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' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:33 am

LE FONDRE? LE ENIGMA?

by Steve Tucker

Tues 20th Jan 2015

OK, I’m sorry, but I’m starting to slightly struggle when it comes to working out what Adam Le Fondre brings to the Cardiff side.

Russell Slade obviously loves the guy. While the team around him is prone to fluctuate, Le Fondre remains at its core, unmovable.

For a start he does not score, unless it’s against Watford. His tap-in to win at Vicarage Road has been the highlight so far, his opener against the Hornets in the Welsh capital a month later proved a false dawn as the Bluebirds were sunk 4-2.

Two goals in 25 appearances this season is not good enough for a striker, right? I mean, he is a striker, isn’t he? He does not really shoot or provide assists. He has one assist this campaign. He does not really indulge in link-up play. He was dropped back into a more midfield role against Norwich apparently, I only know this because Slade pointed it out later.

The other question about Le Fondre that requires an immediate answer is, of course, how long does this situation continue?

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:55 am

It continues until we get rid of slade. Then he can take him back to league 1 :wave:

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:42 am

I think the attacks on Slade are a bit harsh but on this case no as lefodre is the most annoying player to see on the team sheet and is constant and does nothing but run about

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:46 am

I think with strikers you have to be careful and give them time to build their confidence and they will come good.


But by time I mean five to ten games, not half a season with no goals or assists ??!

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:53 am

Surely the moment Mason is fit Le Fondre is out of the team. One of the least effective strikers we have had at the club in years but appears first name of the team sheet because of our manager.

In fairness to the guy though he is having to work in the most disorganised team we have had a years, ALL, thanks to RS who appears incapable of galvanising or organising our team. Most games it looks like our team have never met before and most players haven't a clue what thier individual roles within the team are.

Perhaps the question should be "What does Russell Slade bring to the club", he is after all a manager isn't he?


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:58 am

The saying is you get what you pay for ( Slade I mean ) ..... ex League 1 manager who is signing players that he fancied for Leyton Orient ! Le Fondre has really disappointed me as I honestly thought he'd be banging the goals in this season ..... dunno what went wrong there ?

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:17 am

Martyn1963 wrote:The saying is you get what you pay for ( Slade I mean ) ..... ex League 1 manager who is signing players that he fancied for Leyton Orient ! Le Fondre has really disappointed me as I honestly thought he'd be banging the goals in this season ..... dunno what went wrong there ?


I thought he'd be banging them in as well.
I think the answer is to take him out & try him as an impact sub. After all that's where he excelled previously.

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:18 am

Poor journalism yet again by the echo!!

The lads confidence is shot, Slade isn't helping matters, ALF needs a break, his goal scoring record speaks for itself!

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:07 am

Wolfpac wrote:Poor journalism yet again by the echo!!

The lads confidence is shot, Slade isn't helping matters, ALF needs a break, his goal scoring record speaks for itself!


That's not a newspaper job ffs.
That's down to mis-management by the manager!
Slade.

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:44 am

Apart form his time at Rotherham, most of his best work has been as a substitute. Can't fault his attitude and effort but unfortunately he is bring little to the team at the moment. Needs a rest in my opinion. So does Noone, but that's another story!

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:51 am

He is a complete waste of space. Another terrible signing from the troll.

His supporters say he cannot be expected to score if he does not get service/chances. That is rubbish as he has had enough gilt edge chances to score but has fluffed them. His poor efforts at Millwall conceivably cost us 3 points, he had a late chance at Blackpool, he missed several good chances v Brentford, Watford and versus Fulham when clean through he chipped it straight to their keeper. There have been others.

For me he has not enough ability to be the starting no 9 at this level. He cannot control the ball. He always wants a second or third touch. He has no "killer instinct" and is not clinical enough.

He may run around a lot but he is not a striker whom will score enough to justify a starting place. 2 in 20 odd games is just pathetic.

Bench him and bring him on if necessary when we are losing.

I'd rather see Rhys Healey or a fit Joe Mason than this failure.

For this league a team needs a Lambert or Holt or Austin or Ings or Martin. City have not had one of those since the days of Chopra Bothroyd and McCormack

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:56 am

Danny Says wrote:He is a complete waste of space. Another terrible signing from the troll.

His supporters say he cannot be expected to score if he does not get service/chances. That is rubbish as he has had enough gilt edge chances to score but has fluffed them. His poor efforts at Millwall conceivably cost us 3 points, he had a late chance at Blackpool, he missed several good chances v Brentford, Watford and versus Fulham when clean through he chipped it straight to their keeper. There have been others.

For me he has not enough ability to be the starting no 9 at this level. He cannot control the ball. He always wants a second or third touch. He has no "killer instinct" and is not clinical enough.

He may run around a lot but he is not a striker whom will score enough to justify a starting place. 2 in 20 odd games is just pathetic.

Bench him and bring him on if necessary when we are losing.

Totally agree! Well said.

I'd rather see Rhys Healey or a fit Joe Mason than this failure.

For this league a team needs a Lambert or Holt or Austin or Ings or Martin. City have not had one of those since the days of Chopra Bothroyd and McCormack

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:06 pm

I would drop Le Fondre and replace him with a midfield player. There again I'm not Russell Slade.

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:15 pm

He offers nothing of any worth, he works hard but it’s not enough. Poor goals tally, poor assists tally, rarely shoots, never really looks like he is going to score, he doesn’t worry defenders.
I do feel a little sorry for him as the service is terrible but he needs to offer more. A decent manager would have took him out the firing line for a few games. he is known as the super sub previously. Coming on when we are chasing a game (which is often) and trying to knick a goal may do him the world of good.

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:23 pm

Remember we had a similiar problem with Miller.

Except Miller did score a couple but also missed some very important ones. ALF does not seem to score or miss any. The miss any bit is down to the fact he does not get into a position to miss.

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:42 pm

Weres nicky maynard?

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:50 pm

Just get rid of him and Macheda both useless, try and sign 2 proven goalscorers instead! Alf has had his chance and now he can bugger off!

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:56 pm

Le Fondre won the throw in leading to our winning goal against Fulham and won a penalty last Saturday, so he is contributing. He runs himself into the ground providing an outlet to take the pressure off the team. Unfortunately, Le Fondre is playing in a team who's highest percentage stat in one half is 41% since Slade took over. Is that Le Fondre's fault? Maybe if Le Fondre was in a team who could keep the ball a bit more, he would have the opportunity to get into more scoring positions and he wouldn't have to sacrifice his game to do so much unselfish running for the team!

It was the same with Kenny Miller and Fraizer Campbell (when we were in the Premiership), running theirselves into the ground and doing the defensive work to take the pressure off our team. But nobody thinks of that, all people look at is Le Fondre's lack of goals! Le Fondre scored bucketloads of goals with Rotherham and Reading (in the Premiership), yet most City fans now think he's struggling based on his lack of goals for us, without being able to see the REAL reasons why Le Fondre isn't able to get into positions to score goals for us. It's absolutely unbelieveable!

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:02 pm

castleblue wrote:Surely the moment Mason is fit Le Fondre is out of the team. One of the least effective strikers we have had at the club in years but appears first name of the team sheet because of our manager.

In fairness to the guy though he is having to work in the most disorganised team we have had a years, ALL, thanks to RS who appears incapable of galvanising or organising our team. Most games it looks like our team have never met before and most players haven't a clue what thier individual roles within the team are.

Perhaps the question should be "What does Russell Slade bring to the club", he is after all a manager isn't he?


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


"What does Russell Slade bring to the club"

He makes a trip to the CCS a fecking painful trip !!!

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:08 pm

I don't get why he's struggling. Didn't he score 14 goals for reading in the PL?

He's capable of scoring but; what the f**k is he doing. :lol:

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:23 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Le Fondre won the throw in leading to our winning goal against Fulham and won a penalty last Saturday, so he is contributing. He runs himself into the ground providing an outlet to take the pressure off the team. Unfortunately, Le Fondre is playing in a team who's highest percentage stat in one half is 41% since Slade took over. Is that Le Fondre's fault? Maybe if Le Fondre was in a team who could keep the ball a bit more, he would have the opportunity to get into more scoring positions and he wouldn't have to sacrifice his game to do so much unselfish running for the team!

It was the same with Kenny Miller and Fraizer Campbell (when we were in the Premiership), running theirselves into the ground and doing the defensive work to take the pressure off our team. But nobody thinks of that, all people look at is Le Fondre's lack of goals! Le Fondre scored bucketloads of goals with Rotherham and Reading (in the Premiership), yet most City fans now think he's struggling based on his lack of goals for us, without being able to see the REAL reasons why Le Fondre isn't able to get into positions to score goals for us. It's absolutely unbelieveable!


I agree he isnt used properly but I think we are scrapping the barrell when one of the key things he has done this season is win a throw in :lol:

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:37 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Le Fondre won the throw in leading to our winning goal against Fulham and won a penalty last Saturday, so he is contributing. He runs himself into the ground providing an outlet to take the pressure off the team. Unfortunately, Le Fondre is playing in a team who's highest percentage stat in one half is 41% since Slade took over. Is that Le Fondre's fault? Maybe if Le Fondre was in a team who could keep the ball a bit more, he would have the opportunity to get into more scoring positions and he wouldn't have to sacrifice his game to do so much unselfish running for the team!

It was the same with Kenny Miller and Fraizer Campbell (when we were in the Premiership), running theirselves into the ground and doing the defensive work to take the pressure off our team. But nobody thinks of that, all people look at is Le Fondre's lack of goals! Le Fondre scored bucketloads of goals with Rotherham and Reading (in the Premiership), yet most City fans now think he's struggling based on his lack of goals for us, without being able to see the REAL reasons why Le Fondre isn't able to get into positions to score goals for us. It's absolutely unbelieveable!


I agree he isnt used properly but I think we are scrapping the barrell when one of the key things he has done this season is win a throw in :lol:


All I said was our last 2 games were home to Fulham and away to Norwich. Le Fondre won the throw in with a break down the right leading to the winning goal against Fulham and he won a penalty away to Norwich. So everyone saying Le Fondre isn't currently contributing is wide of the mark. We would all like him to score more goals, but like you say, he isn't being used to his best.

I thought Le Fondre would start scoring alongside Kenwyne but unfortunately, Le Fondre made the mistake of bigging up Kenwyne as the "Drogba of the Championship". Kenwyne has been lazy ever since. Hopefully Le Fondre will be given a run of games up front with Alex Revell, as Revell has statistically covered more ground than any other striker in the Championship this season. Le Fondre will be able to concentrate on playing to his strengths and score more goals then.

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:39 pm

I just think he needs some time out of the team to be honest, I think it would actually help him.

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:52 pm

Nicky maynard scores for fun in the championship as does joey mason, Will slade play them? highly unlikely.
Not even giving Guerra a chance shows slade knows f**k all .

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:12 pm

i still think he'll come good we just need better players providing better service,lets be honest theres not to many ppl in our team performing at the min and lefondre is one of them,he had pacey wingers at reading and they got the ball in the box, more often on counter attacks,we launch it in from fidty yards away and expect the midget on the pitch to do more,the only reason hes still playing is his work ethic is far higher than the other strikers at the club and hes willing to sacrifice himself to do a job asked by slade hence hes in the team.we need to be quicker going forward but by playing not hoofing it up the pitch and i think hed score goals, or more like i hope so

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:15 pm

Slade likes lower league players so why hasn't he hauled Rhys Healey back and given him a go?

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:22 pm

I think the same apply to goalkeepers and strikers. They are heavily reliant on confidence. Neither Macheda or Le Fondre are bad players, but they look bad at the moment. The entire team look shut, but you can really see it with these guys. No doubt Le Fondre needs a brake. But at the end of he day he is not a bad player, just a suffering one :bluescarf:

Re: ' LE FONDRE ? '

Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:45 pm

He needs to be dropped,saying that so does pretty much the rest of the team