" Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade "
Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:50 pm
Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
It may sound harsh, but it's true.
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/news/
I've seen and heard a lot of people ask: Who would you prefer - Slade or Ole? It's a question that's unanswerable. Ole signed players who had a proven pedigree, such as Adam Le Fondre. However, he played them out of position and that's why his tactics failed.
Slade then took some of our best players, such as Daehli and Fabio, and froze them out completely. Slade's tactics have failed for a completely different reason. He is stuck in his ways and the we play is far too predictable. Slade is a dinosaur in football management terms.
Would we have made the top six with Ole? Probably not. But we had absolutely no chance of getting there with Russell Slade. As people, Ole is one of the nicest people you meet. I've never met Russell Slade so can't comment, but seems to be a nice bloke in his interviews. But neither are good football managers.
People say the way we play now is the same as we played under Malky Mackay. To be frank, that's some of the biggest load of rubbish I've heard. Under Malky, it wasn't attractive football a lot of the time. But he sent his players out there every week, and without fail they had fight in them. You could see they were committed to the cause from day one. The manager had a big say in that.
These days, we also don't play attractive football. But that's where the similarities end. Our players have no fight in them, no will to fight for their manager. Can anyone honestly say that the players couldn't work any harder than they do? I doubt it.
Even the players who were there when Malky was, have changed.
Whatever Malky Mackay did away from footballing matters, it does not change the fact that he took us to a cup final and got us promoted. He will be remembered for the right reasons over the years, I honestly believe that.
Even Dave Jones could do a better job than Russell Slade is.
OK, the players who are leaving now - I don't think that's down to Russell Slade. The owner has clearly decided that he wants a quick-fire sale of players, and to replace them with a cheap option, to make some money. We can't blame the manager for that, it's out of his hands.
But his tactics are his downfall, together with his stubbornness.
Whenever I watch the team, listen on the radio, or I see highlights I struggle to work out the game-plan. We don't seem to have one. How is that ever going to work?
Let's be honest, we only beat Fulham because we were back in blue. That was what gave the players a boost, because of the fans, it had nothing to do with the manager. We would have lost that game otherwise and if we did, we'd be just eight points off the bottom three now - with most of the teams below us to have a game in hand.
Solskjaer was sacked after seven games and we had eight points. Since then we have had 20 games, and picked up just 26 points. Is that really much of an improvement?
They judged Solskjaer on eight games, although he did have the second half of last season as well, but what if we judge Slade on his first eight games and his last eight games ahead of tomorrow?
His first eight games gave him sixteen points, which was impressive. But as you'll have worked out by now, we've picked up just 10 points since then - that run ended on November 29th.
His last eight games have returned five points. Is that really acceptable? A big fat no from me.
With 19 games to go, how many more points will we get?
http://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic ... 2&t=142949
Will it be enough to stay up? Only time will tell.
http://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic ... 2&t=145418
The headline could be a bit misleading, we may well be heading down. It looks like an overreaction when you look at the table, but things can change very quickly.
When Peterborough got relegated in 2013, they had 20 points more than we have now.
It's going to be a very interesting end to the season.
It may sound harsh, but it's true.
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/news/
I've seen and heard a lot of people ask: Who would you prefer - Slade or Ole? It's a question that's unanswerable. Ole signed players who had a proven pedigree, such as Adam Le Fondre. However, he played them out of position and that's why his tactics failed.
Slade then took some of our best players, such as Daehli and Fabio, and froze them out completely. Slade's tactics have failed for a completely different reason. He is stuck in his ways and the we play is far too predictable. Slade is a dinosaur in football management terms.
Would we have made the top six with Ole? Probably not. But we had absolutely no chance of getting there with Russell Slade. As people, Ole is one of the nicest people you meet. I've never met Russell Slade so can't comment, but seems to be a nice bloke in his interviews. But neither are good football managers.
People say the way we play now is the same as we played under Malky Mackay. To be frank, that's some of the biggest load of rubbish I've heard. Under Malky, it wasn't attractive football a lot of the time. But he sent his players out there every week, and without fail they had fight in them. You could see they were committed to the cause from day one. The manager had a big say in that.
These days, we also don't play attractive football. But that's where the similarities end. Our players have no fight in them, no will to fight for their manager. Can anyone honestly say that the players couldn't work any harder than they do? I doubt it.
Even the players who were there when Malky was, have changed.
Whatever Malky Mackay did away from footballing matters, it does not change the fact that he took us to a cup final and got us promoted. He will be remembered for the right reasons over the years, I honestly believe that.
Even Dave Jones could do a better job than Russell Slade is.
OK, the players who are leaving now - I don't think that's down to Russell Slade. The owner has clearly decided that he wants a quick-fire sale of players, and to replace them with a cheap option, to make some money. We can't blame the manager for that, it's out of his hands.
But his tactics are his downfall, together with his stubbornness.
Whenever I watch the team, listen on the radio, or I see highlights I struggle to work out the game-plan. We don't seem to have one. How is that ever going to work?
Let's be honest, we only beat Fulham because we were back in blue. That was what gave the players a boost, because of the fans, it had nothing to do with the manager. We would have lost that game otherwise and if we did, we'd be just eight points off the bottom three now - with most of the teams below us to have a game in hand.
Solskjaer was sacked after seven games and we had eight points. Since then we have had 20 games, and picked up just 26 points. Is that really much of an improvement?
They judged Solskjaer on eight games, although he did have the second half of last season as well, but what if we judge Slade on his first eight games and his last eight games ahead of tomorrow?
His first eight games gave him sixteen points, which was impressive. But as you'll have worked out by now, we've picked up just 10 points since then - that run ended on November 29th.
His last eight games have returned five points. Is that really acceptable? A big fat no from me.
With 19 games to go, how many more points will we get?
http://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic ... 2&t=142949
Will it be enough to stay up? Only time will tell.
http://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic ... 2&t=145418
The headline could be a bit misleading, we may well be heading down. It looks like an overreaction when you look at the table, but things can change very quickly.
When Peterborough got relegated in 2013, they had 20 points more than we have now.
It's going to be a very interesting end to the season.
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:52 pm
Another club bashing sticky bloody hell ,2 million for brayford should be a sticky awesome business for an average player
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:59 pm
Wrong.
We'll go straight down to League 1.
We'll go straight down to League 1.
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:10 pm
i think we will servive this season but next season if slade is
still in charge i will have a good bet on use getting relegated
still in charge i will have a good bet on use getting relegated
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:19 pm
davids wrote:Wrong.
We'll go straight down to League 1.
If you read the whole post its mentioned at the end...
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:28 pm
In my mind, a super post. I totally agree. Well done you in every respect. 
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:31 pm
wez1927 wrote:Another club bashing sticky bloody hell ,2 million for brayford should be a sticky awesome business for an average player
Don't agree that Brayford is average, but it's about opinions.
Just out of interest, what has been your thoughts on recent performances Wez? Do you think it's acceptable, when our manager constantly claims he believes we'll make the top six?
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:31 pm
good post bot i did not read he was going to have a bet for me
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:36 pm
We aint got many good players but Brayford is certainly one of them. Well be losing Marshall, Fabio and Manga next and all quality will be gone. Never mind the quality feel the width.
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:23 am
wez1927 wrote:Another club bashing sticky bloody hell ,2 million for brayford should be a sticky awesome business for an average player
Club bashing? It's a pretty honest thread. What do you expect people to write about wez? The football? He has, it's drab. Or shall we all pretend we're loving life... Listen we're all still city fans and behind the team but there's issues that need discussing get over it and stop bashing everyone who discusses them.
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:28 am
An odd transfer though, playing nearly every game for us and then sold to a league 1 club. I get he knows Clough and was there last season but it's a different move for sure.
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:11 am
Very realistic post, even with the new ticket prices my head and heart say save your money until RS and his team go.
It's the same old dribble from him what's happened with us is that we have picked bad managers and continue to do so and until that stops we won't be going anywhere.
If Dalman thought he had got the cream when he got OGS then we certainly have the curdled bit now with RS.
The most depressing thing is that it's only going to get worse!
It's the same old dribble from him what's happened with us is that we have picked bad managers and continue to do so and until that stops we won't be going anywhere.
If Dalman thought he had got the cream when he got OGS then we certainly have the curdled bit now with RS.
The most depressing thing is that it's only going to get worse!
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:03 am
The worrying thing is that we are going backwards so quickly with all the quality benign shipped out and very poor tactics on the field.
Ninian Park & the CCS were a fortress where we used to take a lot of points and teams were frightened to visit. Now EVERY team that visits gives us a right hard game and more often now we are being totally outplayed. That's includes teams like Rotherham. They were near the bottom of the table when they visited and they took us apart. We were lucky to escape with a draw. Slade's luck has run out and his true ability has been shown over the last dozen games.
From promotion favourites to a possible relegation fight.
Ninian Park & the CCS were a fortress where we used to take a lot of points and teams were frightened to visit. Now EVERY team that visits gives us a right hard game and more often now we are being totally outplayed. That's includes teams like Rotherham. They were near the bottom of the table when they visited and they took us apart. We were lucky to escape with a draw. Slade's luck has run out and his true ability has been shown over the last dozen games.
From promotion favourites to a possible relegation fight.
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:20 am
In my mind if we continue in the same vein with our current performances we will be at or near the bottom of the league come May.
We're just not performing and good players still to leave.
Slade is under instructions from above and he has a thankless job tbh but like most others I believe he's taken us backwards.
We're just not performing and good players still to leave.
Slade is under instructions from above and he has a thankless job tbh but like most others I believe he's taken us backwards.
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:31 am
Slade and Young were the wrong appointments. However, Ole was a complete and utter disaster and Slade has to rebuild completely. He has been appointed by Tan because he'll go along with the cost-cutting which Tan plans in order to make us easier for him to sell. Sadly, his appointment didn't make any sense when there were much better candidates out there - Lennon, Hughton, Clarke and, of course, Pulis.
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:10 am
bluemun wrote:Slade and Young were the wrong appointments. However, Ole was a complete and utter disaster and Slade has to rebuild completely. He has been appointed by Tan because he'll go along with the cost-cutting which Tan plans in order to make us easier for him to sell. Sadly, his appointment didn't make any sense when there were much better candidates out there - Lennon, Hughton, Clarke and, of course, Pulis.
This is right, however, all of the four names mentioned would have command massive contracts, especially in the case of TP.
Tan has gone for the bog standard approach, at bargain basement prices. The team will very soon be the same, whether that be a good thing, or a bad thing!
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:46 am
nubbsy wrote:wez1927 wrote:Another club bashing sticky bloody hell ,2 million for brayford should be a sticky awesome business for an average player
Club bashing? It's a pretty honest thread. What do you expect people to write about wez? The football? He has, it's drab. Or shall we all pretend we're loving life... Listen we're all still city fans and behind the team but there's issues that need discussing get over it and stop bashing everyone who discusses them.
Spot on nubbsy but he does love a moan doesn't he?
A good honest assessment & a good post bt Worcester.
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:53 am
players have let us and the club down and looks Like slades had enough so us bringing his own players in ,the players he has brought in have been our best players on the pitch so I think slade should be given a chance in this transfer window to sort the team outworcester_ccfc wrote:wez1927 wrote:Another club bashing sticky bloody hell ,2 million for brayford should be a sticky awesome business for an average player
Don't agree that Brayford is average, but it's about opinions.
Just out of interest, what has been your thoughts on recent performances Wez? Do you think it's acceptable, when our manager constantly claims he believes we'll make the top six?
Re: " Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade "
Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:20 am
Incorrect. ..
we will not go anywhere under tan - this club is being by people who dont know how to run a football club.
we will not go anywhere under tan - this club is being by people who dont know how to run a football club.
Re: " Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade "
Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:36 am
while it's hard to disagree with a lot of the post and yes ole did bring a lot of good players on very high wages but you have to ask did they perform when ole went we were in 17th place so those players who a lot of people on here keep on about how good they are were not doing the job so in any walk of life if people are not doing their job you get rid of them with somebody who wants to work for you on paper they may not be as good but if they are willing to give 100% we have to give them a chance
Re: " Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade "
Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:41 am
Jesus Christ.. The man hasn't even had a full transfer window yet, has a squad way to heavy and full of shit ( Fabio ). I like anyone else haven't enjoyed what I've been watching but I'm willing to at least give him till end of the season. Who knows if we all get behind him and think positively ( hard for many city fans ) I know,results may change! We're back in blue and trimming our wage bill too.. Positives.. You know all the city fans who grew up watching city through the years, with all the shit teams we had, where all your patients gone?
Re: " Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade "
Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:44 am
The players are certainly not running through brick walls for Slade and this has been a huge problem.
I think the senior pro's at the club have had a look at him and his tactics and realised they are going nowhere with him.
He seems totally unable to motivate the squad and I believe he has lost this current dressing room. When he has a side full of lower division players they may start looking up to him.
In my opinion we will go nowhere with Slade in charge at the club I just hope that with some new players the ship will steady.
I think the senior pro's at the club have had a look at him and his tactics and realised they are going nowhere with him.
He seems totally unable to motivate the squad and I believe he has lost this current dressing room. When he has a side full of lower division players they may start looking up to him.
In my opinion we will go nowhere with Slade in charge at the club I just hope that with some new players the ship will steady.
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:05 pm
wez1927 wrote:Another club bashing sticky bloody hell ,2 million for brayford should be a sticky awesome business for an average player
Tell you what Wez, if you can write a similar style piece on the positives around CCFC, then I'll make it a sticky for you.
Re: Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade
Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:51 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:wez1927 wrote:Another club bashing sticky bloody hell ,2 million for brayford should be a sticky awesome business for an average player
Tell you what Wez, if you can write a similar style piece on the positives around CCFC, then I'll make it a sticky for you.
What wez is forgetting is that our club is a joke at making money on transfers. We recently got rid of Gestede for a pittance to Blackburn and he has thrived in a short space of time and now Crystal Palace want to buy him for 5 million. So there are no positives in our transfer dealings and none on the pitch at present and as I write this, we have just conceded a second goal to Reading. Put a positive on that on wez.
Re: " Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade "
Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:47 pm
Yes we will..................................................down 
Re: " Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade "
Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:52 pm
Tan's ignorance of football is so great it makes him vulnerable to being taken advantage of by others. Glenn Roeder somehow managed to get himself into a position where he became Tan's trusted adviser. And so it was that City ended up with Roeder's mate Slade being appointed Manager.
The appointment of Slade defies any football logic. He was about to be sacked by Leyton Orient who were languishing near the bottom of Division 1 when City came calling. He'd never managed higher than League 1 and never got any League side promoted. Someone with his CV doesn't seem like the ideal candidate to turn around a club who held Premier League status just 4 months earlier, especially when there were so many other candidates available who were so much better qualified for the role.
Tan has gone for the cheapest option and chosen someone who he could have complete control over. He's compounded his mistake by appointing as Slade's number 1 Scott Young, who failed at management at League of Wales level. Tan, Slade, Young: this truly is a disastrous set-up.
We are destined for some very difficult times for as long as Tan remains owner of the club.
The appointment of Slade defies any football logic. He was about to be sacked by Leyton Orient who were languishing near the bottom of Division 1 when City came calling. He'd never managed higher than League 1 and never got any League side promoted. Someone with his CV doesn't seem like the ideal candidate to turn around a club who held Premier League status just 4 months earlier, especially when there were so many other candidates available who were so much better qualified for the role.
Tan has gone for the cheapest option and chosen someone who he could have complete control over. He's compounded his mistake by appointing as Slade's number 1 Scott Young, who failed at management at League of Wales level. Tan, Slade, Young: this truly is a disastrous set-up.
We are destined for some very difficult times for as long as Tan remains owner of the club.
Re: " Cardiff will go nowhere under Russell Slade "
Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:42 am
Transfer window or not. Can anyone c a style of football RS is playing. Imo we'll be lucky to get another away win this season...... How does he expect to win at home either unless we get a load of set pieces. I'll b surprised if we manage to get 20 more points this season. Will that be enough to keep us up?