between Slade and Ole was never more obvious than in this transfer window.

Whilst Ole's reputation was enough to secure first team or International players, Slade has struggled to bring in hardly any recognised talent.

Sure he has signed what should be a half decent striker, albeit untried at this level but pound for pound mid level Premier League players are bound to be better than those in the lower leagues.

I already know the arguement that we need players willing to get stuck in and do their jobs but in fact you can usually expect that as a given with regular top level players, otherwise they wouldn't be top players would they.

For me there's a world of difference between having a manager who players recognise (whoever that is) and a manager who's a big name or has achieved some success in the game.

Could this also be the reason why some of our existing players just aren't doing their stuff at the moment.

Do they really trust and believe in Slades ability to take them forward?



Is that some sort of joke???

If not your seriosuly deluded

His brief was to get rid of the overpaid players and sign players on the cheap

We weren't ever in the market for highly paid internationals this window and won't be for some time so how is it fair to compare signings of the previous manager and this one when their spending powers are completely different??


I get fed up of hearing fans spouting club policy as if they were at board meetings. Selling players to reduce wages has never been released as club policy.

Why would Tan take a chance on us going down because we take his ability to recoup his money with us.


If you can't see that's the way the club is going then you are even more deluded that I first thought

The fact that slade has stated that we are no longer doing business at the level wee were because it's unsustainable sort of speaks volumes as to what club policy has become

He has publicly stated that he ended to offload many players before he could add any it's common knowledge

And my point to the other poster who said he didn't get my point well my point was f*cking obvious you cannot compare the signings of a manager with a £20m budget in the championship to one with a £2m budget it's nonsensical and purely idiotic

What poster said they didn't get your point? :?


Apologies I mis read your words thought it was aimed at me when in actual fact it was aimed at the OP response to one of my posts (I think)

:) If you read the other points I made in the thread, you'd realise I was agreeing with you and had already posted some of the points you made! :ayatollah:

Re: what Russell Slade will never be able to bring to the ta

Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:33 pm

Skewett wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:The big difference between Slade and Ole was never more obvious than in this transfer window.

Whilst Ole's reputation was enough to secure first team or International players, Slade has struggled to bring in hardly any recognised talent.

Sure he has signed what should be a half decent striker, albeit untried at this level but pound for pound mid level Premier League players are bound to be better than those in the lower leagues.

I already know the arguement that we need players willing to get stuck in and do their jobs but in fact you can usually expect that as a given with regular top level players, otherwise they wouldn't be top players would they.

For me there's a world of difference between having a manager who players recognise (whoever that is) and a manager who's a big name or has achieved some success in the game.

Could this also be the reason why some of our existing players just aren't doing their stuff at the moment.

Do they really trust and believe in Slades ability to take them forward?



Is that some sort of joke???

If not your seriosuly deluded

His brief was to get rid of the overpaid players and sign players on the cheap

We weren't ever in the market for highly paid internationals this window and won't be for some time so how is it fair to compare signings of the previous manager and this one when their spending powers are completely different??


I get fed up of hearing fans spouting club policy as if they were at board meetings. Selling players to reduce wages has never been released as club policy.

Why would Tan take a chance on us going down because we take his ability to recoup his money with us.



Slades actually said that the wage bill needs to be reduced and that our buying policy has changed so I think that clearly tells us what the new policy at the club is.

Re: what Russell Slade will never be able to bring to the ta

Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:39 pm

nubbsy wrote:
Skewett wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
Skewett wrote:The big difference between Slade and Ole was never more obvious than in this transfer window.

Whilst Ole's reputation was enough to secure first team or International players, Slade has struggled to bring in hardly any recognised talent.

Sure he has signed what should be a half decent striker, albeit untried at this level but pound for pound mid level Premier League players are bound to be better than those in the lower leagues.

I already know the arguement that we need players willing to get stuck in and do their jobs but in fact you can usually expect that as a given with regular top level players, otherwise they wouldn't be top players would they.

For me there's a world of difference between having a manager who players recognise (whoever that is) and a manager who's a big name or has achieved some success in the game.

Could this also be the reason why some of our existing players just aren't doing their stuff at the moment.

Do they really trust and believe in Slades ability to take them forward?



Is that some sort of joke???

If not your seriosuly deluded

His brief was to get rid of the overpaid players and sign players on the cheap

We weren't ever in the market for highly paid internationals this window and won't be for some time so how is it fair to compare signings of the previous manager and this one when their spending powers are completely different??


I get fed up of hearing fans spouting club policy as if they were at board meetings. Selling players to reduce wages has never been released as club policy.

Why would Tan take a chance on us going down because we take his ability to recoup his money with us.



Slades actually said that the wage bill needs to be reduced and that our buying policy has changed so I think that clearly tells us what the new policy at the club is.


That'll be the same Slade who lied about players fitness and injuries wouldnt it.