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who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:29 pm

and signed a pig in a pork :old:

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:49 pm

Rudy was crap for us at the end of the day. He's found his form at Blackburn and good for him. :thumbright:

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:50 pm

Malky loaned him out to Blackburn with the option to buy.
I'm not sure if ole could have blocked a deal at that stage, think he has been in charge one day or something like that so doubt he would have.

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:14 pm

JonCCFC wrote:Rudy was crap for us at the end of the day. He's found his form at Blackburn and good for him. :thumbright:


thats the truth, he wasn't really up to standard in his time here and has improved massively at blackburn.

anyone can look wise in hindsight.

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:20 pm

He always had potential, would have made sense to have loaned him out with no option to buy. He needed a good run of games to see how good he was really and only now is he getting that at Blackburn

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:24 pm

In fairness over this Rudy was shocking when he first came, his trapping, positioning, heading, shooting and passing were all shite.

However he was quick, tall and had a hell of a leap.

Wilkinson used to spend hours teaching him the basics.
I went to a 'training day'at the vale and he was working one-on-one with him teaching him how to trap a ball and pass it back in 2 touches. It was a game and 'Wilko' beat him easily, however Gestede persevered and seemed to have the right attitude.

Toward the end of his spell he did seem to get better, he had a good game in the promotion sealing stuffing of Forest before the end of the season, but I think he'd been here 3 years by then and with promotion coming up it seemed obvious that having not really done enough to warrant a regular place in the Championship , and also not being a kid anymore either (think he was 25 by then ?) he would be better off elsewhere.

I don't think many could see into the future that he'd be scoring so many goals. He'd missed some sitters for us and really didn't look as if he had it (remember him missing that header by miles and it hitting him in the back !).
I also remember him coming on as sub in his last season in a game we were hanging on and he was like a headless chicken. Running the opposite way to where clearances would be going and failing to close down his man. As a result we were put under severe pressure.

I always though he'd make a good long-jumper but never a footballer. I'm still not convinced now, form the limited amount of what I've seen of him at Blackburn most of his goals have been easy with others doing the skillful bits.

Anyway , good luck to him, always polite and friendly to the fans and if he moves on then no good us looking back.

Be nice if we had a sell-on clause, but I'd doubt anyone had the foresight to put one in.

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:47 pm

Lawnmower wrote:In fairness over this Rudy was shocking when he first came, his trapping, positioning, heading, shooting and passing were all shite.

However he was quick, tall and had a hell of a leap.

Wilkinson used to spend hours teaching him the basics.
I went to a 'training day'at the vale and he was working one-on-one with him teaching him how to trap a ball and pass it back in 2 touches. It was a game and 'Wilko' beat him easily, however Gestede persevered and seemed to have the right attitude.

Toward the end of his spell he did seem to get better, he had a good game in the promotion sealing stuffing of Forest before the end of the season, but I think he'd been here 3 years by then and with promotion coming up it seemed obvious that having not really done enough to warrant a regular place in the Championship , and also not being a kid anymore either (think he was 25 by then ?) he would be better off elsewhere.


I don't think many could see into the future that he'd be scoring so many goals. He'd missed some sitters for us and really didn't look as if he had it (remember him missing that header by miles and it hitting him in the back !).
I also remember him coming on as sub in his last season in a game we were hanging on and he was like a headless chicken. Running the opposite way to where clearances would be going and failing to close down his man. As a result we were put under severe pressure.

I always though he'd make a good long-jumper but never a footballer. I'm still not convinced now, form the limited amount of what I've seen of him at Blackburn most of his goals have been easy with others doing the skillful bits.

Anyway , good luck to him, always polite and friendly to the fans and if he moves on then no good us looking back.

Be nice if we had a sell-on clause, but I'd doubt anyone had the foresight to put one in.


Bit harsh on Rudy. Some nice finishing with head and feet. Scoring one goal every two games. Would have been ideal for us now. :thumbup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oaypyc21JXs

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:52 pm

I liked rudy . But of a donkey at times but we should've kept and I wanted him to stay. Ah well.

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:57 pm

moonboots wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:In fairness over this Rudy was shocking when he first came, his trapping, positioning, heading, shooting and passing were all shite.

However he was quick, tall and had a hell of a leap.

Wilkinson used to spend hours teaching him the basics.
I went to a 'training day'at the vale and he was working one-on-one with him teaching him how to trap a ball and pass it back in 2 touches. It was a game and 'Wilko' beat him easily, however Gestede persevered and seemed to have the right attitude.

Toward the end of his spell he did seem to get better, he had a good game in the promotion sealing stuffing of Forest before the end of the season, but I think he'd been here 3 years by then and with promotion coming up it seemed obvious that having not really done enough to warrant a regular place in the Championship , and also not being a kid anymore either (think he was 25 by then ?) he would be better off elsewhere.


I don't think many could see into the future that he'd be scoring so many goals. He'd missed some sitters for us and really didn't look as if he had it (remember him missing that header by miles and it hitting him in the back !).
I also remember him coming on as sub in his last season in a game we were hanging on and he was like a headless chicken. Running the opposite way to where clearances would be going and failing to close down his man. As a result we were put under severe pressure.

I always though he'd make a good long-jumper but never a footballer. I'm still not convinced now, form the limited amount of what I've seen of him at Blackburn most of his goals have been easy with others doing the skillful bits.

Anyway , good luck to him, always polite and friendly to the fans and if he moves on then no good us looking back.

Be nice if we had a sell-on clause, but I'd doubt anyone had the foresight to put one in.


Bit harsh on Rudy. Some nice finishing with head and feet. Scoring one goal every two games. Would have been ideal for us now. :thumbup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oaypyc21JXs


Cheers for that, but nothing too exciting there. Mainly point blank headers- apart from the first where I think he was shocked to see it go in.

He's always been a superb athlete and I guess if you keep putting the ball on his bonce it will go in eventually.
He's certainly improved as he's got a fair few goals, but I'm not convinced he would be the answer for us, our crossing is poor and without that I think he would still struggle.

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:02 pm

I still say that he was better than Cornelius.

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:08 pm

Lawnmower wrote:
moonboots wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:In fairness over this Rudy was shocking when he first came, his trapping, positioning, heading, shooting and passing were all shite.

However he was quick, tall and had a hell of a leap.

Wilkinson used to spend hours teaching him the basics.
I went to a 'training day'at the vale and he was working one-on-one with him teaching him how to trap a ball and pass it back in 2 touches. It was a game and 'Wilko' beat him easily, however Gestede persevered and seemed to have the right attitude.

Toward the end of his spell he did seem to get better, he had a good game in the promotion sealing stuffing of Forest before the end of the season, but I think he'd been here 3 years by then and with promotion coming up it seemed obvious that having not really done enough to warrant a regular place in the Championship , and also not being a kid anymore either (think he was 25 by then ?) he would be better off elsewhere.


I don't think many could see into the future that he'd be scoring so many goals. He'd missed some sitters for us and really didn't look as if he had it (remember him missing that header by miles and it hitting him in the back !).
I also remember him coming on as sub in his last season in a game we were hanging on and he was like a headless chicken. Running the opposite way to where clearances would be going and failing to close down his man. As a result we were put under severe pressure.

I always though he'd make a good long-jumper but never a footballer. I'm still not convinced now, form the limited amount of what I've seen of him at Blackburn most of his goals have been easy with others doing the skillful bits.

Anyway , good luck to him, always polite and friendly to the fans and if he moves on then no good us looking back.

Be nice if we had a sell-on clause, but I'd doubt anyone had the foresight to put one in.


Bit harsh on Rudy. Some nice finishing with head and feet. Scoring one goal every two games. Would have been ideal for us now. :thumbup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oaypyc21JXs


Cheers for that, but nothing too exciting there. Mainly point blank headers- apart from the first where I think he was shocked to see it go in.

He's always been a superb athlete and I guess if you keep putting the ball on his bonce it will go in eventually.
He's certainly improved as he's got a fair few goals, but I'm not convinced he would be the answer for us, our crossing is poor and without that I think he would still struggle.


OK boss...if you say so. Lots of good goals there and plenty to get excited about in my opinion. :thumbup:

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:13 pm

moonboots wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
moonboots wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:In fairness over this Rudy was shocking when he first came, his trapping, positioning, heading, shooting and passing were all shite.

However he was quick, tall and had a hell of a leap.

Wilkinson used to spend hours teaching him the basics.
I went to a 'training day'at the vale and he was working one-on-one with him teaching him how to trap a ball and pass it back in 2 touches. It was a game and 'Wilko' beat him easily, however Gestede persevered and seemed to have the right attitude.

Toward the end of his spell he did seem to get better, he had a good game in the promotion sealing stuffing of Forest before the end of the season, but I think he'd been here 3 years by then and with promotion coming up it seemed obvious that having not really done enough to warrant a regular place in the Championship , and also not being a kid anymore either (think he was 25 by then ?) he would be better off elsewhere.


I don't think many could see into the future that he'd be scoring so many goals. He'd missed some sitters for us and really didn't look as if he had it (remember him missing that header by miles and it hitting him in the back !).
I also remember him coming on as sub in his last season in a game we were hanging on and he was like a headless chicken. Running the opposite way to where clearances would be going and failing to close down his man. As a result we were put under severe pressure.

I always though he'd make a good long-jumper but never a footballer. I'm still not convinced now, form the limited amount of what I've seen of him at Blackburn most of his goals have been easy with others doing the skillful bits.

Anyway , good luck to him, always polite and friendly to the fans and if he moves on then no good us looking back.

Be nice if we had a sell-on clause, but I'd doubt anyone had the foresight to put one in.


Bit harsh on Rudy. Some nice finishing with head and feet. Scoring one goal every two games. Would have been ideal for us now. :thumbup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oaypyc21JXs


Cheers for that, but nothing too exciting there. Mainly point blank headers- apart from the first where I think he was shocked to see it go in.

He's always been a superb athlete and I guess if you keep putting the ball on his bonce it will go in eventually.
He's certainly improved as he's got a fair few goals, but I'm not convinced he would be the answer for us, our crossing is poor and without that I think he would still struggle.


OK boss...if you say so. Lots of good goals there and plenty to get excited about in my opinion. :thumbup:


All only opinions :thumbup:

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:17 pm

We were so short sighted when we got promotion. Relegation was always a distinct possibility and we should have loaned out players who could have assisted in a promotion push should we have been relegated. We could always have sold the players had we survived the first season. Rudy was one of those who should have been loaned out with no guarantee of a purchase.

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:26 pm

Developed later on in the game, as lots of people on here said he would

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:31 pm

SwampCCFC wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:Rudy was crap for us at the end of the day. He's found his form at Blackburn and good for him. :thumbright:


thats the truth, he wasn't really up to standard in his time here and has improved massively at blackburn.

anyone can look wise in hindsight.


He only ever got sub appearances basically and I thought he done a tidy job

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:40 pm

I like Rudy good luck to him

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:53 pm

JonCCFC wrote:Rudy was crap for us at the end of the day. He's found his form at Blackburn and good for him. :thumbright:


Totally agree and posted on a different thread! Easy to say after!

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:56 pm

Funny how every tom dick and Harry's a rudy fan now eh?.

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:52 pm

Lawnmower wrote:
moonboots wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
moonboots wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:In fairness over this Rudy was shocking when he first came, his trapping, positioning, heading, shooting and passing were all shite.

However he was quick, tall and had a hell of a leap.

Wilkinson used to spend hours teaching him the basics.
I went to a 'training day'at the vale and he was working one-on-one with him teaching him how to trap a ball and pass it back in 2 touches. It was a game and 'Wilko' beat him easily, however Gestede persevered and seemed to have the right attitude.

Toward the end of his spell he did seem to get better, he had a good game in the promotion sealing stuffing of Forest before the end of the season, but I think he'd been here 3 years by then and with promotion coming up it seemed obvious that having not really done enough to warrant a regular place in the Championship , and also not being a kid anymore either (think he was 25 by then ?) he would be better off elsewhere.


I don't think many could see into the future that he'd be scoring so many goals. He'd missed some sitters for us and really didn't look as if he had it (remember him missing that header by miles and it hitting him in the back !).
I also remember him coming on as sub in his last season in a game we were hanging on and he was like a headless chicken. Running the opposite way to where clearances would be going and failing to close down his man. As a result we were put under severe pressure.

I always though he'd make a good long-jumper but never a footballer. I'm still not convinced now, form the limited amount of what I've seen of him at Blackburn most of his goals have been easy with others doing the skillful bits.

Anyway , good luck to him, always polite and friendly to the fans and if he moves on then no good us looking back.

Be nice if we had a sell-on clause, but I'd doubt anyone had the foresight to put one in.


Bit harsh on Rudy. Some nice finishing with head and feet. Scoring one goal every two games. Would have been ideal for us now. :thumbup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oaypyc21JXs


Cheers for that, but nothing too exciting there. Mainly point blank headers- apart from the first where I think he was shocked to see it go in.

He's always been a superb athlete and I guess if you keep putting the ball on his bonce it will go in eventually.
He's certainly improved as he's got a fair few goals, but I'm not convinced he would be the answer for us, our crossing is poor and without that I think he would still struggle.


OK boss...if you say so. Lots of good goals there and plenty to get excited about in my opinion. :thumbup:


All only opinions :thumbup:


They certainly are. I still think we should have only sent him out on loan and not sold him prematurely for peanuts. £4.5m to Hull. Not to be sniffed at. We are the antithesis of the Jacks when it comes to our dealings in the transfer markets. :thumbup:

Re: who sold rudy

Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:27 pm

As a lone striker he was terrible, but with a strike partner he had ability. He needed support to get the best out of him. Good luck to the guy, he's earnt it. Although it's a lot of money for one years decent form.

Re: who sold rudy

Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:00 am

RFMH wrote:As a lone striker he was terrible, but with a strike partner he had ability. He needed support to get the best out of him. Good luck to the guy, he's earnt it. Although it's a lot of money for one years decent form.



This. How old was he when he signed for us?

Re: who sold rudy

Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:14 am

stickywicket wrote:and signed a pig in a pork :old:




Why did you (so obviously) read someone else's thread and decide to create another one asking a question that has already been answered???? :? :roll:

Good luck to Rudy IMHO, as he's obviously 'pulled it together' since leaving here and we move on! ;)

Re: who sold rudy

Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:58 am

and know ones mentioned his injury problems with us
Darren cambell gave him one to 0ne running help which also helped his development
I certainly am not jumping on the bandwagon now
I was probably rudys biggest fan / supporter on this board
and was ridiculed for it :bluescarf:

Re: who sold rudy

Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:06 am

He was utter garbage when he was with us.

Re: who sold rudy

Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:48 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:He was utter garbage when he was with us.


no - Corny was utter garbage. Rudy was what he was - a free trialist who we paid a low wage to, who came on and actually scored some goals whilst not playing a lot of game time.

those 2 goals v Forest were monsters at the time.

good luck Rudy and thanks for your time with us, glad you've done well for yourself.

:bluescarf:

Re: who sold rudy

Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:21 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:He was utter garbage when he was with us.

Rubbish. You were wrong, admit it. You are so stubborn you cant even admit you were wrong. I told you he would peak and start banging them in and you laughed. Now he is laughing at you.