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Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:17 pm

This ain't an up date so calm down but heard this might be what is on offer tomorrow. The Agenda is the Blue then the Badge then the Finances. But what I understand he could be saying using very clever words and that is if we choose Blue then the Fans will have to make the Club self sufficient. If we keep the red then he will finance us. We will have to choose. Now if this is the case then it will be good to be prepared for that. For me I will take the Blue and we must not be bullied or blackmailed into excepting the red which we will end up regretting.

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:19 pm

Exactly what i expected, knew the clause would be that!

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:25 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:This ain't an up date so calm down but heard this might be what is on offer tomorrow. The Agenda is the Blue then the Badge then the Finances. But what I understand he could be saying using very clever words and that is if we choose Blue then the Fans will have to make the Club self sufficient. If we keep the red then he will finance us. We will have to choose. Now if this is the case then it will be good to be prepared for that. For me I will take the Blue and we must not be bullied or blackmailed into excepting the red which we will end up regretting.



Looks like he is already go down that route, so take advantage and change back blue :bluescarf: :ayatollah:

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:27 pm

Get blue back no matter what :bluescarf:

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:28 pm

If this is the case and it would make sense then are you worried that the 40 or the majority will panic to Tans blackmail and cave in again ? I would say in the end then he would have to sell because he would end up loosing out big time.

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:30 pm

It's already a sticky, you read Terry Phillips peace aswell :lol:

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:32 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:This ain't an up date so calm down but heard this might be what is on offer tomorrow. The Agenda is the Blue then the Badge then the Finances. But what I understand he could be saying using very clever words and that is if we choose Blue then the Fans will have to make the Club self sufficient. If we keep the red then he will finance us. We will have to choose. Now if this is the case then it will be good to be prepared for that. For me I will take the Blue and we must not be bullied or blackmailed into excepting the red which we will end up regretting.

If he says that then he's bluffing as he has money put in this time around so if we choose blue then he would not just stop investing as he would lose money , when the rebrand happened the 1st time he hadn't invested at the time so I would call his bluff and choose blue

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:32 pm

JAWS wrote:It's already a sticky, you read Terry Phillips peace aswell :lol:

No is that what he is saying as well Chief ?

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:42 pm

I've been dreaming about this club becoming self sufficient for years!!!!! Need a break from the debt and winding up orders, at the same time a united support for whatever team that are playing in blue! A mix of skillful youth and experienced workhorses. Come on the Bluebirds

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:51 pm

There will be some sort of blackmail , Remember when Rick Wright told us we had to buy Phil Stant back in the form of S/ticket sales . He was still our player at the time :?

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:55 pm

To the 40 tomorrow don't you dare sell us out. I know the ones that defo won't. Annis,Carl, Jon Candy, Sian, but the ones that sold us out last time please don't let us down again.

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:59 pm

I don't really understand this. How are we to become self sufficient with 180 million debt and reportedly 1million outgoings a month in bills. I just don't really understand how it's possible?

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:04 pm

nubbsy wrote:I don't really understand this. How are we to become self sufficient with 180 million debt and reportedly 1million outgoings a month in bills. I just don't really understand how it's possible?

Its Tans debt and he owns the Club. I suppose he will have to sit on the debt and we will have to make sure we get good crowds to keep us going.

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:15 pm

Can't we have a vote?

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:26 pm

If this is the case then the 40 shouldn't be speaking for the rest of us. I knew it would be another version of red or dead as I said on facebook Nukes

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:27 pm

A vote makes sense Chief if this is correct. But even if it's a fifty fifty call then it needs to be in there heads this could happen.

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:31 pm

Military Junta wrote:If this is the case then the 40 shouldn't be speaking for the rest of us. I knew it would be another version of red or dead as I said on facebook Nukes



I have to agree with this....

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:31 pm

If that is the deal on the table then it should not be down to the 40 fans present to make that decision instead they should hold a vote amongst ALL Season Ticket Holders.

Personally i vote back to Blue and if that means lack of investment and possible relegation then so be it let's live within our means get young players in who are hungry and will play for the Badge with the fans united we can become strong again. :bluescarf:

You just have to look at Bournemouth and Brentford this season to see what can be achieved with young players with the right work ethic. let's get our Club back but that decision should be down to the vote of each and every fan :old: :ayatollah: :bluescarf:

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:33 pm

Poll out !!
What will be will be :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:34 pm

Military Junta wrote:If this is the case then the 40 shouldn't be speaking for the rest of us. I knew it would be another version of red or dead as I said on facebook Nukes


dont think the people at meeting will choose that option ? as that was reason for this mess in 1st place, should be saying we will have blue back regardless! :thumbup:

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:07 am

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=152739 :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:23 am

That's fine by me, has to be back to blue .. I believe he will still put money in, not as much, but he will have to if he ever wants his money back, he"ll never sell the club unless we are in the prem and we simply wouldn't get there without some funding

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:05 am

Nuclearblue wrote:This ain't an up date so calm down but heard this might be what is on offer tomorrow. The Agenda is the Blue then the Badge then the Finances. But what I understand he could be saying using very clever words and that is if we choose Blue then the Fans will have to make the Club self sufficient. If we keep the red then he will finance us. We will have to choose. Now if this is the case then it will be good to be prepared for that. For me I will take the Blue and we must not be bullied or blackmailed into excepting the red which we will end up regretting.

and a chosen 40 are deciding ....a joke

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:26 am

Who on earth said the 40 are going to vote on our future, absolutely ridiculous, too many shit stirrers on here.

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:26 am

Just another "Red or Dead" doomsday threat if you ask me Nukes and those that attend should take NO notice of it. Why? Because FFP rules are now in place so VT has to run this club, in financial terms, within the requirements of those rules. Clubs like Burnley and Bournemouth have shown you can be competitive, and as with Burnley, get promoted to the PL without spending money like a drunken sailor on shore leave.

The 40 that are attending this evening represent less than 1% of the current ST holders at the club and therefore, in my opinion, have absolutely no right to agree to anything. Thier job is to listen and tell VT, through his yes men, that it's blue or nothing and running the finances of the club within Football League rules are down to them. So if VT wants PL football, and the money that goes with it anytime soon, they need to make a better fist of it than they have over the last 18 months.

Right now I believe the club needs it's fans MORE than we need VT and his money, so my message to the fans attending is stay strong and don't listen to anythreats.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:31 am

Ref wrote:Who on earth said the 40 are going to vote on our future, absolutely ridiculous, too many shit stirrers on here.

explain....as for me i dont see anything that suggests that i will have a say....do you remember the last meeting when certain people thought the best thing was to be red....not shit stirring just concerned ..

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:37 am

180 million pound debt and be self sufficient....

If we chose blue and red stripes could we be self sufficient every other day?
This is getting more ridiculous by the hour.

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:02 am

The fans can only make the club self sufficient if they are given control of finances at the club. That will never happen. Seems like the meeting is going to be a pointless exercise. I can't see Tan handing the club over to a group of fans and I can't see how a group of fans could make plans to get the club to break even each year while paying £100m back to Tan at 7% interest per year.

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:14 am

Nuclearblue wrote:
nubbsy wrote:I don't really understand this. How are we to become self sufficient with 180 million debt and reportedly 1million outgoings a month in bills. I just don't really understand how it's possible?

Its Tans debt and he owns the Club. I suppose he will have to sit on the debt and we will have to make sure we get good crowds to keep us going.



Yeah I get what your saying but we'd still need some form of investment. Ticket sales wouldn't keep us afloat we'd be gathering debt by the month

Re: Tomorrow's meeting posability

Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:17 am

tell him to stick his money up his arse :bluescarf:
we all said better blue in division 2 and the prem wasn't all that anyway :D