Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:29 pm
Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:49 pm
Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:50 pm
Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:14 pm
JonCCFC wrote:Rudy was crap for us at the end of the day. He's found his form at Blackburn and good for him.
Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:20 pm
Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:24 pm
Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:47 pm
Lawnmower wrote:In fairness over this Rudy was shocking when he first came, his trapping, positioning, heading, shooting and passing were all shite.
However he was quick, tall and had a hell of a leap.
Wilkinson used to spend hours teaching him the basics.
I went to a 'training day'at the vale and he was working one-on-one with him teaching him how to trap a ball and pass it back in 2 touches. It was a game and 'Wilko' beat him easily, however Gestede persevered and seemed to have the right attitude.
Toward the end of his spell he did seem to get better, he had a good game in the promotion sealing stuffing of Forest before the end of the season, but I think he'd been here 3 years by then and with promotion coming up it seemed obvious that having not really done enough to warrant a regular place in the Championship , and also not being a kid anymore either (think he was 25 by then ?) he would be better off elsewhere.
I don't think many could see into the future that he'd be scoring so many goals. He'd missed some sitters for us and really didn't look as if he had it (remember him missing that header by miles and it hitting him in the back !).
I also remember him coming on as sub in his last season in a game we were hanging on and he was like a headless chicken. Running the opposite way to where clearances would be going and failing to close down his man. As a result we were put under severe pressure.
I always though he'd make a good long-jumper but never a footballer. I'm still not convinced now, form the limited amount of what I've seen of him at Blackburn most of his goals have been easy with others doing the skillful bits.
Anyway , good luck to him, always polite and friendly to the fans and if he moves on then no good us looking back.
Be nice if we had a sell-on clause, but I'd doubt anyone had the foresight to put one in.
Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:52 pm
Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:57 pm
moonboots wrote:Lawnmower wrote:In fairness over this Rudy was shocking when he first came, his trapping, positioning, heading, shooting and passing were all shite.
However he was quick, tall and had a hell of a leap.
Wilkinson used to spend hours teaching him the basics.
I went to a 'training day'at the vale and he was working one-on-one with him teaching him how to trap a ball and pass it back in 2 touches. It was a game and 'Wilko' beat him easily, however Gestede persevered and seemed to have the right attitude.
Toward the end of his spell he did seem to get better, he had a good game in the promotion sealing stuffing of Forest before the end of the season, but I think he'd been here 3 years by then and with promotion coming up it seemed obvious that having not really done enough to warrant a regular place in the Championship , and also not being a kid anymore either (think he was 25 by then ?) he would be better off elsewhere.
I don't think many could see into the future that he'd be scoring so many goals. He'd missed some sitters for us and really didn't look as if he had it (remember him missing that header by miles and it hitting him in the back !).
I also remember him coming on as sub in his last season in a game we were hanging on and he was like a headless chicken. Running the opposite way to where clearances would be going and failing to close down his man. As a result we were put under severe pressure.
I always though he'd make a good long-jumper but never a footballer. I'm still not convinced now, form the limited amount of what I've seen of him at Blackburn most of his goals have been easy with others doing the skillful bits.
Anyway , good luck to him, always polite and friendly to the fans and if he moves on then no good us looking back.
Be nice if we had a sell-on clause, but I'd doubt anyone had the foresight to put one in.
Bit harsh on Rudy. Some nice finishing with head and feet. Scoring one goal every two games. Would have been ideal for us now.![]()
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oaypyc21JXs
Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:02 pm
Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:08 pm
Lawnmower wrote:moonboots wrote:Lawnmower wrote:In fairness over this Rudy was shocking when he first came, his trapping, positioning, heading, shooting and passing were all shite.
However he was quick, tall and had a hell of a leap.
Wilkinson used to spend hours teaching him the basics.
I went to a 'training day'at the vale and he was working one-on-one with him teaching him how to trap a ball and pass it back in 2 touches. It was a game and 'Wilko' beat him easily, however Gestede persevered and seemed to have the right attitude.
Toward the end of his spell he did seem to get better, he had a good game in the promotion sealing stuffing of Forest before the end of the season, but I think he'd been here 3 years by then and with promotion coming up it seemed obvious that having not really done enough to warrant a regular place in the Championship , and also not being a kid anymore either (think he was 25 by then ?) he would be better off elsewhere.
I don't think many could see into the future that he'd be scoring so many goals. He'd missed some sitters for us and really didn't look as if he had it (remember him missing that header by miles and it hitting him in the back !).
I also remember him coming on as sub in his last season in a game we were hanging on and he was like a headless chicken. Running the opposite way to where clearances would be going and failing to close down his man. As a result we were put under severe pressure.
I always though he'd make a good long-jumper but never a footballer. I'm still not convinced now, form the limited amount of what I've seen of him at Blackburn most of his goals have been easy with others doing the skillful bits.
Anyway , good luck to him, always polite and friendly to the fans and if he moves on then no good us looking back.
Be nice if we had a sell-on clause, but I'd doubt anyone had the foresight to put one in.
Bit harsh on Rudy. Some nice finishing with head and feet. Scoring one goal every two games. Would have been ideal for us now.![]()
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oaypyc21JXs
Cheers for that, but nothing too exciting there. Mainly point blank headers- apart from the first where I think he was shocked to see it go in.
He's always been a superb athlete and I guess if you keep putting the ball on his bonce it will go in eventually.
He's certainly improved as he's got a fair few goals, but I'm not convinced he would be the answer for us, our crossing is poor and without that I think he would still struggle.
Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:13 pm
moonboots wrote:Lawnmower wrote:moonboots wrote:Lawnmower wrote:In fairness over this Rudy was shocking when he first came, his trapping, positioning, heading, shooting and passing were all shite.
However he was quick, tall and had a hell of a leap.
Wilkinson used to spend hours teaching him the basics.
I went to a 'training day'at the vale and he was working one-on-one with him teaching him how to trap a ball and pass it back in 2 touches. It was a game and 'Wilko' beat him easily, however Gestede persevered and seemed to have the right attitude.
Toward the end of his spell he did seem to get better, he had a good game in the promotion sealing stuffing of Forest before the end of the season, but I think he'd been here 3 years by then and with promotion coming up it seemed obvious that having not really done enough to warrant a regular place in the Championship , and also not being a kid anymore either (think he was 25 by then ?) he would be better off elsewhere.
I don't think many could see into the future that he'd be scoring so many goals. He'd missed some sitters for us and really didn't look as if he had it (remember him missing that header by miles and it hitting him in the back !).
I also remember him coming on as sub in his last season in a game we were hanging on and he was like a headless chicken. Running the opposite way to where clearances would be going and failing to close down his man. As a result we were put under severe pressure.
I always though he'd make a good long-jumper but never a footballer. I'm still not convinced now, form the limited amount of what I've seen of him at Blackburn most of his goals have been easy with others doing the skillful bits.
Anyway , good luck to him, always polite and friendly to the fans and if he moves on then no good us looking back.
Be nice if we had a sell-on clause, but I'd doubt anyone had the foresight to put one in.
Bit harsh on Rudy. Some nice finishing with head and feet. Scoring one goal every two games. Would have been ideal for us now.![]()
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oaypyc21JXs
Cheers for that, but nothing too exciting there. Mainly point blank headers- apart from the first where I think he was shocked to see it go in.
He's always been a superb athlete and I guess if you keep putting the ball on his bonce it will go in eventually.
He's certainly improved as he's got a fair few goals, but I'm not convinced he would be the answer for us, our crossing is poor and without that I think he would still struggle.
OK boss...if you say so. Lots of good goals there and plenty to get excited about in my opinion.
Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:17 pm
Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:26 pm
Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:31 pm
SwampCCFC wrote:JonCCFC wrote:Rudy was crap for us at the end of the day. He's found his form at Blackburn and good for him.
thats the truth, he wasn't really up to standard in his time here and has improved massively at blackburn.
anyone can look wise in hindsight.
Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:40 pm
Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:53 pm
JonCCFC wrote:Rudy was crap for us at the end of the day. He's found his form at Blackburn and good for him.
Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:56 pm
Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:52 pm
Lawnmower wrote:moonboots wrote:Lawnmower wrote:moonboots wrote:Lawnmower wrote:In fairness over this Rudy was shocking when he first came, his trapping, positioning, heading, shooting and passing were all shite.
However he was quick, tall and had a hell of a leap.
Wilkinson used to spend hours teaching him the basics.
I went to a 'training day'at the vale and he was working one-on-one with him teaching him how to trap a ball and pass it back in 2 touches. It was a game and 'Wilko' beat him easily, however Gestede persevered and seemed to have the right attitude.
Toward the end of his spell he did seem to get better, he had a good game in the promotion sealing stuffing of Forest before the end of the season, but I think he'd been here 3 years by then and with promotion coming up it seemed obvious that having not really done enough to warrant a regular place in the Championship , and also not being a kid anymore either (think he was 25 by then ?) he would be better off elsewhere.
I don't think many could see into the future that he'd be scoring so many goals. He'd missed some sitters for us and really didn't look as if he had it (remember him missing that header by miles and it hitting him in the back !).
I also remember him coming on as sub in his last season in a game we were hanging on and he was like a headless chicken. Running the opposite way to where clearances would be going and failing to close down his man. As a result we were put under severe pressure.
I always though he'd make a good long-jumper but never a footballer. I'm still not convinced now, form the limited amount of what I've seen of him at Blackburn most of his goals have been easy with others doing the skillful bits.
Anyway , good luck to him, always polite and friendly to the fans and if he moves on then no good us looking back.
Be nice if we had a sell-on clause, but I'd doubt anyone had the foresight to put one in.
Bit harsh on Rudy. Some nice finishing with head and feet. Scoring one goal every two games. Would have been ideal for us now.![]()
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oaypyc21JXs
Cheers for that, but nothing too exciting there. Mainly point blank headers- apart from the first where I think he was shocked to see it go in.
He's always been a superb athlete and I guess if you keep putting the ball on his bonce it will go in eventually.
He's certainly improved as he's got a fair few goals, but I'm not convinced he would be the answer for us, our crossing is poor and without that I think he would still struggle.
OK boss...if you say so. Lots of good goals there and plenty to get excited about in my opinion.
All only opinions
Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:27 pm
Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:00 am
RFMH wrote:As a lone striker he was terrible, but with a strike partner he had ability. He needed support to get the best out of him. Good luck to the guy, he's earnt it. Although it's a lot of money for one years decent form.
Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:14 am
stickywicket wrote:and signed a pig in a pork
Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:58 am
Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:06 am
Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:48 am
Barry Chuckle wrote:He was utter garbage when he was with us.
Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:21 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:He was utter garbage when he was with us.