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Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:05 pm

Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?
and I'm not talking about any Promotion challenge as my concern is well and truely focused on reaching 50 points as soon as we can.

http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/news/ :thumbright:

With the departure door still well and truely open I am concerned that we are entering a crucial stage of the season with barely enough players to select a matchday squad, and then the options open to RS are pretty much limited.

With David Marshall not travelling with the team for tomorrows game it will be fingers crossed nothing happens to Simon Moore because we have NO experienced cover. With Bruno Manga away at the African Cup of nations our back 4 is pretty much nailed on as Brayford, Morrison, Turner and Malone. That will leave any places on the bench for Fabio, John, Connelly and Gabbidon but surely RS could only select a miximum of 3 of those.

In midfield again our 4 players pretty much pick themselves with Whittingham, Gunnarsonn, Noone and Adeyemi likely, in my opinion, to start the match. That only leaves Ralls, Harris and maybe Kim for the bench. With Dikgacoi and Pilkington injured and Burgstaller frozen out RS is hardly spoilt for choice or options.

Upfront with both Jones and Macheda carrying knocks that only leaves Le Fondre and Ravell likely starters with our only remaining forward Maynard frozen out. In my opinion this policy of freezing players out beggars belief and will again, in my opinion, leave us with a bench dominated by defensive players.

We seem to have gone backwards 5 years to when DJ would have 23 or so players to work with, but right now RS doesn't even have that number. RS is on record saying he wants another 2 or 3 players and in my opinion the club should be moving heaven and earth to get them for him.

Until that happens the club need to stop freezing players like Maynard and Burgstaller out before they follow the same track as Guerra and Daehli or this could be a very very long season.


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Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:09 pm

I think if the squad is cut the right way it could likely serve to improve our position. Squads with around
30 players are doing the best so we need to lose at least a doezen players to get to that. :ayatollah:

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:18 pm

lyndipops wrote:I think if the squad is cut the right way it could likely serve to improve our position. Squads with around
30 players are doing the best so we need to lose at least a doezen players to get to that. :ayatollah:


I agree with most of that but right now RS has 26 players in the squad and that is reduced by 4 through injury to Marshall, Fabio, Dikgacoi and Pilkington. Bruno Manga is on ACN duty and Kim, Bergstaller and Maynard are pretty much frozen out. Of the 19 players left Gabbidon is one of them and how close is he to playing.

Cut the squad by all means but as you say do it the right way. Is the club doing that.


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Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:42 pm

http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/news/ :thumbright:

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:44 pm

Not really as our players haven't been preforming. We need freshness and a much stronger midfield even if we pay out lower transfer fees.

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:32 pm

100% yes. I agree that we needed to trim the squad but the club have decided to out the quality to reduce the wage bill. Take away quality and without a doubt you will suffer.

We are bringing in cheap replacements who are nowhere near the quality that has been shipped out. A cost cutting exercise.

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:43 pm

survival will be key this season... cut all the slack he can and start a re-build next season

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:52 pm

For me Slade got it wrong the moment he arrived by choosing his active players and openly ruling out the rest. I hate to say it, mainly because I attend home and away, but the way we are going is backwards.

Worrying for me is the fact that after he gets rid of all our flair and then gets on his bike any replacement will have to spend next season trying to pursuade another set of decent players to come to Cardiff.

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:53 pm

No way I believe this season is a relegation battle!!
We have to identify a style of play, a formation to suit the quality we have in our ranks. That's been our problem, we don't know our best team, and the players are like strangers!!
Hopefully, with the trimming of the squad, additions to create balance we need (especially in midfield), we'll do well. So no, I dont c us as a team fighting relegation!! :bluescarf:

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:55 pm

On the field, this will be a 'non-event' season, i.e. we will neither go up nor go down and I accepted that some time ago

Off the field, regardless of what went on before, it will be seen as 'historic' for so many reasons; the biggest of which is the return to BLUE and I think that would do for most! ;) :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:57 pm

Sven wrote:On the field, this will be a 'non-event' season, i.e. we will neither go up nor go down and I accepted that some time ago

Off the field, regardless of what went on before, it will be seen as 'historic' for so many reasons; the biggest of which is the return to BLUE and I think that would do for most! ;) :thumbup: :ayatollah:



Correct!!! :bluescarf:

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:25 pm

There is no doubt whatsoever that we are going backwards.

The football being played the last couple of months has been abysmal and the worst for at least 5/6 years. is it going to get any better when he ships out all of the quality and brings in cheap replacements?

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:32 pm

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:There is no doubt whatsoever that we are going backwards.

The football being played the last couple of months has been abysmal and the worst for at least 5/6 years. is it going to get any better when he ships out all of the quality and brings in cheap replacements?


I agree, all creativity has been banished from our squad. I feel we await hatchet men to steady the ship!
We av all come disillusioned since our relegation. We expected to bounce back but, we r waaaaayyyyy offfff!!
Totally depressing and unexplainable!! :|

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:14 am

Sven wrote:On the field, this will be a 'non-event' season, i.e. we will neither go up nor go down and I accepted that some time ago

Off the field, regardless of what went on before, it will be seen as 'historic' for so many reasons; the biggest of which is the return to BLUE and I think that would do for most! ;) :thumbup: :ayatollah:



99% spot on. :thumbup:

But 1% maybe a playoff shot??? ;) :bluescarf:

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:23 am

Why do people say past couple months as been rubbish football? It went back to ole and malkey :o

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:21 am

pembroke allan wrote:Why do people say past couple months as been rubbish football? It went back to ole and malkey :o


Agreed. There were holes everywhere before. To be fair, Slade picked up a poisoned chalice and has worked hard. I'm no big fan but he is a proper feller.

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:31 am

Pembroke Allan that's correct the football's been gash well before slade come along the thing is untill he gets his own players then judge him I say although I can not see it changing much but lets hope I'm wrong untill then it's easy to blame slade :bluescarf:

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:00 am

Woodville Willie wrote:
Sven wrote:On the field, this will be a 'non-event' season, i.e. we will neither go up nor go down and I accepted that some time ago

Off the field, regardless of what went on before, it will be seen as 'historic' for so many reasons; the biggest of which is the return to BLUE and I think that would do for most! ;) :thumbup: :ayatollah:



99% spot on. :thumbup:

But 1% maybe a playoff shot??? ;) :bluescarf:






I'd love to think so, Willie, but the signs just aren't there at he moment ;)

However, we are Cardiff City FC, so I guess ANYTHING can happen...and probably will! :ayatollah: :lol: :lol:

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:12 am

The side wasn't storming the table with according to some the best squad ever assembled so I would imagine it's weaker now ,you need a strong squad at Championship level due to the physicality and amount of games to play also if players think that theres no competition for places then the effort can be reduced .

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:29 am

Skewett wrote:For me Slade got it wrong the moment he arrived by choosing his active players and openly ruling out the rest. I hate to say it, mainly because I attend home and away, but the way we are going is backwards.

Worrying for me is the fact that after he gets rid of all our flair and then gets on his bike any replacement will have to spend next season trying to pursuade another set of decent players to come to Cardiff.


I'm pretty certain he was pushed in the direction of certain players to pick and others to move in. I may be wrong.

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:28 am

Personal, I think a squad of between 24-26 players in the Championship is more than adequate, even given the grueling demands of a 46 game season, plus cup games.

What Russell Slade has been working with, to date,,is a simple case of "square pegs in round holes".

We all know that more players are going to leave in the very near future, & a few new ones brought in. Its up to RS & Co to find the right balance as a whole team, along with the ethos placed on sheer hard work, cohesiveness, & all having a positive, winning mentality.

All this takes time, & there's never enough of that in professional football, certainly not enough for us with the remaining season ahead, anyway.

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:19 am

pembroke allan wrote:Why do people say past couple months as been rubbish football? It went back to ole and malkey :o


Totally disagree. The football played under Slade has been miles behind Malky and Ole. We cannot string two passes together, not many efforts at goal and negative side/back passing. It is the worst football played for at least 5/6 years.

It has not been a one off. It started soon after the Forest match and has not picked up since. We have been lucky that we have not played many of the top teams in that time or we would have been smashed more.

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:29 am

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Why do people say past couple months as been rubbish football? It went back to ole and malkey :o


Totally disagree. The football played under Slade has been miles behind Malky and Ole. We cannot string two passes together, not many efforts at goal and negative side/back passing. It is the worst football played for at least 5/6 years.

It has not been a one off. It started soon after the Forest match and has not picked up since. We have been lucky that we have not played many of the top teams in that time or we would have been smashed more.


I agree with this & you have it spot on.

The football under MM wasn't brilliant but he had them playing as a team, they knew their jobs, worked for each other & they gave 100% effort & commitment. About the exact opposite to what's happening at the moment.

I think people like Allen don't watch City live week in & week out over the last few years.

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:22 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Why do people say past couple months as been rubbish football? It went back to ole and malkey :o


Totally disagree. The football played under Slade has been miles behind Malky and Ole. We cannot string two passes together, not many efforts at goal and negative side/back passing. It is the worst football played for at least 5/6 years.

It has not been a one off. It started soon after the Forest match and has not picked up since. We have been lucky that we have not played many of the top teams in that time or we would have been smashed more.


I agree with this & you have it spot on.

The football under MM wasn't brilliant but he had them playing as a team, they knew their jobs, worked for each other & they gave 100% effort & commitment. About the exact opposite to what's happening at the moment.

I think people like Allen don't watch City live week in & week out over the last few years.


100% right. I was wondering the same actually. I believe that I have only missed 2/3 games through illness/ hospital over the last 6/7 years and without a shadow of a doubt this us the worst football I have seen City play.

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:43 pm

castleblue wrote:Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?
and I'm not talking about any Promotion challenge as my concern is well and truely focused on reaching 50 points as soon as we can.

http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/news/ :thumbright:

With the departure door still well and truely open I am concerned that we are entering a crucial stage of the season with barely enough players to select a matchday squad, and then the options open to RS are pretty much limited.

With David Marshall not travelling with the team for tomorrows game it will be fingers crossed nothing happens to Simon Moore because we have NO experienced cover. With Bruno Manga away at the African Cup of nations our back 4 is pretty much nailed on as Brayford, Morrison, Turner and Malone. That will leave any places on the bench for Fabio, John, Connelly and Gabbidon but surely RS could only select a miximum of 3 of those.

In midfield again our 4 players pretty much pick themselves with Whittingham, Gunnarsonn, Noone and Adeyemi likely, in my opinion, to start the match. That only leaves Ralls, Harris and maybe Kim for the bench. With Dikgacoi and Pilkington injured and Burgstaller frozen out RS is hardly spoilt for choice or options.

Upfront with both Jones and Macheda carrying knocks that only leaves Le Fondre and Ravell likely starters with our only remaining forward Maynard frozen out. In my opinion this policy of freezing players out beggars belief and will again, in my opinion, leave us with a bench dominated by defensive players.

We seem to have gone backwards 5 years to when DJ would have 23 or so players to work with, but right now RS doesn't even have that number. RS is on record saying he wants another 2 or 3 players and in my opinion the club should be moving heaven and earth to get them for him.

Until that happens the club need to stop freezing players like Maynard and Burgstaller out before they follow the same track as Guerra and Daehli or this could be a very very long season.


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Agree mate, it was a good plan to identify his initial squad but it seems those not chosen haven't been given a look in whatsoever

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:48 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Why do people say past couple months as been rubbish football? It went back to ole and malkey :o


Totally disagree. The football played under Slade has been miles behind Malky and Ole. We cannot string two passes together, not many efforts at goal and negative side/back passing. It is the worst football played for at least 5/6 years.

It has not been a one off. It started soon after the Forest match and has not picked up since. We have been lucky that we have not played many of the top teams in that time or we would have been smashed more.


I agree with this & you have it spot on.

The football under MM wasn't brilliant but he had them playing as a team, they knew their jobs, worked for each other & they gave 100% effort & commitment. About the exact opposite to what's happening at the moment.

I think people like Allen don't watch City live week in & week out over the last few years.



I'm not sure how you can compare this football with Malkys Allan, granted it wasn't pretty and sometimes frustrating but we were a well drilled team with the best defence in the league and we maintained consistency throughout (championship I'm talking here).

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:15 pm

Little surprise that the starting 11 was exactly as I predicted last night which goes a long way, in my opinion, to show how badly the squad has been damaged by this policy of freezing players out and forcing them through the departure door.

RS must, in my opinion, take responsibility for this as he has from day 1 identified around 20 players and stuck with them despite one lack lustre performance after another. Let's face it few of us expect anything different from the team and I wonder where it is going to end this season.

Thank goodness there are 5 or 6 teams which, at this moment in time are worse than us, but come 1st February it does make you wonder what would happen if 2 or 3 of those team hit a run of results. At the moment we look incapable of getting a result away from home and it's looking increasing difficult to pick the 5 Home games we need to win to reach safety.

Before Christmas RS was ALL talk about getting in the top 6 by the end of the year, Why?, because very few teams force thier way into the playoffs who are not in or around them at that time. We are currently 10 points off the playoffs and RS is now talking about needing the summer transfer window to finish his rebuild of the squad.

The question he should answer is why has he demolished the squad in the first place and why hasn't he been able to put together a consistent series of results.

The answer is probably he is an average League 1 Manager struggling in a level of football he has NO experience of. With every game that goes by he looks a disaster of an appointment.


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Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:33 pm

castleblue wrote:Little surprise that the starting 11 was exactly as I predicted last night which goes a long way, in my opinion, to show how badly the squad has been damaged by this policy of freezing players out and forcing them through the departure door.

RS must, in my opinion, take responsibility for this as he has from day 1 identified around 20 players and stuck with them despite one lack lustre performance after another. Let's face it few of us expect anything different from the team and I wonder where it is going to end this season.

Thank goodness there are 5 or 6 teams which, at this moment in time are worse than us, but come 1st February it does make you wonder what would happen if 2 or 3 of those team hit a run of results. At the moment we look incapable of getting a result away from home and it's looking increasing difficult to pick the 5 Home games we need to win to reach safety.

Before Christmas RS was ALL talk about getting in the top 6 by the end of the year, Why?, because very few teams force thier way into the playoffs who are not in or around them at that time. We are currently 10 points off the playoffs and RS is now talking about needing the summer transfer window to finish his rebuild of the squad.

The question he should answer is why has he demolished the squad in the first place and why hasn't he been able to put together a consistent series of results.

The answer is probably he is an average League 1 Manager struggling in a level of football he has NO experience of. With every game that goes by he looks a disaster of an appointment.


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About sums it up but what is the club going to do about it?

I thought Slade deserved the time at first because as he said earlier in his reign he had got a 2 point a game average. That to me showed he was better than Ole so deserved the chance. Since then it has imploded on him, a bit like the club after the sacking of Malky. So if all this building continues I can see us going down next season. This season we will be ok but next season we will be one of the favourites to go down.

My whole fear is we do not have the footballing skills up there to sort this out. That went out o the window when Tan took over.

Re: Will The Cuts To The Playing Squad Damage Our Season?

Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:56 pm

do your maths. shit manager+shit team =?