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' How Russell Slades squad of players looks now '

Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:08 am

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Re: ' How Russell Slades squad of players looks now '

Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:11 pm

Maybe not greatest performance Annis but at least wasn't tale of 2 half's as in past games? Couple more in may see what Slade is about! :bluescarf: :thumbup:

Re: ' How Russell Slades squad of players looks now '

Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:14 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Maybe not greatest performance Annis but at least wasn't tale of 2 half's as in past games? Couple more in may see what Slade is about! :bluescarf: :thumbup:


Allan, Totally agree on that and us fans were the 12th man yesterday :thumbright: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

But I still believe a lot of work still to be done :thumbright:

Re: ' How Russell Slades squad of players looks now '

Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:44 pm

Annis,

For me there's considerable disappointment. We've had loads of issues in the past few years to contend with but I think the overriding consideration is the quality of the entertainment we serve up, and right now it's at rock bottom. This defo effects fans in the stadium, even testerday. At the start the atmosphere was great but I noticed a huge difference after 20 minutes when the football wasn't so great. We had periods of quiet and a bit of moaning again.

Both Slades new players showed some promise but for me Fabio and Guerra are better and with much broader pedigrees (Man U, Champions League Final, equal number goals scored as Bale last season in Spain).

Why though buy players in positions that we already had reasonably well covered. Left back in particular was a strange one in my opinion. Fabio was our best and most consistent player before Slade arrived. He bombed forward which we all thought was great and he was quick enough to tackle back. Some on the forum mistakenly view his very rare errors as bad defending but when your full backs are encouraged to attack you'd expect your centre backs or wide midfield players to offer some cover. Ours didn't and probably still won't if Mallone ventures forward, in fact I spotted one such incident in the second half yesterday.

There's a bit of a theme building and it looks to me like Slade is intent on clearing out those players who are connected heavily with Ole and more importantly those skillful players that would undoubtedly have supported the style of football that Ole was working towards. I'd even go as far as to say Slade is uncomfortable with all our foreign players. I certainly don't mean to suggest any form of racism, I know Slade is well above that kind of stupidity, but I do think he prefers basic players who he knows he can communicate with and who will follow the pattern of play he prefers.

I think this is the wrong approach and, despite new players looking useful on their debuts, will eventually lead to us dropping more points and playing less attractive football.

Re: ' How Russell Slades squad of players looks now '

Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:01 pm

the pattern / connection between the players to be sold / replaced is there high wages not who signed them
imo we should keep on replacing ALL /ANY of our players if we can replace them with cheaper options
again imo if we hadn't got our blue back this thread would not of been made as the quality on the pitch would NOT of been the overriding issue then would it :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: ' How Russell Slades squad of players looks now '

Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:31 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:the pattern / connection between the players to be sold / replaced is there high wages not who signed them
imo we should keep on replacing ALL /ANY of our players if we can replace them with cheaper options
again imo if we hadn't got our blue back this thread would not of been made as the quality on the pitch would NOT of been the overriding issue then would it :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:



The quality on the pitch has always been my priority and I've said many times that I'd swap good football for a shirt colour.

People keep saying we need to save money on wages but I don't think for one minute that's why we're selling these players.

First of all how do you know who's paid what? Most of that is only guesswork. Don't try telling us that Daelhi, Guerra, Eikrem etc are earning more than Jones, Marshall or Whitts.

Secondly why would we need to save money on the clubs prime assets. We have a billionaire owner. We can save loads of money in other areas and I doubt Tan sees players as a waste of money. He won't get the club back in the Premier League, which is where the biggest profits are by selling our better players. I don't believe Tan is making all these calls because he's just too savvy to condemn us to the Championship or even worse just to save a few bob.

Re: ' How Russell Slades squad of players looks now '

Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:38 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:the pattern / connection between the players to be sold / replaced is there high wages not who signed them
imo we should keep on replacing ALL /ANY of our players if we can replace them with cheaper options
again imo if we hadn't got our blue back this thread would not of been made as the quality on the pitch would NOT of been the overriding issue then would it :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Tend to agree with replacing the high earners if we can not because of money reasons it's more that they haven't performed enough to deserve their wage and would rather a player who gives 100% week in week out than a lazy talent who is outstanding one game then goes missing for 3.

Looking at that squad seems bizarre as on paper it still looks great especially when you add dickachoi into midfield mix. The reality is a lot of those players are overrated or just haven't performed for either ole or Slade.

Defence looks fine with or without fabio.

Midfield seems short of numbers especially in the middle and we have really missed having dickachoi as an option. They need to strengthen here.

Attack looks great on paper but in reality not so. Jones can be great but still seems more of an impact sub. Let fondre hasn't performed and the least said about macheda the better. Maynard didn't look great at start of season and if he can't get a game now with the forwards struggling must be awful in training. I would personally like to see Joe mason given a go when fit probably with ravell on his showing yesterday as it looks like we will be 4-4-2 pretty much every game. Mason can play in the hole and link play like a rooney type and is a good finisher. I just think his all round game may be better than le fondre who is just a finisher really and all career has seemed suited to the bench. Ravell seems to be a good worker and one lots of headers so again I would leave kenwyne as an impact sub for last 30.

Re: ' How Russell Slades squad of players looks now '

Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:12 pm

Norman146 wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:the pattern / connection between the players to be sold / replaced is there high wages not who signed them
imo we should keep on replacing ALL /ANY of our players if we can replace them with cheaper options
again imo if we hadn't got our blue back this thread would not of been made as the quality on the pitch would NOT of been the overriding issue then would it :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Tend to agree with replacing the high earners if we can not because of money reasons it's more that they haven't performed enough to deserve their wage and would rather a player who gives 100% week in week out than a lazy talent who is outstanding one game then goes missing for 3.

Looking at that squad seems bizarre as on paper it still looks great especially when you add dickachoi into midfield mix. The reality is a lot of those players are overrated or just haven't performed for either ole or Slade.

Defence looks fine with or without fabio.

Midfield seems short of numbers especially in the middle and we have really missed having dickachoi as an option. They need to strengthen here.

Attack looks great on paper but in reality not so. Jones can be great but still seems more of an impact sub. Let fondre hasn't performed and the least said about macheda the better. Maynard didn't look great at start of season and if he can't get a game now with the forwards struggling must be awful in training. I would personally like to see Joe mason given a go when fit probably with ravell on his showing yesterday as it looks like we will be 4-4-2 pretty much every game. Mason can play in the hole and link play like a rooney type and is a good finisher. I just think his all round game may be better than le fondre who is just a finisher really and all career has seemed suited to the bench. Ravell seems to be a good worker and one lots of headers so again I would leave kenwyne as an impact sub for last 30.


I agree with lots of your comments but not about the reason for getting rid of players. I don't think it's to save money for the reasons given in my previous post but I can't agree its the players who aren't putting in a shift that are being sold. Fact is under Slade most of them have had very limited game time to show what they're worth.

If we are getting rid of players who don't give 100% then surely in most people's opinion Jones would be first out of the door.

Re: ' How Russell Slades squad of players looks now '

Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:29 pm

Skewett wrote:
Norman146 wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:the pattern / connection between the players to be sold / replaced is there high wages not who signed them
imo we should keep on replacing ALL /ANY of our players if we can replace them with cheaper options
again imo if we hadn't got our blue back this thread would not of been made as the quality on the pitch would NOT of been the overriding issue then would it :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Tend to agree with replacing the high earners if we can not because of money reasons it's more that they haven't performed enough to deserve their wage and would rather a player who gives 100% week in week out than a lazy talent who is outstanding one game then goes missing for 3.

Looking at that squad seems bizarre as on paper it still looks great especially when you add dickachoi into midfield mix. The reality is a lot of those players are overrated or just haven't performed for either ole or Slade.

Defence looks fine with or without fabio.

Midfield seems short of numbers especially in the middle and we have really missed having dickachoi as an option. They need to strengthen here.

Attack looks great on paper but in reality not so. Jones can be great but still seems more of an impact sub. Let fondre hasn't performed and the least said about macheda the better. Maynard didn't look great at start of season and if he can't get a game now with the forwards struggling must be awful in training. I would personally like to see Joe mason given a go when fit probably with ravell on his showing yesterday as it looks like we will be 4-4-2 pretty much every game. Mason can play in the hole and link play like a rooney type and is a good finisher. I just think his all round game may be better than le fondre who is just a finisher really and all career has seemed suited to the bench. Ravell seems to be a good worker and one lots of headers so again I would leave kenwyne as an impact sub for last 30.


I agree with lots of your comments but not about the reason for getting rid of players. I don't think it's to save money for the reasons given in my previous post but I can't agree its the players who aren't putting in a shift that are being sold. Fact is under Slade most of them have had very limited game time to show what they're worth.

If we are getting rid of players who don't give 100% then surely in most people's opinion Jones would be first out of the door.



If someone came in for Jones then they should sell. I agree that he is the typical one performance in 3 player and although I like him he is a luxury.

I can see your point about some players not getting a chance the likes of guerra,burgersmaller but I have sort of written these off as not city players as they aren't going to play. I was thinking more of the fabio, macheda, Kim type who have played and not really cut it consistently. If they are on big wages then I am sure they can be replaced with cheaper alternatives that can do the same job. Not that fabio didn't give 100% mind.